The u.s. Border will never be secured.

[usmcstinger]

Illegal immigration to the US is a crime. They commit fraud by lying, obtaining all services and documents that only Legal Aliens and US Citizens are entitled to. I doubt that they file Federal or State Income Taxes.
It is more probable than not that most Illegal Immigrants will not self identify. How will our government deal with this issue?

 

[wmspiers]

Put George Zimmerman in charge of border security and apply his neighborhood approach to our borders

THE U.S. BORDER WILL NEVER BE SECURED.

50,OOO border patrol agents, 20ft high electrical wall will not keep illegal aliens from coming to this country illegally. They will go around border patrol agents and they will get here IF there are jobs for them. We cannot control illegal immigration without work place enforcement. The border will never be secured. Why has it taken more than 25 years to secure the border after the 1986 promise? What is different about this promise? Our immigration system is not broken our border is broken and amnesty will not fix it.

 

[wmspiers]

Put George Zimmerman in charge of border security and apply his neighborhood approach to our borders.

 

[peach174]

Put the National Guard on the Boarders.
Give warnings that any who cross will be shot.
After a handful of them do get shot, word will spread real quick.
It is more humane to shoot a handful, rather than the coyotes and drug cartel who abandoned them and they die by hundreds that add up to the thousands over the years, in the desert heat.

This is what the number one thing that our Government is suppose to do is protect us and they are not doing it.

Let them have seasonal work visas for agricultural work, like pickers and landscaping and yard work.
Let the children that were brought here become legal citizens.
Let Americans have the jobs in the builders and workers in hotels.
I'm sick and tired of trying to give instructions to maids in hotels and they don't understand a word of what you are saying.

 

[antiquity]

Put George Zimmerman in charge of border security and apply his neighborhood approach to our borders

Funny, but I think you said that once before and it fell flat that time too.

 

[antiquity]

Put George Zimmerman in charge of border security and apply his neighborhood approach to our borders.

Do you hear the same echo as I do......maybe its all in your head.

 

[LilOlLady]

IMMIGRATION REFORM CREATES ANCHOR BABIES.
All children of illegal aliens are anchors.

Those who want to put children of illegal aliens on a path to citizenship is creating anchor babies and anchor babies create amnesty for their parents. Because we are not going to put the children of illegal aliens on a path to citizenship and deport their parent leaving the poor little children here alone. Path to citizenship is a path to amnesty because the majority of them are below the poverty level and will not have to pay the fine because they will plead hardship and the fine will be waive. Amnesty. Automatic birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens is also a path to amnesty. Bring a child across the border, on an visa and not leave and drop one in one of the many hospitals that deliver for free and you have created a path to amnesty.
Don’t let any of the gang of eight tell you because there is a fine, must learn English and they will have to go to the back of the line at the nearest immigration office that is it not amnesty because it is. Depends on what their definition of “amnesty” is.
If the word “anchor baby” offend anyone, get rid of the cause that creates them. Automatic birthright citizenship. If the word “illegal aliens” offends anyone secure the border, find and deport visa overstays and enforce our immigration laws and we will not have any “illegal aliens.”
Lets stop blaming those 11 million who are here illegally and put the blame on our half ass government that has been ignoring our immigration laws since Eisenhower, Hoover and Truman. Our immigration system worked for them.
A law is not a law if it is not enforced.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Definition of amnesty (n)

Bing Dictionary



am·nes·ty

[ ámnəstee ]


1.pardon: a general pardon, especially for those who have committed political crimes
2.prosecution-free period: a period during which crimes can be admitted or illegal weapons handed in without prosecution
3.pardon somebody: to grant an amnesty to somebody

Synonyms: pardon, reprieve, forgiveness, absolution, exoneration, remission

 

[MaryL]

I would like our borders to be open. Like they used to be back in the good old days 100 years ago. Even during the wild wild west days, Mexicans and Anglos crossed back and forth with nary a care. I can ignore a person that skirts the law once in a while. We are all human, and this culture has a multiple of sins. But Illegal aliens from Latin America, they are pushing the envelope here big time. They aren’t picking up on that subtle fact, enough already! America has a right to determine it’s future independent of foreign influence. Like any other country, period. Fact.

 

[Unkotare]

Put the National Guard on the Boarders.
Give warnings that any who cross will be shot.
After a handful of them do get shot... .

You know that's not going to happen, so why waste your time with dark fantasies?

 

[Unkotare]

But Illegal aliens from Latin America, they are pushing the envelope here big time. .

Not so much right now. Securing (not "closing" or turning into live target practice) our borders is a long-term goal of vital national importance, and one we should be doing all we can to work on today. But the fact is that net illegal immigration from Latin America is right now a net negative, thanks to Obama's brilliant plan to make sure our economy sucks so badly no one wants to come here.

This still leaves us with millions of problems with people who are here illegally now.

 

[BobPlumb]

Fact is it does not matter what immigration laws are passed if they are not enforced. The laws that are on the books now would work if they were informed.

There is one law that needed to be changed and its in the construction. We need to address the constitution in regards of who is considered a citizen by birth. Illegal immigrants should not be able to pop out American citizens.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Put the National Guard on the Boarders.
Give warnings that any who cross will be shot.
After a handful of them do get shot... .

You know that's not going to happen, so why waste your time with dark fantasies?

Fortunately, the United States Consitution prohibits the federal government from killing people who commit misdemeanors without a trial....although I am sure, based on what I read on this board, that the Right would like to change that right away.

