‘Collusion Truthers’ Joins Flat Earthers, 9-11 Truthers

[Oddball]

Got it. We now know you cannot engage what you know to be true. Trump got off on a technicality. Fact one! Barr, who was not qualified to decide obstruction because he was never part of the investigation, fact two. And Rosenstein, the poor thing got caught up in Trump's own obstruction when he wrote the firing letter on Comey telling the world it was about the Clinton emails, only to later find out Trump said it was about Russia. So, to cover his ass, he decided there was no obstruction. All this did was confirm everything the Left has been saying. Collusion and obstruction did happen, and all of that is tied into all the other crimes Trump committed that has been handed off to other districts.

If what I'm saying were not true, people like Flynn would have never been prosecuted. Let that sink in.

 

[OODA_Loop]

Mueller did not clear Trump of obstruction. That is a fact.

Mueller did not say there is evidence of collusion. Which he would have. That is a fact.

 

[August West]

Collusion no: Corruption? Plenty.
No collusion, plenty of corruption: Trump is not in the clear | Richard Wolffe

 

[Oldstyle]

Libtards are kinda quiet today!

The conspiracy did happen, and Mueller couldn't indict because they never were able to confirm if Veselnytskaya was a government official or not. That's the only thing that saved Trump on the conspiracy. And so, I was right. The conspiracy did happen, minus the proven government official that the Trump campaign could have cared less about or not, that wasn't proven was present. So, I accept Mueller's findings, and acknowledge Trump's guilt, because they ended up having to lie about the incident. They had no idea the lawyer was working for the government or not, and didn't care. They would have accepted the information from a three legged Gargoyle if it had given the information to them at the time.

You want to look into Veselnytskaya, BWK? Let's do that! Let's examine how that meeting REALLY took place! Let's get Glenn Simpson under oath and ask him what it is he talked about when he met with Veselnytskaya both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and the day after the meeting! Let's get the State Department officials who gave Veselnytskaya a special visa "pardon" so she could enter the US to have that meeting with Trump Jr under oath and ask them who it was that pushed for that! Let's treat you liberals to the same level of scrutiny that Donald Trump has endured for the past two years and see just how corrupt the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House WERE during this last election!

The special Visa was for defending a client, not to meet with Glenn Simpson. Next!

And yet she DID meet with Glenn Simpson...the man that Hillary Clinton hired to smear Donald Trump...both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and then the day after the meeting! How do you explain that, BWK?

 

[Oldstyle]

Collusion no: Corruption? Plenty.
No collusion, plenty of corruption: Trump is not in the clear | Richard Wolffe

Richard Wolfe? Really, August? So after two plus years of Wolfe claiming collusion took place...now it's "corruption" that's the problem? You Trump haters get more pathetic with each passing year.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

And yet she DID meet with Glenn Simpson...the man that Hillary Clinton hired to smear Donald Trump...both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and then the day after the meeting! How do you explain that, BWK?

Moron trolls don't explain. They lie, they obfuscate, they agitate, they deny, they change the subject...but they don't explain.

 

[Eric Arthur Blair]

Collusion no: Corruption? Plenty.
No collusion, plenty of corruption: Trump is not in the clear | Richard Wolffe

Change the subject when your previous claims are found to be a lie.
Good move.

 

[BWK]

Libtards are kinda quiet today!

The conspiracy did happen, and Mueller couldn't indict because they never were able to confirm if Veselnytskaya was a government official or not. That's the only thing that saved Trump on the conspiracy. And so, I was right. The conspiracy did happen, minus the proven government official that the Trump campaign could have cared less about or not, that wasn't proven was present. So, I accept Mueller's findings, and acknowledge Trump's guilt, because they ended up having to lie about the incident. They had no idea the lawyer was working for the government or not, and didn't care. They would have accepted the information from a three legged Gargoyle if it had given the information to them at the time.

You want to look into Veselnytskaya, BWK? Let's do that! Let's examine how that meeting REALLY took place! Let's get Glenn Simpson under oath and ask him what it is he talked about when he met with Veselnytskaya both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and the day after the meeting! Let's get the State Department officials who gave Veselnytskaya a special visa "pardon" so she could enter the US to have that meeting with Trump Jr under oath and ask them who it was that pushed for that! Let's treat you liberals to the same level of scrutiny that Donald Trump has endured for the past two years and see just how corrupt the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House WERE during this last election!

