Darrell Issa and his "investigation" shennigans.

[Oldstyle]

The lie keeps growing with each CON$ervative retelling!!!

You're right, Ed...it was a nightstick that Black Panthers used to intimidate voters not a bat. Does that make you feel better about Eric Holder declining to prosecute them?

No VOTERS were intimidated!!!!!

The two white GOP thugs, who went to the black voting district to intimidate the black voters with their camera, claimed they were intimidated by the respectful and gentlemanly black panthers who were standing outside the poling entrance minding their own business when the GOP goons approached THEM. BTW, the GOP thugs were allowed into the polling place even though it wasn't their voting district!!!

Respectful and gentlemanly? Standing outside a polling place brandishing a nightstick. That's really what you're going to go with, Ed?

 

[Oldstyle]

What's really amusing is that of the three posts I made in regards to Holder...THAT ONE is the one you chose to dispute and THAT was your rationale...that the Black Panthers were respectful and gentlemanly while brandishing a weapon outside a polling place? That's rather sad, Ed. You might as well have taken out a full page ad declaring that Holder is about as sleazy as they come and you can't defend him.

 

[Sallow]

You're right, Ed...it was a nightstick that Black Panthers used to intimidate voters not a bat. Does that make you feel better about Eric Holder declining to prosecute them?

No VOTERS were intimidated!!!!!

The two white GOP thugs, who went to the black voting district to intimidate the black voters with their camera, claimed they were intimidated by the respectful and gentlemanly black panthers who were standing outside the poling entrance minding their own business when the GOP goons approached THEM. BTW, the GOP thugs were allowed into the polling place even though it wasn't their voting district!!!

Respectful and gentlemanly? Standing outside a polling place brandishing a nightstick. That's really what you're going to go with, Ed?

What, exactly, are you going to bust them on?

 

[Oldstyle]

The lie keeps growing with each CON$ervative retelling!!!

You're right, Ed...it was a nightstick that Black Panthers used to intimidate voters not a bat. Does that make you feel better about Eric Holder declining to prosecute them?

This is another hilarious and ridiculous molehill about nothing. Again, it's also hypocrisy at it's height. Conservatives are using all sorts of tactics to suppress voting, most notably the voter id scam. They are changing what you can use to as ID to vote..then making it impossible for some people to get ID. That should be illegal. Additionally conservatives send out guy dressed like FBI agents to intimidate people at polls, all the time.

These guys were in a black neighborhood and really doing nothing. They didn't have bats, they had night sticks. And when challenged, they cooperated completely.

What's "hypocrisy at it's height" is people like you and Ed condoning behavior like what the Black Panthers displayed standing in front of that Philly polling station in "uniform" while brandishing a nightstick...while charging Conservatives with voter suppression simply because they want people who vote to have verifiable ID's.

Jimmy Carter supports national voter ID. Do you consider him to be part of the "voter id scam"?

 

[Sallow]

You're right, Ed...it was a nightstick that Black Panthers used to intimidate voters not a bat. Does that make you feel better about Eric Holder declining to prosecute them?

This is another hilarious and ridiculous molehill about nothing. Again, it's also hypocrisy at it's height. Conservatives are using all sorts of tactics to suppress voting, most notably the voter id scam. They are changing what you can use to as ID to vote..then making it impossible for some people to get ID. That should be illegal. Additionally conservatives send out guy dressed like FBI agents to intimidate people at polls, all the time.

These guys were in a black neighborhood and really doing nothing. They didn't have bats, they had night sticks. And when challenged, they cooperated completely.

What's "hypocrisy at it's height" is people like you and Ed condoning behavior like what the Black Panthers displayed standing in front of that Philly polling station in "uniform" while brandishing a nightstick...while charging Conservatives with voter suppression simply because they want people who vote to have verifiable ID's.

Jimmy Carter supports national voter ID. Do you consider him to be part of the "voter id scam"?

As long as those IDs he suggests are free and easy to get..nope.

 

[Oldstyle]

No VOTERS were intimidated!!!!!

The two white GOP thugs, who went to the black voting district to intimidate the black voters with their camera, claimed they were intimidated by the respectful and gentlemanly black panthers who were standing outside the poling entrance minding their own business when the GOP goons approached THEM. BTW, the GOP thugs were allowed into the polling place even though it wasn't their voting district!!!

Respectful and gentlemanly? Standing outside a polling place brandishing a nightstick. That's really what you're going to go with, Ed?

What, exactly, are you going to bust them on?

The Justice Department should have charged them with violating the 1965 Voters Rights Act. It's one of the most blatant examples of voter intimidation I've ever seen. What Ed refers to as a GOP "thug" complaining about the Black Panther's behavior was in actuality Barton Bull, the former publisher of the Village Voice.

