Colorado Pot prices dropping

[IsaacNewton]

Anyone that has smoked mj knows it is far less dangerous than alcohol and should be legal.

Alcohol makes you want to fight. MJ makes you want to clear out the local 7/11 of Doritos and think that Bob Sagat jokes are actually funny. The funniest thing ever!

Now that's power.

 

[Skylar]

True. Prohibition never solves a problem, it only creates worse problems.

Cool story bro. Let's legalize heroin!

btw, China had a huge opium problem and outlawed it. Solved the problem. Until the Brits made them legalize it, then the problem came back. Then the solved it again. Put your bong down and get some air. You bozos are why pot smoking has had a rough road, drunks don't usually think they're smarter but they sober up. Potheads don't seem to sober up.

Prohibition comes with costs. And pretty severe ones. So you have to weight the costs of the medicine vs the cost of what its curing. And pot is pretty harmless. While the cost to individuals, our budgets and society is severe.

Its an strict Cost-benefit question. And prohibition of pot costs us more than it benefits us.

 

[Skylar]

Anyone that has smoked mj knows it is far less dangerous than alcohol and should be legal.

Alcohol makes you want to fight. MJ makes you want to clear out the local 7/11 of Doritos and think that Bob Sagat jokes are actually funny. The funniest thing ever!

Now that's power.

And that's exactly it. A society should have the power to determine that a certain level of harm is too much establish a criminal baseline at that level. But once you've established your level of ACCEPTABLE harm, anything less dangerous should be legal.

If going 65 in a 65 mph zone is legal, then surely going 63 would be.

And we've established our baseline of acceptable harm: alcohol. Anything more dangerous than alcohol could be banned with logical consistency. But anything less harmful can't be with any logic or reason.

In what world is pot MORE dangerous than alcohol?

 

[Flash Farley]

Anyone that has smoked mj knows it is far less dangerous than alcohol and should be legal.

Alcohol makes you want to fight. MJ makes you want to clear out the local 7/11 of Doritos and think that Bob Sagat jokes are actually funny. The funniest thing ever!

Now that's power.

 

[PratchettFan]

It looks like the market is working itself out, that and the State realizes it has to drop taxes a bit to cut out the bottom end black market that is created when something legal is over-taxed (as opposed to the top end black market that is created by making something illegal)

Colorado s Recreational Marijuana Prices are Falling

After about 18 months of legal recreational marijuana sales in Colorado, the market keeps getting bigger. And now a new survey shows that pot prices in Colorado are actually declining, even as the number of customers increases.

One reason the cost of getting high is getting lower is because of increased competition from new dispensaries and the expansion of growing facilities. The limited number of dispensaries allowed to sell recreational marijuana during much of the first year of legal sales were able to keep prices relatively high, but prices have come down as more and more entrepreneurs get dispensary licenses and enter the market. At the same time, the report by Nicholas Colas, Convergex’s chief market strategist, notes that “it is also a natural result for any maturing industry as dispensaries try to find the market’s equilibrium price.”

Meanwhile, the state’s sales totals could receive a sizable boost on Sept. 16, when Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper will institute a one-day repeal of the 10% sales tax for recreational pot sales. After that one-day tax holiday, the sales tax will be permanently downsized to 8% in a move meant to further squeeze out the state’s black market for the drug, which is still illegal on the federal level.

Gee, I recall writing that this is exactly what would happen. If the tax is too high the incentive to cheat becomes enormous and since growing pot isnt exactly rocket science people would be bootlegging it and avoiding the tax.
My other prediction is that the criminal networks that developed to grow, import and distribute pot would not simply dry up and blow away but would start pushing harder drugs like cocaine and meth. I havent seen evidence of that yet but I am certain it is coming.

Make cocaine and meth legal. It isn't rocket science.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Cool, I need a new 12 quart stockpot.

 

[PratchettFan]

True. Prohibition never solves a problem, it only creates worse problems.