The special Visa was for defending a client, not to meet with Glenn Simpson. Next!

And yet she DID meet with Glenn Simpson...the man that Hillary Clinton hired to smear Donald Trump...both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and then the day after the meeting! How do you explain that, BWK?

And? If she did, nothing was ever reported as to what, if any info was delivered to Simpson. Not to mention, the info for the Dossier came from Christopher Steele and his spies, that Clinton used, not from Russia.

And by the way, your link proving the meeting with the lawyer and Simpson is?

 

[BWK]

And yet she DID meet with Glenn Simpson...the man that Hillary Clinton hired to smear Donald Trump...both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and then the day after the meeting! How do you explain that, BWK?

Moron trolls don't explain. They lie, they obfuscate, they agitate, they deny, they change the subject...but they don't explain.

I've already explained, and there are no counter arguments. Collusion was proven, but it couldn't be indicted because the lack of knowing whether the lawyer was working with the government of Russia. Some said yes, some said no. No indictments for me, makes sense. I agree with Mueller on that front. It doesn't mean however, that the Trump campaign wasn't motivated, because they attended the meeting. They didn't know or cared who the information came from. Which is why they continued to obstruct by lying about what the meeting was about ,after the election. So yes, they did collude. As a matter of fact, they still are to this day, with their foreign business interests.

 

[BWK]

Collusion no: Corruption? Plenty.
No collusion, plenty of corruption: Trump is not in the clear | Richard Wolffe

Richard Wolfe? Really, August? So after two plus years of Wolfe claiming collusion took place...now it's "corruption" that's the problem? You Trump haters get more pathetic with each passing year.

Collusion did take place. It just wasn't enough to indict because of the question of the lawyer and her government status. That could have easily gone the other way. And we still don't know? But the motive to get dirt from "anybody" was the Trump campaigns biggest motive.

 

[BWK]

And remember, Mueller did not clear Trump of obstruction. There are no assumptions. They are just facts you cannot debate.

No one is letting anything go, because they have the truth on their side. Everyone was skeptical about collusion, even though it did in fact happen. A technicality does not mean the motive was not there. They knew what they were doing was wrong because they lied about everything. That's a proven fact.

Keep up with this reasoning, and keep up with this fight. All you are doling is help Trump get re-elected.

And fact", I don't think it means what you think it means.

Trump won't be re-elected because of his criminal liability.

Another opinion which in your addled mind you think of as fact.

Are you telling us he is not criminally liable?

Yes. One has to prove criminal liability in a court of law, and there is no evidence to that, except for the fake evidence you have created in your own empty head.

So, the fact that Trump and Jr. had signed checks to pay Cohen to reimburse him for his payments to porn stars, that Cohen went to jail for, and Trump and Jr. have no criminal liability for the same crime? You have to explain that reasoning? This I have to read. I'll be waiting.

 

[martybegan]

Keep up with this reasoning, and keep up with this fight. All you are doling is help Trump get re-elected.

And fact", I don't think it means what you think it means.

Trump won't be re-elected because of his criminal liability.

Another opinion which in your addled mind you think of as fact.

Are you telling us he is not criminally liable?

Yes. One has to prove criminal liability in a court of law, and there is no evidence to that, except for the fake evidence you have created in your own empty head.

So, the fact that Trump and Jr. had signed checks to pay Cohen to reimburse him for his payments to porn stars, that Cohen went to jail for, and Trump and Jr. have no criminal liability for the same crime? You have to explain that reasoning? This I have to read. I'll be waiting.

It's up to a prosecutor to prove a crime. All you have is supposition and innuendo.

 

[Biff_Poindexter]

Best thing for people to do is accept the findings of the report and move on........

If you want to defeat Trump, defeat him at the ballot box....

and if that happens, of course trumpers will accept the results of that election without yelling fraud, collusion, rigged, etc......of course not, these are trumpers -- they have ZERO principles..

 

[Soupnazi630]

Are you trying to tell us you cannot engage?

I am trying to tell you that YOU are not worth engaging beyond ridicule.

I somehow doubt that. You wouldn't have responded to begin with if that is the case.

You know that what I say is true. Trump gettinmg off on a technicality for a conspiracy, is nothing to high five about.

No, I enjoy responding as above to useless troll-twats like you.

Your presumption is not based on any evidence, only your own TDS.

