Death at Burger King Ruled a Homicide

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    I realize we don't have all the details, but based on the O.P. - a homicide? Really? The other guy swung first.

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    I've heard some "whoppers" in my time but this takes the cake.
     
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    Depends on State law. In NC there is no right to self defense. A DA can charge a person even if they kill someone in self defense.

    Further by finding it a homicide that does not mean the employee will be charged with murder. He can be charged with lesser degrees of taking another life. Depends on the DA and the State law.
     
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    Thanks Jose. That was cool.
     
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    Must have been one helluva punch to kill the guy.
     
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    The death was a result of one person killing another. The reason or justification or lack thereof doesn't matter, that is the definition of "homicide".

    Whether or not it's criminal homicide ("murder") is a different question and the decision whether to pursue charges will lie with the DA's office. But of the available classifications, blunt force trauma to the head under these circumstances certainly isn't natural causes, it's not an accident and it's not a suicide.

    If not "homicide", how would you have the ME categorize the death for statistical and vital records purposes?
     
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    Coroners/Medical Examiners rule a death a homicide.

    It's up to the D.A. to decide whether to call it murder or manslaughter and pursue charges.


    At least that's how it works in my state. By definition, this is a homicide

    S: (n) homicide (the killing of a human being by another human being)

    WordNet Search - 3.0
     
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    Exactly, people need to understand the difference between a medical determination and criminal charges in cases like this.

    Side note, my wife says she would charge the 20 y/o with negligent homicide based on circumstances. Common sense dictates that a 20 y/o probably could have chosen other tactics to defend himself against a 67 y/o man besides throwing a haymaker; and in AR you only have a right to defend yourself if you feel your life was in danger.
     
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