College degree

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    You wouldn't know a factual statement if it had a dick and slapped you in the face with it.

    I grew up in a time when kids were told to get out of the house and if they came home before dinner, it better be raining or they better be sick, otherwise we'd get punished.

    Bragging about having a lack of responsibility or class like you have, by saying you'd smack a student, has nothing to do with parents... it has to do with you, and your lack of a moral compass.
     
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    Exactly. I moved all over the place. From Ygnacio Valley to Santa Cruz to San Francisco to Ashland Oregon to Salt Lake City to Oklahoma to New Orleans to Germany and now Chicago and here I stayed.
    And I love it here.
     
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    Hmm, Republicans always see violence as the way to solve problems. Maybe that's why Red States are such economic basket cases. I wonder if the two are related?
     
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    And yet the most violent cities are ALL in blue states. St Louis,NYC,Chicago,Los Angeles...I can continue.
     
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    A buddy's father was a history professor at a Maryland university. Before his father started teaching, he served about six years with the State Department--all of it in South Vietnam during the mid 60's. My buddy still suspects his father of having worked for the CIA. Who knows? Ice cold dude though. Myself? I took a Civil Engineering track to a Master's through Army Continuing Education while on active duty, using the ACF and G.I. Bill, with a co-major in Military History. Back then, early to mid-90's--the total amount provided by the Army for school was $25, 000 and some change. Have you considered enlisting or doing ROTC?

    A few years back I enrolled in a psychology program at a local community college just to spend more time with my fiancé who had also gone back to school (in reality, I couldn't let her get smarter than me). A couple of years later I transferred to a Baltimore university to pursue a political psychology, political philosophy track which I plan to follow all the way. With luck I'll be less than senior citizen age before I finish up. My long term career goal, at the head of over 27 years in uniform, changes from time to time but tends to cycle back. The fiancé wants me to pursue a private clinical practice, yet to me that sounds boring, frankly. Sometimes I want to run for some kind of office--the Masons seem to think I'm swell so there's that; other times I think about teaching--eventually, after I retire from the Army.

    Whatever you decide, do try to see it through to conclusion. I am 45 and back in school, and enjoy the hell out of it, in principal--even if not so much in the prevailing youth pop culture.
     
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    There is far more to library work than shelving books. In fact, few librarians shelve books these days. They manage libraries and information. Today library science is about information, not books. Librarians acquire, organize, and disseminate information.

    Information architecture is a fast growing non-library field that is a good match for librarians looking to expand their career horizons. At its core, the field of Information Architecture is concerned with helping people (users) find what they’re looking for, typically in an online or application environment which is what research librarians do manually. Information architects are often involve in designing and specifying systems to bring information to user.

    A problem all to common in large corporations is finding needed information, not just data which may be spread over thousands of locations scattered all over the world.
     
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    Education in history and a dozen other humanities and social sciences are great background for people pulling in 7 and 8 digit salaries but not worth a damn for those struggling to pay off a college loan and support a family.
     
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    I spent the better part of a decade traveling and working my way through China, Japan, and South Korea. I would arrive in a new city, find a job somehow, and set out to learn the people, traditions, faiths, and martial arts of the area. Stay for a year or two, learn as much as I could and meet as many people as I could, then move on.
     
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    The biggest problem is like 30+ years ago you could go to college and get a degree in anything and still wind up in a good job after college regardless if it had anything to do with your major. Back then only the top kids went to college and you needed goid SAT scores to get in. So back then an employer would even someone with a degree in theatre as a manager right out of college because back then if you had a degree you were labeled smart and capable and employers knew only the brightest students could go to college. Since there are more college grads and any average Joe with just average SAT scores can get a degree now it really devalued the college degree.

    Students who go to college lose sight of why they are going to begin with which is to make more money. If vocational school an apprenticeship or a trade school will lead to more money then getting a history degree from an unranked university with low SAT requirements they chose the degree anyway because they need that degree just to satisfy their parents ego.

    I know a guy with degree in music from Harvard landed 100k yr job in business out college. Would not been same if he went to Robert Morris college.
     
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    The two major factors behind the drive for a college education are automation and the global economy. 60% of lost jobs in manufacturing between 1950 and 2000 is attributed to automation. A Ball State University study found that 87% of the job losses in manufacturing from 2000 to 2010 were due to automation and most of the remainder were due to globalization and trade. To a lesser degree we have see job losses in construction and service sector due to automation. However, in all sectors, the tend is toward more automation. By 2024, it's projected that that over 20 million people will lose their jobs due to automation.

    No wonder parents are pushing their kids into college. Unfortunately, that is just going to lead to more highly educated low income workers. I blame this on the economic studies in 70's and 80's which foresaw a prosperous working class if we could just provided enough higher education for everyone.
     
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