Cool story bro. Let's legalize heroin!

btw, China had a huge opium problem and outlawed it. Solved the problem. Until the Brits made them legalize it, then the problem came back. Then the solved it again. Put your bong down and get some air. You bozos are why pot smoking has had a rough road, drunks don't usually think they're smarter but they sober up. Potheads don't seem to sober up.

Yes. Legalize heroin. I don't know how much we have to spend to realize that making it illegal doesn't stop it, it just turns people into criminals, ties up our court system, makes the quality of the product dangerous and enriches criminal cartels. It doesn't solve the problem, it just makes the problem worse.

 

[Harry Dresden]

True. Prohibition never solves a problem, it only creates worse problems.

Cool story bro. Let's legalize heroin!

btw, China had a huge opium problem and outlawed it. Solved the problem. Until the Brits made them legalize it, then the problem came back. Then the solved it again. Put your bong down and get some air. You bozos are why pot smoking has had a rough road, drunks don't usually think they're smarter but they sober up. Potheads don't seem to sober up.

drunks sober up?....pot smokers dont?....another experienced person talking....

 

[Harry Dresden]

True. Prohibition never solves a problem, it only creates worse problems.

Cool story bro. Let's legalize heroin!

btw, China had a huge opium problem and outlawed it. Solved the problem. Until the Brits made them legalize it, then the problem came back. Then the solved it again. Put your bong down and get some air. You bozos are why pot smoking has had a rough road, drunks don't usually think they're smarter but they sober up. Potheads don't seem to sober up.

Prohibition comes with costs. And pretty severe ones. So you have to weight the costs of the medicine vs the cost of what its curing. And pot is pretty harmless. While the cost to individuals, our budgets and society is severe.

Its an strict Cost-benefit question. And prohibition of pot costs us more than it benefits us.

pot is only "harmless' to those who dont abuse the fuck out of it...otherwise you can have problems....and there will always be those who just have to go to extremes with things.....

 

[Syriusly]

It looks like the market is working itself out, that and the State realizes it has to drop taxes a bit to cut out the bottom end black market that is created when something legal is over-taxed (as opposed to the top end black market that is created by making something illegal)

Colorado s Recreational Marijuana Prices are Falling

After about 18 months of legal recreational marijuana sales in Colorado, the market keeps getting bigger. And now a new survey shows that pot prices in Colorado are actually declining, even as the number of customers increases.

One reason the cost of getting high is getting lower is because of increased competition from new dispensaries and the expansion of growing facilities. The limited number of dispensaries allowed to sell recreational marijuana during much of the first year of legal sales were able to keep prices relatively high, but prices have come down as more and more entrepreneurs get dispensary licenses and enter the market. At the same time, the report by Nicholas Colas, Convergex’s chief market strategist, notes that “it is also a natural result for any maturing industry as dispensaries try to find the market’s equilibrium price.”

Meanwhile, the state’s sales totals could receive a sizable boost on Sept. 16, when Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper will institute a one-day repeal of the 10% sales tax for recreational pot sales. After that one-day tax holiday, the sales tax will be permanently downsized to 8% in a move meant to further squeeze out the state’s black market for the drug, which is still illegal on the federal level.

Gee, I recall writing that this is exactly what would happen. If the tax is too high the incentive to cheat becomes enormous and since growing pot isnt exactly rocket science people would be bootlegging it and avoiding the tax.
My other prediction is that the criminal networks that developed to grow, import and distribute pot would not simply dry up and blow away but would start pushing harder drugs like cocaine and meth. I havent seen evidence of that yet but I am certain it is coming.

The criminal networks out of Mexico started switching over to harder drugs awhile ago. Prohibition didn't eliminate the Mob, but it eliminated one revenue flow for them- just as pot legalization will do to the cartels.

Not perfect- but still better than funding the Cartels with pot revenue.

 

[PratchettFan]

True. Prohibition never solves a problem, it only creates worse problems.