 

[Oldstyle]

This is another hilarious and ridiculous molehill about nothing. Again, it's also hypocrisy at it's height. Conservatives are using all sorts of tactics to suppress voting, most notably the voter id scam. They are changing what you can use to as ID to vote..then making it impossible for some people to get ID. That should be illegal. Additionally conservatives send out guy dressed like FBI agents to intimidate people at polls, all the time.

These guys were in a black neighborhood and really doing nothing. They didn't have bats, they had night sticks. And when challenged, they cooperated completely.

What's "hypocrisy at it's height" is people like you and Ed condoning behavior like what the Black Panthers displayed standing in front of that Philly polling station in "uniform" while brandishing a nightstick...while charging Conservatives with voter suppression simply because they want people who vote to have verifiable ID's.

Jimmy Carter supports national voter ID. Do you consider him to be part of the "voter id scam"?

As long as those IDs he suggests are free and easy to get..nope.

So you accuse Republicans of being up to no good for seeking the same thing that you have no problem with when it's being asked for by Jimmy Carter? You can't get your position straight on this...can you, Sallow?

 

[edthecynic]

You're right, Ed...it was a nightstick that Black Panthers used to intimidate voters not a bat. Does that make you feel better about Eric Holder declining to prosecute them?

No VOTERS were intimidated!!!!!

The two white GOP thugs, who went to the black voting district to intimidate the black voters with their camera, claimed they were intimidated by the respectful and gentlemanly black panthers who were standing outside the poling entrance minding their own business when the GOP goons approached THEM. BTW, the GOP thugs were allowed into the polling place even though it wasn't their voting district!!!

Respectful and gentlemanly? Standing outside a polling place brandishing a nightstick. That's really what you're going to go with, Ed?

The lies just keep on coming. Nobody BRANDISHED anything, except maybe the GOP thugs with their camera!!!

tr.v. bran·dished, bran·dish·ing, bran·dish·es.
1. To wave or flourish (a weapon, for example) menacingly.

 

[Sallow]

Respectful and gentlemanly? Standing outside a polling place brandishing a nightstick. That's really what you're going to go with, Ed?

What, exactly, are you going to bust them on?

The Justice Department should have charged them with violating the 1965 Voters Rights Act. It's one of the most blatant examples of voter intimidation I've ever seen. What Ed refers to as a GOP "thug" complaining about the Black Panther's behavior was in actuality Barton Bull, the former publisher of the Village Voice.

Except they didn't intimidate anyone. See..you actually need people to be intimidated to make the charge.

 

[edthecynic]

Respectful and gentlemanly? Standing outside a polling place brandishing a nightstick. That's really what you're going to go with, Ed?

What, exactly, are you going to bust them on?

The Justice Department should have charged them with violating the 1965 Voters Rights Act. It's one of the most blatant examples of voter intimidation I've ever seen. What Ed refers to as a GOP "thug" complaining about the Black Panther's behavior was in actuality Barton Bull, the former publisher of the Village Voice.

Barton BULLshit!!!

"Overheated rhetoric filled with insinuations and unsubstantiated charges": A Republican who actually knows something about the New Black Panther case speaks out | Philly | 07/18/2010

That would be the conservative vice chair of the U.S. Civil Rights Commission, Abigail Thernstrom:
Sadly for Alexander, he seems to have written before Abigail Thernstrom told Politico she backed that decision, and said, “This doesn’t have to do with the Black Panthers, this has to do with [her Republican colleagues'] fantasies about how they could use this issue to topple the [Obama] administration,” said Thernstrom. “My fellow conservatives on the commission had this wild notion they could bring Eric Holder down and really damage the president."
Writing in the National Review, Thernstrom also noted the relative thinness of the case against the NBPP: "The legal standards that must be met to prove voter intimidation — the charge — are very high. In the 45 years since the act was passed, there have been a total of three successful prosecutions. The incident involved only two Panthers at a single majority-black precinct in Philadelphia. So far — after months of hearings, testimony and investigation — no one has produced actual evidence that any voters were too scared to cast their ballots. Too much overheated rhetoric filled with insinuations and unsubstantiated charges has been devoted to this case.

 

[Sallow]

What's "hypocrisy at it's height" is people like you and Ed condoning behavior like what the Black Panthers displayed standing in front of that Philly polling station in "uniform" while brandishing a nightstick...while charging Conservatives with voter suppression simply because they want people who vote to have verifiable ID's.

Jimmy Carter supports national voter ID. Do you consider him to be part of the "voter id scam"?

As long as those IDs he suggests are free and easy to get..nope.

