Consensis is Not Science - Science is Not Consensus

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Is the goal to not believe ANYTHING the scientific community says in order to deny global warming?

Similar to how we aren't supposed to believe ANYTHING we hear from the media when they expose Trump?

And don't believe ANYTHING the politicians say if it doesn't fit your narrative?

Seems like a tactic a party that lies a lot would use. Or cognitive dissonance.

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Consensus is not Science; Science is Not Consensus

The learned consensus used to be that the sun orbited around the earth

But science is not a show of hands exercise

"The learned consensus used to be that the sun orbited around the earth." - Mac-7

Yes, and any true scientist that believed that was open to the possibility that new scientific information might prove that untrue. But you don't claim that to be what scientists held true, but 'the learned' and who pray tell were these learned?

Your false argument is exposed, when your omission is exposed: Galileo Galilei put his liberty and life on the line to convince the religious establishment that the Copernican model of the solar system, in which the Earth and the other planets revolved around the sun, represented physical reality.

The learned folks, those so-called scientists you refer to were not engaging in sicience on the subject. They did not base their views on any scientific consensus based on science itself. Their views and science were in line with what the Church demanded.

"But science is not a show of hands exercise." - Mac-7

There exist scientific consensus on many things. To deny this is to be engaging in mental masturbation, with no hope of a release.

And when you reframe what others say, you end up looking even less intelligent than believed possible. Nobody claims 'Science is consensus!!" What people say is that there exists a consensus on many scientific theories. And no scientist has a closed mind to changes in the known that can be proven. Disagreement, discussion, and debate exist in the scientific fields. And when in the 21st century, a consensus is reached, it is usually a learned consensus absent religious dogma.

 

[Mac-7]

Consensus is not Science; Science is Not Consensus


"The learned consensus used to be that the sun orbited around the earth." - Mac-7

Yes, and any true scientist that believed that was open to the possibility that new scientific information might prove that untrue. But you don't claim that to be what scientists held true, but 'the learned' and who pray tell were these learned?

Your false argument is exposed, when your omission is exposed: Galileo Galilei put his liberty and life on the line to convince the religious establishment that the Copernican model of the solar system, in which the Earth and the other planets revolved around the sun, represented physical reality.

The learned folks, those so-called scientists you refer to were not engaging in sicience on the subject. They did not base their views on any scientific consensus based on science itself. Their views and science were in line with what the Church demanded.

"But science is not a show of hands exercise." - Mac-7

There exist scientific consensus on many things. To deny this is to be engaging in mental masturbation, with no hope of a release.

And when you reframe what others say, you end up looking even less intelligent than believed possible. Nobody claims 'Science is consensus!!" What people say is that there exists a consensus on many scientific theories. And no scientist has a closed mind to changes in the known that can be proven. Disagreement, discussion, and debate exist in the scientific fields. And when in the 21st century, a consensus is reached, it is usually a learned consensus absent religious dogma.

99.99% of libs claiming that we are headed to global warming doomsday are no more learned than the Church that censured Galileo back in the Dark Ages

AlGore and the teenage moron from Sweden for instance

And they may be the most learned of the entire greenie crowd

 

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99.99% of libs claiming that we are headed to global warming doomsday are no more learned than the Church that censured Galileo back in the Dark Ages

AlGore and the teenage moron from Sweden for instance

And they may be the most learned of the entire greenie crowd

Consensus is not Science; Science is Not Consensus

The learned consensus used to be that the sun orbited around the earth

But science is not a show of hands exercise

"The learned consensus used to be that the sun orbited around the earth." - Mac-7

Yes, and any true scientist that believed that was open to the possibility that new scientific information might prove that untrue. But you don't claim that to be what scientists held true, but 'the learned' and who pray tell were these learned?

Your false argument is exposed, when your omission is exposed: Galileo Galilei put his liberty and life on the line to convince the religious establishment that the Copernican model of the solar system, in which the Earth and the other planets revolved around the sun, represented physical reality.

The learned folks, those so-called scientists you refer to were not engaging in sicience on the subject. They did not base their views on any scientific consensus based on science itself. Their views and science were in line with what the Church demanded.

"But science is not a show of hands exercise." - Mac-7

There exist scientific consensus on many things. To deny this is to be engaging in mental masturbation, with no hope of a release.

