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As of now, 78% of those who are right leaning are pro capital punishment. While only 45% of those left leaning are anti capital punishment.
I think that's very interesting.
I think that's very interesting.
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The trouble with your analysis is that there wasn't one made by you.I'm ambivalent and right-leaning. The reason is because too many people are railroaded in by two collaborating witnesses and their supporters who may have committed the crime themselves. In Illinois, there is a "Project Innocence" that found that 11 prisoners on death row in Illinois did not commit the crimes for which they were sentenced to death. It caused a governor to suspend the death penalty in his state until he fulfilled his term.
When I first learned of the Innocence Project, I became anti-death penalty, but as time wore on, I saw that there are some who should never, never be allowed to see daylight again. This would happen in the event of a natural catastrophe such as a flood or earthquake on prison grounds. The evacuation could result in the escape of a serial killer who would just continue his crime. Maybe the public would be served if this type of criminal was disabled from hurting others for good.
The Innocence Project
The problem with your hypothetical is that it hasn't happened - whereas hundreds of innocent people have been executed unjustly.
The odds of someone escaping a SuperMax facility are lower than the odds of a lethal injection not working.
Here's one who escaped while being transported.
Here are 450 who escaped through a tunnel. 100 of them were Taliban commanders
4,000 prisoners escaped in Haiti in the hurricane/tsunami that hit there in 2010
A Mass Murderer Escapes from Jail
In the Afghanistan break, a number of those people may have made it to this country, where they would likely go underground as part of a cell of our nation's most dangerous enemies.
Haiti is not that far from our country either.
The mass murderer who escaped in Srikakulam likely would have left his country and gone someplace else, too.
There goes your theory that nothing can go wrong that could bring a mass murderer into the population of our nation.
Even so, theDoctorsIn, I respect your opinion. I'm still maintaining my ambivalent attitude because I just don't trust the system, and I don't trust the criminally incarcerated mass murderers who eluded authorities sometimes for 3 or 4 decades. Their lives are built around elusive maneuvers including moving every 3 or 4 hours, days, or months, never more than a year anywhere, disappearing as quietly as the day they arrived in someone's community, doing who know how many repeat crimes.
Yes sir, no excuses sir.The trouble with your analysis is that there wasn't one made by you.The problem with your hypothetical is that it hasn't happened - whereas hundreds of innocent people have been executed unjustly.
The odds of someone escaping a SuperMax facility are lower than the odds of a lethal injection not working.
Here's one who escaped while being transported.
Here are 450 who escaped through a tunnel. 100 of them were Taliban commanders
4,000 prisoners escaped in Haiti in the hurricane/tsunami that hit there in 2010
A Mass Murderer Escapes from Jail
In the Afghanistan break, a number of those people may have made it to this country, where they would likely go underground as part of a cell of our nation's most dangerous enemies.
Haiti is not that far from our country either.
The mass murderer who escaped in Srikakulam likely would have left his country and gone someplace else, too.
There goes your theory that nothing can go wrong that could bring a mass murderer into the population of our nation.
Even so, theDoctorsIn, I respect your opinion. I'm still maintaining my ambivalent attitude because I just don't trust the system, and I don't trust the criminally incarcerated mass murderers who eluded authorities sometimes for 3 or 4 decades. Their lives are built around elusive maneuvers including moving every 3 or 4 hours, days, or months, never more than a year anywhere, disappearing as quietly as the day they arrived in someone's community, doing who know how many repeat crimes.
WADR, Becki, you asked for facts to support Doc's claim but you responded with supposition and links to stories that have nothing to do with SuperMax facilities.
I have a feeling I'm going to stay a small minority as an anti-capital punishment conservative.
One of the leading reasons I am against capital punishment is because it is not administrated fairly. People who can afford good lawyers have so much better chance at getting out of it than poor people.
Since justice can't be blind, and since it does appear that people have been condemned to death who were innocent, I have slowly abandoned the capital punishment position I was raised to believe in.
I'm for the death penalty in the case of heinous crimes.
But the bar should be raised from reasonable doubt to beyond all doubt in the sentencing stage.
