Dear NRA, There Is A Scientific Consensus On Guns And Safety. And You Won't Like It.

[Derideo_Te]

a gun in the home increases the risk that a woman living in the home will be a victim of homicide (72% agree, 11% disagree) and that

a gun in the home makes it a more dangerous place to be (64%) rather than a safer place (5%). There is consensus that

guns are not used in self-defense far more often than they are used in crime (73% vs. 8%) and that the change to

more permissive gun carrying laws has not reduced crime rates (62% vs. 9%).

Finally, there is consensus that strong gun laws reduce homicide (71% vs. 12%).

Facts that the gun fetishists won't like one iota so I am predicting that there will be a great deal of whining once this thread comes to their attention.

Had a gun in the home when a rapist thought he would do something back in my early twenties. I have never seen a person move like he did when it finally got to the point it would be him and not me. Don't get a gun if you are afraid of them or do not know how or when to use it. It is really simple.

Someone else who completely missed the entire point of the OP!

More like someone tired of hearing all the bullshit propaganda that goes on about actually having or possessing a gun for self defense against intruders.

7 out of 10 scientists don't accept the BS propaganda that is constantly being spewed by the gun fetishists.

Opinion polls are not science.

No one was expecting you to comprehend the OP and make a worthy post on the topic so once again you have lived down to my low expectations of you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

A consensus on whether strong gun laws reduce homicide?
Why not just show the proof? You know, instead of asking for their opinions?
You know, the proof that you and your ilk constantly lie about.

Try reading the OP.

These are scientists who study this topic so they already know the data on which they are basing their professional positions.

These are scientists who study this topic

Social scientists. It's not like they're discovering quasars or measuring temperatures.

they already know the data

This poll was about their opinion, no data to be seen.

Guns are not quasars or temperatures but they are a subject for scientists to study.

Too bad you don't get to decide what scientists are allowed to study but given that gun fetishists have an authoritarian mindset I am sure you would like to deny them their freedom to study guns.

Guns are not quasars or temperatures but they are a subject for scientists to study.

And either strong gun laws reduce murder rates or they don't. So why waste time to poll opinions?
Show the facts. Start with Chicago and DC.

I am sure you would like to deny them their freedom to study guns.

I'm sure that you'd like to jail those that disagree with your scientists, or is that only the case with "global warming".

There are no "strong gun laws" in this nation because rabid gun fetishists like yourself squeal like schoolgirls any time someone dares to suggest even reasonable measures like universal background checks.

Guns were, until very recently, illegal in both Chicago and DC.
Hopefully your "scientists" know more about the issue than you.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Try reading the OP.

These are scientists who study this topic so they already know the data on which they are basing their professional positions.

These are scientists who study this topic

Social scientists. It's not like they're discovering quasars or measuring temperatures.

they already know the data

This poll was about their opinion, no data to be seen.

Guns are not quasars or temperatures but they are a subject for scientists to study.

Too bad you don't get to decide what scientists are allowed to study but given that gun fetishists have an authoritarian mindset I am sure you would like to deny them their freedom to study guns.

Guns are not quasars or temperatures but they are a subject for scientists to study.

And either strong gun laws reduce murder rates or they don't. So why waste time to poll opinions?
Show the facts. Start with Chicago and DC.

I am sure you would like to deny them their freedom to study guns.

I'm sure that you'd like to jail those that disagree with your scientists, or is that only the case with "global warming".

There are no "strong gun laws" in this nation because rabid gun fetishists like yourself squeal like schoolgirls any time someone dares to suggest even reasonable measures like universal background checks.

Guns were, until very recently, illegal in both Chicago and DC.
Hopefully your "scientists" know more about the issue than you.

You have no need to convince me any further of your abject gun fetishist denial of the reality that your paranoia has inflicted on this nation as documented by the OP.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

These are scientists who study this topic

Social scientists. It's not like they're discovering quasars or measuring temperatures.

they already know the data

This poll was about their opinion, no data to be seen.

Guns are not quasars or temperatures but they are a subject for scientists to study.

Too bad you don't get to decide what scientists are allowed to study but given that gun fetishists have an authoritarian mindset I am sure you would like to deny them their freedom to study guns.