And when you reframe what others say, you end up looking even less intelligent than believed possible. Nobody claims 'Science is consensus!!" What people say is that there exists a consensus on many scientific theories. And no scientist has a closed mind to changes in the known that can be proven. Disagreement, discussion, and debate exist in the scientific fields. And when in the 21st century, a consensus is reached, it is usually a learned consensus absent religious dogma.

 

[ChemEngineer]

And when you reframe what others say, you end up looking even less intelligent than believed possible. Nobody claims 'Science is consensus!!" What people say is that there exists a consensus on many scientific theories. And no scientist has a closed mind to changes in the known that can be proven. Disagreement, discussion, and debate exist in the scientific fields. And when in the 21st century, a consensus is reached, it is usually a learned consensus absent religious dogma.

The Climate Change Cult screams "consensus" relentlessly.
At a Congressional Hearing, a congressman repeatedly asked the President of Sierra Club "If scientists show there is no human caused global warming, will you admit you were wrong?" or words to that effect. He huddled with counsel and said, "97% of climate scientists say climate change is real and caused by humans." The congressman repeatedly asked the question for a yes or no answer.
All the President of Sierra Club would do was repeat "97% consensus" over and over and over and over.

And here you deny it. Please, you're one of the Cult.

As to "religious dogma," the overwhelming majority of Nobel Laureates in science are Christians and Jews who believe in God, or as you call it "religious dogma."

You're on the wrong side of everything. Leftists almost always are.

 

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The Climate Change Cult screams "consensus" relentlessly.
At a Congressional Hearing, a congressman repeatedly asked the President of Sierra Club "If scientists show there is no human caused global warming, will you admit you were wrong?" or words to that effect. He huddled with counsel and said, "97% of climate scientists say climate change is real and caused by humans." The congressman repeatedly asked the question for a yes or no answer.
All the President of Sierra Club would do was repeat "97% consensus" over and over and over and over.

And here you deny it. Please, you're one of the Cult.

As to "religious dogma," the overwhelming majority of Nobel Laureates in science are Christians and Jews who believe in God, or as you call it "religious dogma."

You're on the wrong side of everything. Leftists almost always are.

really?

NASA

Climate Change - NASA Science

NASA is a global leader in studying Earth’s changing climate.

climate.nasa.gov

 

[Mac-7]

Consensus is not Science; Science is Not Consensus


"The learned consensus used to be that the sun orbited around the earth." - Mac-7

Yes, and any true scientist that believed that was open to the possibility that new scientific information might prove that untrue. But you don't claim that to be what scientists held true, but 'the learned' and who pray tell were these learned?

Your false argument is exposed, when your omission is exposed: Galileo Galilei put his liberty and life on the line to convince the religious establishment that the Copernican model of the solar system, in which the Earth and the other planets revolved around the sun, represented physical reality.

The learned folks, those so-called scientists you refer to were not engaging in sicience on the subject. They did not base their views on any scientific consensus based on science itself. Their views and science were in line with what the Church demanded.

"But science is not a show of hands exercise." - Mac-7

There exist scientific consensus on many things. To deny this is to be engaging in mental masturbation, with no hope of a release.

And when you reframe what others say, you end up looking even less intelligent than believed possible. Nobody claims 'Science is consensus!!" What people say is that there exists a consensus on many scientific theories. And no scientist has a closed mind to changes in the known that can be proven. Disagreement, discussion, and debate exist in the scientific fields. And when in the 21st century, a consensus is reached, it is usually a learned consensus absent religious dogma.

In the case of the man-made global warming DOOMSDAY HOAX the religious dogma is coming from the lib warmists

 

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In the case of the man-made global warming DOOMSDAY HOAX the religious dogma is coming from the lib warmists

I see. Okay.

rant over?

 

[Mac-7]

really?

NASA

Climate Change - NASA Science

NASA is a global leader in studying Earth’s changing climate.

climate.nasa.gov

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Would that be the same NASA headed by obama appointee who stated that part of his mission raise self esteem of muslims?

Yeah, that NASA

nasa chief says part of hid job is to raise self esteme of muslims at DuckDuckGo

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[Mac-7]

I see. Okay.

rant over?

