DC Electoral College rights

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    What dishonest pukes we have for Congress critters. They KNOW that to give DC this right requires an amendment to the Constitution yet they keep trying to do it through an act of Congress.

    An actual Amendment WAS submitted for this very purpose and failed to get the needed support to be ratified.
     
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    And...?
     
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    List of amendments to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Unsuccessful attempts to amend the U.S. Constitution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The latest attempt included Congress granting some unspecified Red State an extra Vote while giving DC a vote in the Electoral College and a voting member of the House of Representatives.

    Completely illegal unless created via an Amendment.
     
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    Perfect example of why we have problems with over reaching Government, people that jst do not give a rats ass that the Government is operating illegally outside the power granted it by the Constitution.
     
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    so what is your point? People live in Washington DC, shouldn't they have representation?
     
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    Cause they're not a state so the Constitution doesnt give them that right. Of course in a nation founded on the mantra of "no taxation without representation" those who oppose such an Amendment (OMGZ 4n0ther bloo state ahhhh!!1one!!1!1) are a large lot of hypocrites.

    And the thread title seems misleading... D.C. already has voting rights in the electoral college as per the 23th Amendment, right? but not the voting rights in Congress.
     
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    Are you favoring not giving the people of the District of Columbia a right to vote for President?
     
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    If that is the aim, amend the constitution, remove the District of Columbia (the political/administrative district) from being a stand alone district and give it to Virginia or Maryland. They will then have the same representation as the citizens of the rest of the country. It would be an injustice to give such a small district, made up of politicians and their hangers on to make it equal to a state. With that in view one can see why adding it to VA or MD would give either of them too much power, and therein lies the problem.

    But as the OP implies, they should show a little respect for our first document and do the right thing; amend the Constitution.
     
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    We can vote for president. WE don't get an electoral college vote.

    Giving us one of those requires an amendment. That's his point - our congresscritters know this (or should know this) and they waste time each time they introduce it.
     
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    But Si, all this has a greater implication than the voting rights of citizens of the district. If they can write legislation to nullify the constitution without amending it, they will have openly set a precedent that will in effect nullify any part of the Constitution they desire in the future and thereby make a statement as to it’s certitude as a set of rules.

    The ability to do that, if not challenged and overturned, will then be a reflection on the Supreme Court, and it's willingness to accept laws passed willy-nilly over the certain rules laid out in the Constitution.
    Do we want that to come to pass?
     
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