elvis
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Please try to understand. If KSM and Abu Zubaidah are granted trial in the US, as Obama is asking for, they will WALK. Any judge in America will throw the case out because their rights were violated. It would be an injustice to the 2973 people who the people killed on Sept. 11 and their families if Khlied Shiek Muhammed and Abu Zubaidah were set free.
It is hard for me to feel sorry that these people were waterboarded when they sent 2973 people to their deaths but not before much worse torture, i.e. falling 100 stories knowing you're going to hit the pavement or burning to death in the explosions... not to mention whatever happened on the planes themselves.
Perhaps we should have thought of this before torturing them? But despite that, I don't think that's how it would work. Evidence that was found without torture exists, and that evidence can still be used.
I suggest you educate yourself on how exactly our justice system works.
Maybe they should have thought about it before torturing them, but the fact is they didn't. we need to be pragmatic about this. I don't think torture should be used because it doesn't work. I just don't like to hear people boo hoo about how rough it was on KSM and Abu Zubaidah. If you want to talk about justice, how about waterboarding each of them 2973 times before executing them. That wouldn't be justice, though, because the 2973 killed on 9/11 suffered far more than they would have under a wateboarding session.
It's not the torture that will get them off. Their fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments have been violated. I have talked to attorneys on the LEFT who agree with you that Gitmo should be closed that agree that the cases against them would be tossed out.