Got it. We now know you cannot engage what you know to be true. Trump got off on a technicality. Fact one! Barr, who was not qualified to decide obstruction because he was never part of the investigation, fact two. And Rosenstein, the poor thing got caught up in Trump's own obstruction when he wrote the firing letter on Comey telling the world it was about the Clinton emails, only to later find out Trump said it was about Russia. So, to cover his ass, he decided there was no obstruction. All this did was confirm everything the Left has been saying. Collusion and obstruction did happen, and all of that is tied into all the other crimes Trump committed that has been handed off to other districts.

If what I'm saying were not true, people like Flynn would have never been prosecuted. Let that sink in.

Wrong

You know what you are saying is not true.

There was simply no evidence of collusion and that is fact you cannot refute

 

[Oldstyle]

Libtards are kinda quiet today!

The conspiracy did happen, and Mueller couldn't indict because they never were able to confirm if Veselnytskaya was a government official or not. That's the only thing that saved Trump on the conspiracy. And so, I was right. The conspiracy did happen, minus the proven government official that the Trump campaign could have cared less about or not, that wasn't proven was present. So, I accept Mueller's findings, and acknowledge Trump's guilt, because they ended up having to lie about the incident. They had no idea the lawyer was working for the government or not, and didn't care. They would have accepted the information from a three legged Gargoyle if it had given the information to them at the time.

You want to look into Veselnytskaya, BWK? Let's do that! Let's examine how that meeting REALLY took place! Let's get Glenn Simpson under oath and ask him what it is he talked about when he met with Veselnytskaya both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and the day after the meeting! Let's get the State Department officials who gave Veselnytskaya a special visa "pardon" so she could enter the US to have that meeting with Trump Jr under oath and ask them who it was that pushed for that! Let's treat you liberals to the same level of scrutiny that Donald Trump has endured for the past two years and see just how corrupt the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House WERE during this last election!

The special Visa was for defending a client, not to meet with Glenn Simpson. Next!

And yet she DID meet with Glenn Simpson...the man that Hillary Clinton hired to smear Donald Trump...both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and then the day after the meeting! How do you explain that, BWK?

And? If she did, nothing was ever reported as to what, if any info was delivered to Simpson. Not to mention, the info for the Dossier came from Christopher Steele and his spies, that Clinton used, not from Russia.

And by the way, your link proving the meeting with the lawyer and Simpson is?

You really don't know much about this subject...do you, BWK? The Russians I'm talking about are the ones that Steele used as his "sources" inside of the Kremlin! The Russians that Steele used to "leak" the dossiers.

The meetings between the Russian lawyer, Veselnytskaya and Simpson wasn't to deliver information. It's rather obvious that the two meetings were to coordinate the Trump Tower meeting and then leak that story to compliant news organizations as "proof" that the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russian government. The Trump Tower meeting turns out to be nothing but yet another political dirty trick pulled off by Glenn Simpson at the behest of the Clinton campaign in order to smear Trump before the election.

 

[BWK]

Are you trying to tell us you cannot engage?

I am trying to tell you that YOU are not worth engaging beyond ridicule.

I somehow doubt that. You wouldn't have responded to begin with if that is the case.

You know that what I say is true. Trump gettinmg off on a technicality for a conspiracy, is nothing to high five about.

No, I enjoy responding as above to useless troll-twats like you.

Your presumption is not based on any evidence, only your own TDS.

Got it. We now know you cannot engage what you know to be true. Trump got off on a technicality. Fact one! Barr, who was not qualified to decide obstruction because he was never part of the investigation, fact two. And Rosenstein, the poor thing got caught up in Trump's own obstruction when he wrote the firing letter on Comey telling the world it was about the Clinton emails, only to later find out Trump said it was about Russia. So, to cover his ass, he decided there was no obstruction. All this did was confirm everything the Left has been saying. Collusion and obstruction did happen, and all of that is tied into all the other crimes Trump committed that has been handed off to other districts.

If what I'm saying were not true, people like Flynn would have never been prosecuted. Let that sink in.

Wrong

You know what you are saying is not true.

There was simply no evidence of collusion and that is fact you cannot refute

There was evidence. Just not enough to convict. The prosecution needed to know that the lawyer was a government agent. They never did. Had it been confirmed, Trump would have been found guilty. The campaign didn't know and didn't care. They got lucky on that front, but they still obstructed, once Trump won the election, because we have six Trump advisors going to jail or have already gone to jail lying about Russia. So, Russia and Trump are very real and that has been proven.

