Could Trump Actually Deport 11 Million People?

[Unkotare]

.... If we ended this insane anchor baby policy.......

The "insane" 14th Amendment? If you plan to amend the Constitution you'd better get going. You have a lot of work to do.

The idea that the 14th amendment applied to the babies of illegals is based on a recent court ruling.

IT was wrong and needs to be reversed.

Is this an act or something?

 

[Correll]

.... If we ended this insane anchor baby policy.......

The "insane" 14th Amendment? If you plan to amend the Constitution you'd better get going. You have a lot of work to do.

The idea that the 14th amendment applied to the babies of illegals is based on a recent court ruling.

IT was wrong and needs to be reversed.

Is this an act or something?

The 14th amendment was for freed slaves.

Not the children of visiting foreign nationals.

 

[Unkotare]

.... If we ended this insane anchor baby policy.......

The "insane" 14th Amendment? If you plan to amend the Constitution you'd better get going. You have a lot of work to do.

The idea that the 14th amendment applied to the babies of illegals is based on a recent court ruling.

IT was wrong and needs to be reversed.

Is this an act or something?

The 14th amendment was for freed slaves.

Not the children of visiting foreign nationals.

Maybe someday you'll learn how to read.

 

[georgephillip]

No one has to deport illegals. This was proved when Arizona passed a law - before it ever went into effect. They announced it, they passed it, they declared they meant it, and they declared they would enforce it...and illegals flooded out of the state....BEFORE it ever went into effect.

Do you have any credible evidence for this claim?

 

[Correll]

.... If we ended this insane anchor baby policy.......

The "insane" 14th Amendment? If you plan to amend the Constitution you'd better get going. You have a lot of work to do.

The idea that the 14th amendment applied to the babies of illegals is based on a recent court ruling.

IT was wrong and needs to be reversed.

Is this an act or something?

The 14th amendment was for freed slaves.

Not the children of visiting foreign nationals.

Maybe someday you'll learn how to read.

Maybe someday you'll realize that importing vast populations of Third World unskilled and semi-skilled labor is not the way to prepare American for the 21st century.

 

[georgephillip]

Maybe someday you'll realize that importing vast populations of Third World unskilled and semi-skilled labor is not the way to prepare American for the 21st century.

Perhaps you can explain why capital should be free to cross borders while labor is not?

 

[georgephillip]

And Hitlery wants to put NAFTA Bill in charge of doing it again.
Trump 2016 ^ for no other reason than ^.

Have you forgotten 2006?
Maybe you should check in with Karl Rove before going any farther with Trump's vision of suicide?

"Yet this is only half the story.

"During the demonstrations, activists chanted, 'Today we march, tomorrow we vote!' True to this vow, a galvanized Latino community created an ongoing crisis for conservatives at the polls, starting with the 2006 midterms.

"Conservative Miami Herald columnist Andres Oppenheimer wrote: 'Hispanics said 'adiós' to President Bush's Republican Party… voting in much greater numbers than expected for Democratic candidates in an apparent rejection of the ruling party's efforts to blame much of the nation's problems on undocumented migrants.'

"Savvy Republicans scrambled to contain the damage. Presidential advisor Karl Rove showed up at a national meeting of La Raza, the country's largest Latino civil rights organization, and attempted to distance the White House from anti-immigrant sentiment. Rove would later warn his party, 'An anti-Hispanic attitude is suicidal.'"
The massive immigrant-rights protests of 2006 are still changing politics

 

[georgephillip]

This is an absurd diaspora created by the UN to change our country into the country of everyone, but. We either stop the assault or redefine the United States of America as an non sovereign nation of the UN.

Why are you blaming the UN instead of the US Chamber of Commerce for the problem of illegal immigration?

There is plenty of blame to go around.

Point is, time to fix it.

Pedro Go Home!

Fixing the immigration problem starts in DC:
"According to Rick Mines, author of the 2010 Indigenous Farm Worker Study, “the total population of California’s indigenous Mexican farm workers is about 120,000 … a total of 165,000 indigenous farm workers and family members in California.”3 Counting the many indigenous people living and working in urban areas, the total is considerably higher. Indigenous people made up 7% of Mexican migrants in 1991-3, the years just before the passage of the North American Free Trade Agreement. In 2006-8, they made up 29%—four times more.4 - See more at: Globalization and NAFTA Caused Migration from Mexico | Political Research Associates

 

[georgephillip]

Bullshit. UnAmerican would be deporting legals. There is nothing unAmerican about deporting illegal people that have sneaked into our country. We expect our laws to be enforced. It is why we have them. And THAT IS American!

I suppose you already know Mexicans are Americans? Apparently you are confused about the relationship between trade and immigration:
"U.S. trade and immigration policy are linked. They are part of a single system, not separate and independent policies. Since NAFTA’s passage in 1993, the U.S. Congress has debated and passed several new trade agreements—with Peru, Jordan, Chile, and the Central American Free Trade Agreement. At the same time, Congress has debated immigration policy as though those trade agreements bore no relationship to the waves of displaced people migrating to the U.S., looking for work. Meanwhile, heightened anti-immigrant hysteria has increasingly demonized those migrants, leading to measures to deny them jobs, rights, or any equality with people living in the communities around them. - See more at: Globalization and NAFTA Caused Migration from Mexico | Political Research Associates"

 

[bripat9643]

Maybe someday you'll realize that importing vast populations of Third World unskilled and semi-skilled labor is not the way to prepare American for the 21st century.

