"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion..." EO instead, then.

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Does this violate the Establishment Clause?

  1. Yes

  2. No

  3. No, and all government-recognized religious groups should be protected in the same way

  4. It may, but I would make an exception for the Jews, given the circumstances.

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  1. Fort Fun Indiana
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    POLITICS
    Trump Signs Order Against Anti-Semitism At Colleges, Worrying Free Speech Advocates
    December 11, 20194:42 PM ET

    LAUREL WAMSLEY

    Trump Signs Order Against Anti-Semitism At Colleges, Worrying Free Speech Advocates
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    "Establishment of religion"

    In Everson v. Board of Education (1947):

    "The "establishment of religion" clause of the First Amendment means at least this: Neither a state nor the federal government can set up a church. Neither can pass laws which aid one religion, aid all religions, or prefer one religion over another. " - wikipedia
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    Does not making a group a "protected group", based on their specific religion, violate this idea? Shall we also protect Sikhs? Wiccans? Muslims?
     
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    Pretty sure the civil rights act already protects against religious/ethnic discrimination so this EO seems redundant.
     
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    Then you aren't reading it right. This EO doesn't address housing, university admission, employment, etc. Read:

    "Title VI bans discrimination based on race, color or national origin in programs and activities, such as colleges and universities, that receive federal funding. The executive order will extend the ban to discrimination based on anti-Semitism."
     
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    And yet progressives felt it necessary to set a precedent and push to have Hate Crime Laws implemented in the United States that made certain groups of people protected classes.

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    It's very clear that this order doesn't establish or promote any religion. It does however, defend freedom of religion for people who are being persecuted by, in many cases, state funded institutions.
     
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    Which shouldn't be necessary if the legal system is doing it's job...

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    Does this mean the Koran is banned?
     
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    Why would it?
     
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    Hoho, how about aid one religion more than another?
     
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    The executive order in this case addresses a single issue, the appalling rise of open antisemitism on federally funded college campuses. Rising antisemitism in direct defiance of the laws of the land.

    Jewish groups on campus are harassed. Events hosted Jewish student groups on campuses are either shouted down by antagonists or forbidden to be held outright, citing 'security concerns'.

    If publicly funded schools fail to protect and provide access for all their students, not just non-Jewish students, then they should lose public funding.
     
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