Guns are not quasars or temperatures but they are a subject for scientists to study.

And either strong gun laws reduce murder rates or they don't. So why waste time to poll opinions?
Show the facts. Start with Chicago and DC.

I am sure you would like to deny them their freedom to study guns.

I'm sure that you'd like to jail those that disagree with your scientists, or is that only the case with "global warming".

There are no "strong gun laws" in this nation because rabid gun fetishists like yourself squeal like schoolgirls any time someone dares to suggest even reasonable measures like universal background checks.

Guns were, until very recently, illegal in both Chicago and DC.
Hopefully your "scientists" know more about the issue than you.

You have no need to convince me any further of your abject gun fetishist denial of the reality that your paranoia has inflicted on this nation as documented by the OP.

denial of the reality

Chicago and DC had very strict gun laws. Did they reduce their murder rates?
Let me know if you ever return to reality. LOL!

 

[Correll]

Had a gun in the home when a rapist thought he would do something back in my early twenties. I have never seen a person move like he did when it finally got to the point it would be him and not me. Don't get a gun if you are afraid of them or do not know how or when to use it. It is really simple.

Someone else who completely missed the entire point of the OP!

More like someone tired of hearing all the bullshit propaganda that goes on about actually having or possessing a gun for self defense against intruders.

7 out of 10 scientists don't accept the BS propaganda that is constantly being spewed by the gun fetishists.

Opinion polls are not science.

No one was expecting you to comprehend the OP and make a worthy post on the topic so once again you have lived down to my low expectations of you.

Opinion polls are not science. A poll showing a consensus is not science.

It is not being anti-science to disagree with an opinion poll.

It is not being PRO-SCIENCE to cite an opinion poll as proof.

THat is not how science works.

 

[Derideo_Te]

Someone else who completely missed the entire point of the OP!

More like someone tired of hearing all the bullshit propaganda that goes on about actually having or possessing a gun for self defense against intruders.

7 out of 10 scientists don't accept the BS propaganda that is constantly being spewed by the gun fetishists.

Opinion polls are not science.

No one was expecting you to comprehend the OP and make a worthy post on the topic so once again you have lived down to my low expectations of you.

Opinion polls are not science. A poll showing a consensus is not science.

It is not being anti-science to disagree with an opinion poll.

It is not being PRO-SCIENCE to cite an opinion poll as proof.

THat is not how science works.

Let me remind you again that you don't need to convince me any further that you lack the basic cognitive skills necessary to understand the OP topic.

 

[Correll]

More like someone tired of hearing all the bullshit propaganda that goes on about actually having or possessing a gun for self defense against intruders.

7 out of 10 scientists don't accept the BS propaganda that is constantly being spewed by the gun fetishists.

Opinion polls are not science.

No one was expecting you to comprehend the OP and make a worthy post on the topic so once again you have lived down to my low expectations of you.

Opinion polls are not science. A poll showing a consensus is not science.

It is not being anti-science to disagree with an opinion poll.

It is not being PRO-SCIENCE to cite an opinion poll as proof.

THat is not how science works.

Let me remind you again that you don't need to convince me any further that you lack the basic cognitive skills necessary to understand the OP topic.

And opinion polls are still not science.

It is not being anti-science to disagree with an opinion poll.

It is not pro-science to cite an opinion poll as though it proof.

That is still not how science works.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

How do you feel about the IQ gap?

Pro-science or anti?

The IQ gap on usmb?

It's purely bs. Everyone here is a genius as evidenced by their words

 

[Correll]

How do you feel about the IQ gap?

Pro-science or anti?

The IQ gap on usmb?

It's purely bs. Everyone here is a genius as evidenced by their words

Refusing to answer? Science isn't afraid of social taboos.

 

[Two Thumbs]

the country with the lowest crime rate is Switzerland

they require all their citizens to be armed.

 

[Derideo_Te]

the country with the lowest crime rate is Switzerland

they require all their citizens to be armed.

They require all male citizens to belong to the military but typical dullard gun fetishist response.

 

[peach174]

No surprise since the anti gun crowds have been pushing their biased opinions on the people for the last 50 years or so.
They have gotten the people, especially women to actually be afraid of them.
It's good to see that Women are starting to wake up to that kind of mental manipulation and have started buying guns now.