I'm ambivalent and right-leaning. The reason is because too many people are railroaded in by two collaborating witnesses and their supporters who may have committed the crime themselves. In Illinois, there is a "Project Innocence" that found that 11 prisoners on death row in Illinois did not commit the crimes for which they were sentenced to death. It caused a governor to suspend the death penalty in his state until he fulfilled his term.Wondering how much death penalty opinions align with general party affiliation.
My first poll. Hope this works.
Good poll. I am tied ( and one-half opposite ) with "right-leaning anti-capital punishment." Whoops, just checked again and am in the lead...
When I first learned of the Innocence Project, I became anti-death penalty, but as time wore on, I saw that there are some who should never, never be allowed to see daylight again. This would happen in the event of a natural catastrophe such as a flood or earthquake on prison grounds. The evacuation could result in the escape of a serial killer who would just continue his crime. Maybe the public would be served if this type of criminal was disabled from hurting others for good.
The Innocence Project
I'm ambivalent and right-leaning. The reason is because too many people are railroaded in by two collaborating witnesses and their supporters who may have committed the crime themselves. In Illinois, there is a "Project Innocence" that found that 11 prisoners on death row in Illinois did not commit the crimes for which they were sentenced to death. It caused a governor to suspend the death penalty in his state until he fulfilled his term.Good poll. I am tied ( and one-half opposite ) with "right-leaning anti-capital punishment." Whoops, just checked again and am in the lead...
When I first learned of the Innocence Project, I became anti-death penalty, but as time wore on, I saw that there are some who should never, never be allowed to see daylight again. This would happen in the event of a natural catastrophe such as a flood or earthquake on prison grounds. The evacuation could result in the escape of a serial killer who would just continue his crime. Maybe the public would be served if this type of criminal was disabled from hurting others for good.
The Innocence Project
The problem with the "innocence project" in IL is that they sometimes get guilty people out of prison.
For instance, one of the fine citizens they got off death row was a man named Anthony Porter. They got another guy to cop to the crime. But now that guy is recanting his confession and other witnesses have come forward to say Porter was the guy.
Was a Convicted Murderer Wrongfully Released from Death Row? - ABC News
I'm ambivalent and right-leaning. The reason is because too many people are railroaded in by two collaborating witnesses and their supporters who may have committed the crime themselves. In Illinois, there is a "Project Innocence" that found that 11 prisoners on death row in Illinois did not commit the crimes for which they were sentenced to death. It caused a governor to suspend the death penalty in his state until he fulfilled his term.
When I first learned of the Innocence Project, I became anti-death penalty, but as time wore on, I saw that there are some who should never, never be allowed to see daylight again. This would happen in the event of a natural catastrophe such as a flood or earthquake on prison grounds. The evacuation could result in the escape of a serial killer who would just continue his crime. Maybe the public would be served if this type of criminal was disabled from hurting others for good.
The Innocence Project
The problem with the "innocence project" in IL is that they sometimes get guilty people out of prison.
For instance, one of the fine citizens they got off death row was a man named Anthony Porter. They got another guy to cop to the crime. But now that guy is recanting his confession and other witnesses have come forward to say Porter was the guy.
Was a Convicted Murderer Wrongfully Released from Death Row? - ABC News
It is more dangerous that even a guilty person should be punished without the forms of law than that he should escape.
Thomas Jefferson
The problem with the "innocence project" in IL is that they sometimes get guilty people out of prison.
For instance, one of the fine citizens they got off death row was a man named Anthony Porter. They got another guy to cop to the crime. But now that guy is recanting his confession and other witnesses have come forward to say Porter was the guy.
Was a Convicted Murderer Wrongfully Released from Death Row? - ABC News
It is more dangerous that even a guilty person should be punished without the forms of law than that he should escape.
Thomas Jefferson
and if Porter should kill someone else, you are good with that?
Not seeing what that has to do with my point. My point is that usually these supposed "innocent" people aren't innocent at all. They just wear down the system until it spits them out.
And usually, they are serial life long dirtbags who go on to offend again, anyway. A couple of the folks Governor Ryan let out are already back in prison.
Works for me.
You usually know who the career criminals are going to be by the time they're five, anyway.