And now we have Barr trying to make the decision on obstruction, when that is Congress's job. Barr is part of the executive. He can't decide his own oversight or Trump's.

 

[BWK]

The conspiracy did happen, and Mueller couldn't indict because they never were able to confirm if Veselnytskaya was a government official or not. That's the only thing that saved Trump on the conspiracy. And so, I was right. The conspiracy did happen, minus the proven government official that the Trump campaign could have cared less about or not, that wasn't proven was present. So, I accept Mueller's findings, and acknowledge Trump's guilt, because they ended up having to lie about the incident. They had no idea the lawyer was working for the government or not, and didn't care. They would have accepted the information from a three legged Gargoyle if it had given the information to them at the time.

You want to look into Veselnytskaya, BWK? Let's do that! Let's examine how that meeting REALLY took place! Let's get Glenn Simpson under oath and ask him what it is he talked about when he met with Veselnytskaya both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and the day after the meeting! Let's get the State Department officials who gave Veselnytskaya a special visa "pardon" so she could enter the US to have that meeting with Trump Jr under oath and ask them who it was that pushed for that! Let's treat you liberals to the same level of scrutiny that Donald Trump has endured for the past two years and see just how corrupt the Clinton campaign and the Obama White House WERE during this last election!

The special Visa was for defending a client, not to meet with Glenn Simpson. Next!

And yet she DID meet with Glenn Simpson...the man that Hillary Clinton hired to smear Donald Trump...both the day before the Trump Tower meeting and then the day after the meeting! How do you explain that, BWK?

And? If she did, nothing was ever reported as to what, if any info was delivered to Simpson. Not to mention, the info for the Dossier came from Christopher Steele and his spies, that Clinton used, not from Russia.

And by the way, your link proving the meeting with the lawyer and Simpson is?

You really don't know much about this subject...do you, BWK? The Russians I'm talking about are the ones that Steele used as his "sources" inside of the Kremlin! The Russians that Steele used to "leak" the dossiers.

The meetings between the Russian lawyer, Veselnytskaya and Simpson wasn't to deliver information. It's rather obvious that the two meetings were to coordinate the Trump Tower meeting and then leak that story to compliant news organizations as "proof" that the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russian government. The Trump Tower meeting turns out to be nothing but yet another political dirty trick pulled off by Glenn Simpson at the behest of the Clinton campaign in order to smear Trump before the election.

Do you have proof of that? No! For the same reason Mueller couldn't find the campaign guilty of collusion via the lawyers status, even though they are guilty.

Steele got his info from Russia, through his own network of spies.

 

[Soupnazi630]

I am trying to tell you that YOU are not worth engaging beyond ridicule.

I somehow doubt that. You wouldn't have responded to begin with if that is the case.

You know that what I say is true. Trump gettinmg off on a technicality for a conspiracy, is nothing to high five about.

No, I enjoy responding as above to useless troll-twats like you.

Your presumption is not based on any evidence, only your own TDS.

Got it. We now know you cannot engage what you know to be true. Trump got off on a technicality. Fact one! Barr, who was not qualified to decide obstruction because he was never part of the investigation, fact two. And Rosenstein, the poor thing got caught up in Trump's own obstruction when he wrote the firing letter on Comey telling the world it was about the Clinton emails, only to later find out Trump said it was about Russia. So, to cover his ass, he decided there was no obstruction. All this did was confirm everything the Left has been saying. Collusion and obstruction did happen, and all of that is tied into all the other crimes Trump committed that has been handed off to other districts.

If what I'm saying were not true, people like Flynn would have never been prosecuted. Let that sink in.

Wrong

You know what you are saying is not true.

There was simply no evidence of collusion and that is fact you cannot refute

There was evidence. Just not enough to convict. The prosecution needed to know that the lawyer was a government agent. They never did. Had it been confirmed, Trump would have been found guilty. The campaign didn't know and didn't care. They got lucky on that front, but they still obstructed, once Trump won the election, because we have six Trump advisors going to jail or have already gone to jail lying about Russia. So, Russia and Trump are very real and that has been proven.

And now we have Barr trying to make the decision on obstruction, when that is Congress's job. Barr is part of the executive. He can't decide his own oversight or Trump's.

There is no evidence of collusion which means he was not even indicted on it.

 

[Rustic]