Cool story bro. Let's legalize heroin!

btw, China had a huge opium problem and outlawed it. Solved the problem. Until the Brits made them legalize it, then the problem came back. Then the solved it again. Put your bong down and get some air. You bozos are why pot smoking has had a rough road, drunks don't usually think they're smarter but they sober up. Potheads don't seem to sober up.

Prohibition comes with costs. And pretty severe ones. So you have to weight the costs of the medicine vs the cost of what its curing. And pot is pretty harmless. While the cost to individuals, our budgets and society is severe.

Its an strict Cost-benefit question. And prohibition of pot costs us more than it benefits us.

pot is only "harmless' to those who dont abuse the fuck out of it...otherwise you can have problems....and there will always be those who just have to go to extremes with things.....

So? You can say the same thing about doughnuts. And abusing doughnuts is probably more destructive to one's health.

 

[The Rabbi]

It looks like the market is working itself out, that and the State realizes it has to drop taxes a bit to cut out the bottom end black market that is created when something legal is over-taxed (as opposed to the top end black market that is created by making something illegal)

Colorado s Recreational Marijuana Prices are Falling

After about 18 months of legal recreational marijuana sales in Colorado, the market keeps getting bigger. And now a new survey shows that pot prices in Colorado are actually declining, even as the number of customers increases.

One reason the cost of getting high is getting lower is because of increased competition from new dispensaries and the expansion of growing facilities. The limited number of dispensaries allowed to sell recreational marijuana during much of the first year of legal sales were able to keep prices relatively high, but prices have come down as more and more entrepreneurs get dispensary licenses and enter the market. At the same time, the report by Nicholas Colas, Convergex’s chief market strategist, notes that “it is also a natural result for any maturing industry as dispensaries try to find the market’s equilibrium price.”

Meanwhile, the state’s sales totals could receive a sizable boost on Sept. 16, when Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper will institute a one-day repeal of the 10% sales tax for recreational pot sales. After that one-day tax holiday, the sales tax will be permanently downsized to 8% in a move meant to further squeeze out the state’s black market for the drug, which is still illegal on the federal level.

Gee, I recall writing that this is exactly what would happen. If the tax is too high the incentive to cheat becomes enormous and since growing pot isnt exactly rocket science people would be bootlegging it and avoiding the tax.
My other prediction is that the criminal networks that developed to grow, import and distribute pot would not simply dry up and blow away but would start pushing harder drugs like cocaine and meth. I havent seen evidence of that yet but I am certain it is coming.

Make cocaine and meth legal. It isn't rocket science.

And crack too!

 

[PratchettFan]

It looks like the market is working itself out, that and the State realizes it has to drop taxes a bit to cut out the bottom end black market that is created when something legal is over-taxed (as opposed to the top end black market that is created by making something illegal)

Colorado s Recreational Marijuana Prices are Falling

After about 18 months of legal recreational marijuana sales in Colorado, the market keeps getting bigger. And now a new survey shows that pot prices in Colorado are actually declining, even as the number of customers increases.

One reason the cost of getting high is getting lower is because of increased competition from new dispensaries and the expansion of growing facilities. The limited number of dispensaries allowed to sell recreational marijuana during much of the first year of legal sales were able to keep prices relatively high, but prices have come down as more and more entrepreneurs get dispensary licenses and enter the market. At the same time, the report by Nicholas Colas, Convergex’s chief market strategist, notes that “it is also a natural result for any maturing industry as dispensaries try to find the market’s equilibrium price.”

Meanwhile, the state’s sales totals could receive a sizable boost on Sept. 16, when Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper will institute a one-day repeal of the 10% sales tax for recreational pot sales. After that one-day tax holiday, the sales tax will be permanently downsized to 8% in a move meant to further squeeze out the state’s black market for the drug, which is still illegal on the federal level.