 

[LilOlLady]

IMMIGRATION REFORM; SUICIDE FOR REPUBLICANS.


Immigration Reform with path to citizenship is suicide for Republicans no matter if every one of them in the Senate and House votes for it. They will create millions of liberals that will vote democratic and Republicans can kiss the Presidency and most of the Senate and House good-by forever. White people will forever be a minority and feel what it is like to be a minority. The days of old white men in power will be gone. White people will experience social, legal injustices, racial profiling, discrimination.
There may well be something else to consider. Will we turn into a third world country? With all of the third world countries problems? Your wealth will be taken away thorough taxes and distributed to the poor through entitlement programs? Republicans be careful how you vote.

 

[waltky]

Screw the family - don't ya think he shoulda been deported after half as many convictions???...

U.S. Border Patrol Deporting Illegal Alien with 37 Criminal Convictions in USA
July 24, 2013 -- U.S. Border Patrol agents say they have detained an illegal alien who's racked up 37 criminal convictions in the United States.

"Due to the suspect’s numerous criminal convictions, he was processed for an Administrative Removal and will be removed to Mexico," said the announcement from Customs and Border Patrol. Police in Rochester, N.Y. arrested the man on Saturday, July 20. They called the Border Patrol for assistance after the suspect gave three different names to a Rochester police officer.

Agents determined that the suspect was in the United States illegally, and a check of the database showed that he has 37 convictions, ranging from misdemeanors to felonies, on charges such as narcotics violations, assault on a federal officer, burglary and robbery. A spokesman for the Buffalo CBP sector told CNSNews.com that the suspect's first conviction came in 1982; the most recent was in 2007. Border Patrol says it first learned of the man on Saturday.

Two years ago, the Obama administration's Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency (ICE) announced that it would focus its enforcement efforts on finding and removing illegal aliens who have broken criminal laws in this country. Under the new policy, federal agents may issue detainers (requests to assume custody of an illegal alien) only for those convicted or charged with a felony; those with three or more misdemeanor convictions, excluding traffic offenses and other minor crimes; and those whose misdemeanors are more serious, such as offenses involving violence or driving under the influence.

ICE's Criminal Alien Program assists in the identification, arrest, and removal of "priority aliens" who are incarcerated in federal, state, and local prisons and jails, as well as at-large criminal aliens who have circumvented identification. In FY 2012, ICE says it removed 409,849 illegal aliens. Fifty-five percent of them (or 225,390) were convicted criminal aliens, the largest number of criminal aliens removed in agency history, ICE said.

- See more at: U.S. Border Patrol Deporting Illegal Alien with 37 Criminal Convictions in USA | CNS News

 

[Steven_R]

Where is the humanity and compassion for Americans that this bill will negative affect?

Tough shit. Should have stayed on your side of the border if you didn't want to risk family separation.

 

[Unkotare]

Fact is it does not matter what immigration laws are passed if they are not enforced. The laws that are on the books now would work if they were informed.

There is one law that needed to be changed and its in the construction. We need to address the constitution in regards of who is considered a citizen by birth. Illegal immigrants should not be able to pop out American citizens.

You need to think a little more about what that means and why that was amended to the Constitution.

 

[midcan5]

Why does everyone think immigrants only cross borders, many fly in and stay, they then move into communities that support them either through family connections or ethnicity. And fences don't work well on water last I checked.

The Cost of Failure: The Burden of Immigration Enforcement in America?s Cities | Drum Major Institute

"Whether or not President Obama considered all these moral aspects of the matter, his handling of this issue shows that he acted as a “responsible politician,” and not opportunistically as some of his critics charged. It was "the right thing to do." http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/stone-immigration/

 

[Luddly Neddite]

THE U.S. BORDER WILL NEVER BE SECURED.

Its true. The damn Pine Needle Backs just come across from Canada anytime they want.

Put the National Guard on the Boarders.
Give warnings that any who cross will be shot.
After a handful of them do get shot... .

You mean the southern border?

Obama did that. Deported more illegals than any other prez in the past.
The National Guard was unarmed and replaced by more armed Border Patrol agents than any other president had deployed in the past.

As usual, there's lots of hate here but few facts.

 

[antiquity]

THE U.S. BORDER WILL NEVER BE SECURED.

Its true. The damn Pine Needle Backs just come across from Canada anytime they want.

It also true most go back at the end of the day.

Put the National Guard on the Boarders.
Give warnings that any who cross will be shot.
After a handful of them do get shot... .

You mean the southern border?

Obama did that. Deported more illegals than any other prez in the past.
The National Guard was unarmed and replaced by more armed Border Patrol agents than any other president had deployed in the past.

As usual, there's lots of hate here but few facts.

But the catch and release of illegals are also up...

Thousands of illegal immigrants ticketed for deportation have been released from federal detention centers in recent weeks, according to a report that came out even as the White House and Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano denied any involvement in the policy.

Plans to release illegal immigrants in anticipation of looming budget cuts were announced earlier this week, but the report by The Associated Press detailed the policy had already taken effect and on a much larger scale. Citing federal documents, the agency said more than 2,000 illegal immigrants facing deportation had been released from immigration jails and plans exist to release 3,000 more people by the end of the month.

Thousands of illegal immigrants already released, according to report | Fox News

Your right about the facts and cherry picking those facts won't change that.