So you accuse Republicans of being up to no good for seeking the same thing that you have no problem with when it's being asked for by Jimmy Carter? You can't get your position straight on this...can you, Sallow?

Get what straight? What part of free and easy to get is hard to understand?

41% of the electorate actually votes in this country. That's the lowest of all industrialized nations. Additionally we have a really funky electoral process that no one uses..or even understands.

I am for making voting mandatory. Making it easy and getting rid of the electoral college.

It should be free and easy to register to vote.

 

[Liability]

Investigating the Department of "Justice" over the gun running crap in Mexico is perfectly appropriate.

If the complaint is that it might (OMG!) have a political agenda driving it, I ask "so what?"

The stinky shit STILL needs to get investigated. Our beloved AG needs to 'splain what he knew, when he knew it and what he authorized.

If the investigation gets tainted or otherwise undercut by partisan political hackery, I agree that's a bad thing. IT should damn well be fucking avoided.

But that's no reason not investigate this as well as they can.

Something truly stinks here. It needs to get aired out.

And in a Republic of limited authority designed to be checked and balanced, how can it be 'wrong" for Congress to investigate a possible set of crimes arguably committed by the Executive Branch Department CHARGED with the enforcement of our laws?

 

[Oldstyle]

No VOTERS were intimidated!!!!!

The two white GOP thugs, who went to the black voting district to intimidate the black voters with their camera, claimed they were intimidated by the respectful and gentlemanly black panthers who were standing outside the poling entrance minding their own business when the GOP goons approached THEM. BTW, the GOP thugs were allowed into the polling place even though it wasn't their voting district!!!

Respectful and gentlemanly? Standing outside a polling place brandishing a nightstick. That's really what you're going to go with, Ed?

The lies just keep on coming. Nobody BRANDISHED anything, except maybe the GOP thugs with their camera!!!

tr.v. bran·dished, bran·dish·ing, bran·dish·es.
1. To wave or flourish (a weapon, for example) menacingly.

So now the Black Panther holding the nightstick was doing so in a fashion that would not be menacing? How exactly does one do that, Ed? Unless you are completely naive the mere fact that someone is holding a weapon denotes menace. That you find a camera to be more threatening than a nightstick shows how ridiculous you are on this topic.

 

[edthecynic]

Respectful and gentlemanly? Standing outside a polling place brandishing a nightstick. That's really what you're going to go with, Ed?

The lies just keep on coming. Nobody BRANDISHED anything, except maybe the GOP thugs with their camera!!!

tr.v. bran·dished, bran·dish·ing, bran·dish·es.
1. To wave or flourish (a weapon, for example) menacingly.

So now the Black Panther holding the nightstick was doing so in a fashion that would not be menacing? How exactly does one do that, Ed? Unless you are completely naive the mere fact that someone is holding a weapon denotes menace. That you find a camera to be more threatening than a nightstick shows how ridiculous you are on this topic.

The definition of "BRANDISH" is posted and the CON$ own video shows the black panther's arms at his sides the whole time, so the CON$ then try to control the debate by redefining the terms, as they have been programmed to do.

October 11, 2011
RUSH: I've often said, I said last week he who controls the definition of words, the meaning of words, controls the debate. He who controls the language controls the debate.

 

[Oldstyle]

As long as those IDs he suggests are free and easy to get..nope.

So you accuse Republicans of being up to no good for seeking the same thing that you have no problem with when it's being asked for by Jimmy Carter? You can't get your position straight on this...can you, Sallow?

Get what straight? What part of free and easy to get is hard to understand?

41% of the electorate actually votes in this country. That's the lowest of all industrialized nations. Additionally we have a really funky electoral process that no one uses..or even understands.

I am for making voting mandatory. Making it easy and getting rid of the electoral college.

It should be free and easy to register to vote.

It is free and easy to register to vote. Does it take a little effort? Yes, it does. About as much effort as it takes to get a library card. You do have to MAKE the effort however and you're upset because people aren't willing to take responsibility for making that small effort don't get to vote. Voting is a right. You want to make it mandatory? Why...so millions of people who don't care enough to go to the polls will be forced to cast a vote? I assume you think that demographic will help elect liberals? That says volumes about the people who "support" your views.

 

[Oldstyle]

The lies just keep on coming. Nobody BRANDISHED anything, except maybe the GOP thugs with their camera!!!

tr.v. bran·dished, bran·dish·ing, bran·dish·es.
1. To wave or flourish (a weapon, for example) menacingly.

So now the Black Panther holding the nightstick was doing so in a fashion that would not be menacing? How exactly does one do that, Ed? Unless you are completely naive the mere fact that someone is holding a weapon denotes menace. That you find a camera to be more threatening than a nightstick shows how ridiculous you are on this topic.