Gee, I recall writing that this is exactly what would happen. If the tax is too high the incentive to cheat becomes enormous and since growing pot isnt exactly rocket science people would be bootlegging it and avoiding the tax.
My other prediction is that the criminal networks that developed to grow, import and distribute pot would not simply dry up and blow away but would start pushing harder drugs like cocaine and meth. I havent seen evidence of that yet but I am certain it is coming.

Make cocaine and meth legal. It isn't rocket science.

And crack too!

Yes.

 

[Harry Dresden]

True. Prohibition never solves a problem, it only creates worse problems.

Cool story bro. Let's legalize heroin!

btw, China had a huge opium problem and outlawed it. Solved the problem. Until the Brits made them legalize it, then the problem came back. Then the solved it again. Put your bong down and get some air. You bozos are why pot smoking has had a rough road, drunks don't usually think they're smarter but they sober up. Potheads don't seem to sober up.

Prohibition comes with costs. And pretty severe ones. So you have to weight the costs of the medicine vs the cost of what its curing. And pot is pretty harmless. While the cost to individuals, our budgets and society is severe.

Its an strict Cost-benefit question. And prohibition of pot costs us more than it benefits us.

pot is only "harmless' to those who dont abuse the fuck out of it...otherwise you can have problems....and there will always be those who just have to go to extremes with things.....

So? You can say the same thing about doughnuts. And abusing doughnuts is probably more destructive to one's health.

so?...you do realize its the abusers who make people like tipsy think its worse than alcohol.....they are the examples they always use for their examples of why its bad....just sayin....

 

[IsaacNewton]

There is so much weed and hash in Spokane that the retail pot stores are only getting out of state customers from Idaho and Montana. Us locals have all the free weed we can use. It's weedtopia around here. Never seen anything like it. It's really great because there are no gangs making money on it.

Will you please stop rubbing your good fortune in the rest of our faces!! LOL We are waiting for it to be legalized here.

"It's weedtopia around here." FINE. Why don't you just say "we have a huge overabundance of Mila Kunis lookalikes and they date anyone with a pulse."

I'm in California and we have an overabundance of dry dirt and wildfires. Of course, even if mj was legal here it would all be burning right now.

Not from the fires but because everyone would want to smoke it before the fires got to it!

 

[PratchettFan]

True. Prohibition never solves a problem, it only creates worse problems.

Cool story bro. Let's legalize heroin!

btw, China had a huge opium problem and outlawed it. Solved the problem. Until the Brits made them legalize it, then the problem came back. Then the solved it again. Put your bong down and get some air. You bozos are why pot smoking has had a rough road, drunks don't usually think they're smarter but they sober up. Potheads don't seem to sober up.

Prohibition comes with costs. And pretty severe ones. So you have to weight the costs of the medicine vs the cost of what its curing. And pot is pretty harmless. While the cost to individuals, our budgets and society is severe.

Its an strict Cost-benefit question. And prohibition of pot costs us more than it benefits us.

pot is only "harmless' to those who dont abuse the fuck out of it...otherwise you can have problems....and there will always be those who just have to go to extremes with things.....

So? You can say the same thing about doughnuts. And abusing doughnuts is probably more destructive to one's health.

so?...you do realize its the abusers who make people like tipsy think its worse than alcohol.....they are the examples they always use for their examples of why its bad....just sayin....

Doesn't matter. The abuser of alcohol made people enact the 18th amendment. Which fueled the rise of the mafia. If a law only makes things worse, it should be repealed.

 

[Flash Farley]

There is so much weed and hash in Spokane that the retail pot stores are only getting out of state customers from Idaho and Montana. Us locals have all the free weed we can use. It's weedtopia around here. Never seen anything like it. It's really great because there are no gangs making money on it.

Will you please stop rubbing your good fortune in the rest of our faces!! LOL We are waiting for it to be legalized here.

"It's weedtopia around here." FINE. Why don't you just say "we have a huge overabundance of Mila Kunis lookalikes and they date anyone with a pulse."