Its never over as long as the left keeps proposing goofy ideas to save the planet

 

[Foxfyre]

Consensus is not Science; Science is Not Consensus​

The Semmelweis reflex or “Semmelweis effect” is a metaphor for the reflex-like tendency to reject new evidence or new knowledge because it contradicts established norms, beliefs, or paradigms.[1]

The term derives from the name of Ignaz Semmelweis, a Hungarian physician who discovered in 1847 that childbed fever mortality rates fell ten-fold when doctors disinfected their hands with a chlorine solution before moving from one patient to another, or, most particularly, after an autopsy. (At one of the two maternity wards at the university hospital where Semmelweis worked, physicians performed autopsies on every deceased patient.) Semmelweis’s procedure saved many lives by stopping the ongoing contamination of patients (mostly pregnant women) with what he termed “cadaverous particles”, twenty years before germ theory was discovered.[2] Despite the overwhelming empirical evidence, his fellow doctors rejected his hand-washing suggestions, often for non-medical reasons. For instance, some doctors refused to believe that a gentleman’s hands could transmit disease.[3]



In the preface to the fiftieth anniversary edition of his book The Myth of Mental Illness, Thomas Szasz says that Semmelweis’s biography impressed upon him at a young age, a “deep sense of the invincible social power of false truths.”[5]

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“A new scientific truth does not triumph by convincing its opponents and making them see the light, but rather because its opponents eventually die…..” – Max Planck (1858 – 1947)

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In 1983, Barry Marshall and John Warren presented a paper to the Australian Gastroenterological Society claiming that stomach ulcers are caused by infection of Helicobacter pylori. They never finished their presentation because they were laughed off the stage. Twenty-two years later, they were awarded the Nobel Prize in Medicine in 2005 for their discovery.


Doctors and nurses, experts in their fields, kill 250,000 to 400,000 patients a year through medical malpractice.(www.HopkinsMedicine.org)


Here is a thought experiment with an obvious conclusion. In 1895, Lord Kelvin, the President of the Royal Society, the oldest science organization in the world, declared: “Heavier-than- air human flight is impossible.”


Imagine that two years later, a distinguished member of the Royal Society introduced Lloyd and Wilbur Wright to a meeting of The Society, and they announced, “We have been experimenting with our heavier-than-air invention and we believe we can fly it.”


What would the Royal Society members have said? The same thing that doubters have always said because the Wright Brothers did not have the necessary pedigrees as did Lord Kelvin. “Throw them out! Out of here!”


“Consensus” continues to be the siren song for Darwinian evolution, climate change, and most recently, the Covid-19 Cult, which has had severely destructive repercussions throughout schools and universities nationwide. The jabs, while failing to prevent Covid-19, have caused widespread myocarditis, and blood clots, killing thousands.

To summarize, an opinion is not more valid or scientific just because it is popular.

 

[Mac-7]

To summarize, an opinion is not more valid or scientific just because it is popular.

Most libs will disagree with that

They want to save the planet

 

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Its never over as long as the left keeps proposing goofy ideas to save the planet

Climate Change - NASA Science

NASA is a global leader in studying Earth’s changing climate.

climate.nasa.gov

 

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To summarize, an opinion is not more valid or scientific just because it is popular.

You leave much out. But simple is as simpleton does.

 

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Most libs will disagree with that

They want to save the planet

Good gawd!

Save the planet? How pathetic.

Does Jesus know about this?

 

[Foxfyre]

Most libs will disagree with that

They want to save the planet

I wish they were as interested in policies and initiatives that would actually help people be more free, more productive, more secure, more prosperous as they are in self-serving stuff that doesn't help anybody and certainly isn't 'saving the planet.'

 

[Mac-7]

Climate Change - NASA Science

NASA is a global leader in studying Earth’s changing climate.

climate.nasa.gov

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We get it

The global warming doomsday hoax scored a bullseye with you

 

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We get it

The global warming doomsday hoax scored a bullseye with you

 

[ChemEngineer]

In the case of the man-made global warming DOOMSDAY HOAX the religious dogma is coming from the lib warmists

Who love to panic and worry while waddling with other sheep....

Climate Change Cult

climate-change-cult.blogspot.com