 

[nat4900]

The NRA (and its many members need to realize that the association has become little more than a puppet for gun manufacturers who, in turn, are providing over 50% of the association's yearly budget.

 

[Correll]

the country with the lowest crime rate is Switzerland

they require all their citizens to be armed.

They require all male citizens to belong to the military but typical dullard gun fetishist response.

That doesn't really deny his point.

Being in the military doesn't make you a better person.

If guns are the problem, then Switzerland should have nearly the same crime and shooting problem(s) as the US.

But they don't.

 

[Two Thumbs]

the country with the lowest crime rate is Switzerland

they require all their citizens to be armed.

They require all male citizens to belong to the military but typical dullard gun fetishist response.

they are required to keep and maintain their weapons for life.

most guns and lowest crime rate plus military discipline


but lets not think about copying them, lets take away our rights b/c the government will protect us.

 

[Two Thumbs]

the country with the lowest crime rate is Switzerland

they require all their citizens to be armed.

They require all male citizens to belong to the military but typical dullard gun fetishist response.

That doesn't really deny his point.

Being in the military doesn't make you a better person.

If guns are the problem, then Switzerland should have nearly the same crime and shooting problem(s) as the US.

But they don't.

every house has at least 1 AR in it and the ammo to go batshit on a lot of people.

An armed society is a polite society

 

[Correll]

the country with the lowest crime rate is Switzerland

they require all their citizens to be armed.

They require all male citizens to belong to the military but typical dullard gun fetishist response.

That doesn't really deny his point.

Being in the military doesn't make you a better person.

If guns are the problem, then Switzerland should have nearly the same crime and shooting problem(s) as the US.

But they don't.

every house has at least 1 AR in it and the ammo to go batshit on a lot of people.

An armed society is a polite society

Well, maybe.

It certainly is strong evidence that guns aren't the problem.

 

[Two Thumbs]

the country with the lowest crime rate is Switzerland

they require all their citizens to be armed.

They require all male citizens to belong to the military but typical dullard gun fetishist response.

That doesn't really deny his point.

Being in the military doesn't make you a better person.

If guns are the problem, then Switzerland should have nearly the same crime and shooting problem(s) as the US.

But they don't.

every house has at least 1 AR in it and the ammo to go batshit on a lot of people.

An armed society is a polite society

Well, maybe.

It certainly is strong evidence that guns aren't the problem.

its the real world v scientific polls (opinions)

see, leftist love to quote scientist, feeling that they would never lie, for money or be wrong. And they ignore the real world results that don't confirm what the scientist told them.

the most armed society has the lowest crime rate and they have had it for a long time, but scientist tell them to get rid of guns, so they deny reality and go with theory.

like socialism. in theory it's a great idea, in reality it brings misery and pain, but leftist deny the reality and go with theory b/c a scientist said so.

 

[Derideo_Te]

the country with the lowest crime rate is Switzerland

they require all their citizens to be armed.

They require all male citizens to belong to the military but typical dullard gun fetishist response.

That doesn't really deny his point.

Being in the military doesn't make you a better person.

If guns are the problem, then Switzerland should have nearly the same crime and shooting problem(s) as the US.

But they don't.

Switzerland has a "well regulated militia" that has trained all of their gun owners on what it means to be a responsible gun owner.

Gun fetishists in this nation lack the same discipline.

There is a another significant difference between Switzerland and the USA. They are a social democracy with safety nets and universal healthcare plus they have a well regulated economy.

None of the above applies to the USA.

Those factors all play into crime and gun violence.

Which is what the majority of the scientists in the OP know and gun fetishists like you and your ignorant ilk don't.

 

[Derideo_Te]

the country with the lowest crime rate is Switzerland

they require all their citizens to be armed.

They require all male citizens to belong to the military but typical dullard gun fetishist response.

they are required to keep and maintain their weapons for life.

most guns and lowest crime rate plus military discipline


but lets not think about copying them, lets take away our rights b/c the government will protect us.

Non sequitur response that has nothing to do with the OP topic.

If this nation emulated the highly regulated social democracy that is Switzerland you would be screaming about "losing your freedoms" in every other area of your life.