I'm in California and we have an overabundance of dry dirt and wildfires. Of course, even if mj was legal here it would all be burning right now.

Not from the fires but because everyone would want to smoke it before the fires got to it!

Speaking of California, a friend from Humboldt County just visited and left a 1/2 pound. Haha.

 

[IsaacNewton]

There is so much weed and hash in Spokane that the retail pot stores are only getting out of state customers from Idaho and Montana. Us locals have all the free weed we can use. It's weedtopia around here. Never seen anything like it. It's really great because there are no gangs making money on it.

Will you please stop rubbing your good fortune in the rest of our faces!! LOL We are waiting for it to be legalized here.

"It's weedtopia around here." FINE. Why don't you just say "we have a huge overabundance of Mila Kunis lookalikes and they date anyone with a pulse."

I'm in California and we have an overabundance of dry dirt and wildfires. Of course, even if mj was legal here it would all be burning right now.

Not from the fires but because everyone would want to smoke it before the fires got to it!

Speaking of California, a friend from Humboldt County just visited and left a 1/2 pound. Haha.

Humboldt, known for growing good sh#$. And uh, a half pound is a good weekend with friends. Come on, CA is supposed to lead in this stuff, wth.

 

[martybegan]

It looks like the market is working itself out, that and the State realizes it has to drop taxes a bit to cut out the bottom end black market that is created when something legal is over-taxed (as opposed to the top end black market that is created by making something illegal)

Colorado s Recreational Marijuana Prices are Falling

Well I guess it's time for the feds to get involved, this has to be effecting interstate commerce. Maybe they need to establish an allotment system for the growers like they have for tobacco.

In light of the recent Supreme Court Decision, that might not be possible.

Well the same can be accomplished by having the DEA raid selective growers, where's there a will................

i see a decided lack of will on this. I have a feeling Obama is going to punt this to the next president.

Its pot. Pretty harmless as drugs go. The only rational reason I could see Obama enforcing this would be on a supply basis across the border driving crime in Mexico......or an 'integrity of the law' argument.

The former resolved by sweet, sweet home grown green. The latter by recognizing that its a stupid law.

I see more damage done to the integrity of the law in the fact that so many people ignore pot laws on a daily basis.

 

[martybegan]

It looks like the market is working itself out, that and the State realizes it has to drop taxes a bit to cut out the bottom end black market that is created when something legal is over-taxed (as opposed to the top end black market that is created by making something illegal)

Colorado s Recreational Marijuana Prices are Falling

After about 18 months of legal recreational marijuana sales in Colorado, the market keeps getting bigger. And now a new survey shows that pot prices in Colorado are actually declining, even as the number of customers increases.

One reason the cost of getting high is getting lower is because of increased competition from new dispensaries and the expansion of growing facilities. The limited number of dispensaries allowed to sell recreational marijuana during much of the first year of legal sales were able to keep prices relatively high, but prices have come down as more and more entrepreneurs get dispensary licenses and enter the market. At the same time, the report by Nicholas Colas, Convergex’s chief market strategist, notes that “it is also a natural result for any maturing industry as dispensaries try to find the market’s equilibrium price.”

Meanwhile, the state’s sales totals could receive a sizable boost on Sept. 16, when Colorado Governor John Hickenlooper will institute a one-day repeal of the 10% sales tax for recreational pot sales. After that one-day tax holiday, the sales tax will be permanently downsized to 8% in a move meant to further squeeze out the state’s black market for the drug, which is still illegal on the federal level.

Gee, I recall writing that this is exactly what would happen. If the tax is too high the incentive to cheat becomes enormous and since growing pot isnt exactly rocket science people would be bootlegging it and avoiding the tax.
My other prediction is that the criminal networks that developed to grow, import and distribute pot would not simply dry up and blow away but would start pushing harder drugs like cocaine and meth. I havent seen evidence of that yet but I am certain it is coming.

Make cocaine and meth legal. It isn't rocket science.

Lets start with pot first.