The definition of "BRANDISH" is posted and the CON$ own video shows the black panther's arms at his sides the whole time, so the CON$ then try to control the debate by redefining the terms, as they have been programmed to do.

October 11, 2011
RUSH: I've often said, I said last week he who controls the definition of words, the meaning of words, controls the debate. He who controls the language controls the debate.

The absurdity of your argument is breathtaking, Ed.

I suppose if someone walks into a bank holding a gun at their side then they are not brandishing a weapon? Good luck getting that claim to hold up in court! That Black Panther chose to stand in front of that polling station holding that nightstick in his hand not because he was being a "gentleman". He was there to intimidate.

 

[Liability]

So now the Black Panther holding the nightstick was doing so in a fashion that would not be menacing? How exactly does one do that, Ed? Unless you are completely naive the mere fact that someone is holding a weapon denotes menace. That you find a camera to be more threatening than a nightstick shows how ridiculous you are on this topic.

The definition of "BRANDISH" is posted and the CON$ own video shows the black panther's arms at his sides the whole time, so the CON$ then try to control the debate by redefining the terms, as they have been programmed to do.

October 11, 2011
RUSH: I've often said, I said last week he who controls the definition of words, the meaning of words, controls the debate. He who controls the language controls the debate.

The absurdity of your argument is breathtaking, Ed.

I suppose if someone walks into a bank holding a gun at their side then they are not brandishing a weapon? Good luck getting that claim to hold up in court! That Black Panther chose to stand in front of that polling station holding that nightstick in his hand not because he was being a "gentleman". He was there to intimidate.

edthesickdick knows that. He's just being dishonest. That happens with him, a lot: in fact it happens on any day of the week that ends in the letters "d-a-y."

 

[edthecynic]

So now the Black Panther holding the nightstick was doing so in a fashion that would not be menacing? How exactly does one do that, Ed? Unless you are completely naive the mere fact that someone is holding a weapon denotes menace. That you find a camera to be more threatening than a nightstick shows how ridiculous you are on this topic.

The definition of "BRANDISH" is posted and the CON$ own video shows the black panther's arms at his sides the whole time, so the CON$ then try to control the debate by redefining the terms, as they have been programmed to do.

October 11, 2011
RUSH: I've often said, I said last week he who controls the definition of words, the meaning of words, controls the debate. He who controls the language controls the debate.

The absurdity of your argument is breathtaking, Ed.

I suppose if someone walks into a bank holding a gun at their side then they are not brandishing a weapon? Good luck getting that claim to hold up in court! That Black Panther chose to stand in front of that polling station holding that nightstick in his hand not because he was being a "gentleman". He was there to intimidate.

If simply holding a nightstick by his side was truly intimidating, you CON$ would not have had to lie about it being brandished. Your own exaggerations, "baseball bats," "brandishing," etc., betray your OWN belief in the WEAKNESS of your argument.

 

[Liability]

Yep. Edthesickdick is addicted to lying.

 

[Oldstyle]

The definition of "BRANDISH" is posted and the CON$ own video shows the black panther's arms at his sides the whole time, so the CON$ then try to control the debate by redefining the terms, as they have been programmed to do.

October 11, 2011
RUSH: I've often said, I said last week he who controls the definition of words, the meaning of words, controls the debate. He who controls the language controls the debate.

The absurdity of your argument is breathtaking, Ed.

I suppose if someone walks into a bank holding a gun at their side then they are not brandishing a weapon? Good luck getting that claim to hold up in court! That Black Panther chose to stand in front of that polling station holding that nightstick in his hand not because he was being a "gentleman". He was there to intimidate.

If simply holding a nightstick by his side was truly intimidating, you CON$ would not have had to lie about it being brandished. Your own exaggerations, "baseball bats," "brandishing," etc., betray your OWN belief in the WEAKNESS of your argument.

I didn't use the term baseball bat, Ed...that was someone else. I knew all along that it was a nightstick. You know if it "had" been a baseball bat I suppose you could make the rather thin case that the wielder was either coming from or going to a baseball game. Hard to have a reason to be holding a nightstick in your hand though, standing guard outside of a polling station. I challenge you to walk down a city street holding a nightstick in in your hand and NOT have people view it as menacing. All you're doing is performing intellectual contortions to keep from admitting that this was an obvious violation of the Voter Rights Act and Holder was wrong to have the case thrown out.





Note the difference between the way Mr. Shabazz "brandishes" his nightstick when the first citizen approaches him and how he attempts to conceal it under his arm when the cops show up.