Perhaps you can explain why capital should be free to cross borders while labor is not?

Foreign labor is free to go to any country that will admit them. Why do you think Americans don't have a right to determine who crosses our borders?

 

[bripat9643]

Bullshit. UnAmerican would be deporting legals. There is nothing unAmerican about deporting illegal people that have sneaked into our country. We expect our laws to be enforced. It is why we have them. And THAT IS American!

I suppose you already know Mexicans are Americans? Apparently you are confused about the relationship between trade and immigration:
"U.S. trade and immigration policy are linked. They are part of a single system, not separate and independent policies. Since NAFTA’s passage in 1993, the U.S. Congress has debated and passed several new trade agreements—with Peru, Jordan, Chile, and the Central American Free Trade Agreement. At the same time, Congress has debated immigration policy as though those trade agreements bore no relationship to the waves of displaced people migrating to the U.S., looking for work. Meanwhile, heightened anti-immigrant hysteria has increasingly demonized those migrants, leading to measures to deny them jobs, rights, or any equality with people living in the communities around them. - See more at: Globalization and NAFTA Caused Migration from Mexico | Political Research Associates"

By definition, Mexicans aren't Americans. They are citizens of Mexico.

There is no necessary relationship between trade and immigration. However, they are both means that crony capitalists use to undermine American wages.

How can anyone who pretends to be a champion of the working man defend unlimited immigration from third world countries? You're a scathing hypocrite.

 

[georgephillip]

Because the diaspora is a UN Initiative, not an American one. The proof is that our country is not the only country that is suffering under their agenda. As in case you haven't noticed, we are riding ourselves of RINOS as well

Is this the diaspora movement you're referring to?
http://www.diasporaalliance.org/global-diaspora-week/
If so, what does it have to do with Mexico?

 

[georgephillip]

Maybe someday you'll realize that importing vast populations of Third World unskilled and semi-skilled labor is not the way to prepare American for the 21st century.

Perhaps you can explain why capital should be free to cross borders while labor is not?

Foreign labor is free to go to any country that will admit them. Why do you think Americans don't have a right to determine who crosses our borders?

Which doesn't explain why capital is free to cross borders and humanity is not. Adam Smith would have found that to violate free markets.

 

[georgephillip]

By definition, Mexicans aren't Americans. They are citizens of Mexico.

Capital freely crosses all American borders.
Why shouldn't labor have the same right?

 

[bripat9643]

Maybe someday you'll realize that importing vast populations of Third World unskilled and semi-skilled labor is not the way to prepare American for the 21st century.

Perhaps you can explain why capital should be free to cross borders while labor is not?

Foreign labor is free to go to any country that will admit them. Why do you think Americans don't have a right to determine who crosses our borders?

Which doesn't explain why capital is free to cross borders and humanity is not. Adam Smith would have found that to violate free markets.

Capital can cross borders because people have a right to use their property any way they like so long as they don't infringe on anyone else's rights. That's a fundamental corollary of property rights. Crossing a foreign border, on the other hand, is not a right. The claim that Germans have just as much right to live in America as Americans doesn't pass the laugh test.

 

[bripat9643]

By definition, Mexicans aren't Americans. They are citizens of Mexico.

Capital freely crosses all American borders.
Why shouldn't labor have the same right?

Already explained in another post. Did you notice the different colors? What do you imagine those mean?

 

[easyt65]

"No one has to deport illegals. This was proved when Arizona passed a law - before it ever went into effect. They announced it, they passed it, they declared they meant it, and they declared they would enforce it...and illegals flooded out of the state....BEFORE it ever went into effect."

Still posting the same old made up bullshit, I see, Easy, without links, because you heard it on AM radio once while driving through Dogtrot, Missouri....

I actually LIVED it, VAL. I WATCHED it and followed it in the news, I read about it in newspapers and in magazine articles. Dumbasses like you think if it isn't on the internet it didn't happen, as if everything on the internet is true.

Life is actually happening right now away from your computer / smart phone. If you really want to educate yourself go live life and experience some of it yourself.

And if you really want research on it get off your ass and learn how to use 'google'. Don't sit there and demand someone spoon-feeds your lazy ass. I have no problem leaving you fat, dumb, and lazy - if you don't care enough to make an effort I sure don't have a reason to?!

Thanks for demonstrating the 'lack of desire' I was talking about.

 

[georgephillip]

How can anyone who pretends to be a champion of the working man defend unlimited immigration from third world countries? You're a scathing hypocrite.

I'm not for unlimited immigration nor do I promote "free trade" treaties that impoverish millions of workers in other countries.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Deport 11 millions? Sure, if we turn the USA into a fascist police dictatorship.

 

[bripat9643]

How can anyone who pretends to be a champion of the working man defend unlimited immigration from third world countries? You're a scathing hypocrite.

I'm not for unlimited immigration nor do I promote "free trade" treaties that impoverish millions of workers in other countries.

You've made it clear that people should be free to enter any country they want to enter. So how is that not the equivalent of unlimited immigration?

Free trade doesn't impoverish workers in low wage countries. It makes them wealthier. If you dispute that, then consider the average wage of Chinese workers over the last 30 years.