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As many of you are aware the person or persons responsible for the first dump of emails detailing the shenanigans within the climatology community has done it again. Thousands more emails reinforce the vidence of the lack of ethics and systemic scientific fraud within that community.
I found this email from Dr. Douglas Maraun to be particularly relevent. At what point does the scientific community finally disown these fools?
-How should we deal with flaws inside the climate community? I think,
that our reaction on the errors found in Mike Manns work were not
especially honest.
You do realise that the original so called "climategate" was debunked.. by conservatives themselves...
Exclusive: Top Climate Scientist's Exoneration Won't Be The Last Word | Fox News
But the final say will be in the hands of a skeptical inspector general at the National Science Foundation, the primary funder of the research into global warming. According to published documents obtained by FoxNews.com, the IG must determine whether Penn State's investigation was adequate.
Fox News even touted that the investigation by the NSF would be the final nail in the coffin for the evil scientists... but...
Climate-Change Scientist Cleared in Closing of U.S. Data-Altering Inquiry - Bloomberg
Wups!
And even the Senator Inhofe requested investigation into the case came out as... a utter defeat for those promoting the Climategate myth!
Inspector General
Darn....
but the biggest nail in the coffin of the myth came from an independent Berkeley analysis....
BBC News - Global warming 'confirmed' by independent study
The Berkeley Earth Project has used new methods and some new data, but finds the same warming trend seen by groups such as the UK Met Office and Nasa.
And guess who funded this project?... Among them the climate sceptics... Koch Brothers.
Funding came from a number of sources, including charitable foundations maintained by the Koch brothers, the billionaire US industrialists, who have also donated large sums to organisations lobbying against acceptance of man-made global warming.
So the myth of Climategate has been utterly debunked and releasing more emails only adds to the criminal charges against the people who stole the emails in the first place.
You're either a liar, a Kool-Aid snorting hack, or a total ignoramus.So the myth of Climategate has been utterly debunked and releasing more emails only adds to the criminal charges against the people who stole the emails in the first place.
8.15 PM UPDATE: The Hadley CRU director admits the emails seem to be genuine:
The director of Britain’s leading Climate Research Unit, Phil Jones, has told Investigate magazine’s TGIF Edition tonight ..."It was a hacker. We were aware of this about three or four days ago that someone had hacked into our system and taken and copied loads of data files and emails."…
TGIF asked Jones about the controversial email discussing “hiding the decline”, and Jones explained what he was trying to say….
So the 1079 emails and 72 documents seem indeed evidence of a scandal involving most of the most prominent scientists pushing the man-made warming theory - a scandal that is one of the greatest in modern science. I’ve been adding some of the most astonishing in updates below - emails suggesting conspiracy, collusion in exaggerating warming data, possibly illegal destruction of embarrassing information, organised resistance to disclosure, manipulation of data, private admissions of flaws in their public claims and much more. If it is as it now seems, never again will “peer review” be used to shout down sceptics.
This is clearly not the work of some hacker, but of an insider who’s now blown the whistle.
I pick "D"... all of the above.You're either a liar, a Kool-Aid snorting hack, or a total ignoramus.
Wow, 1105 posts there! That was quite a discussion that went on for a long time. That should be on my reading list for some time to come. I did copy your first link from the Climategate article. The conversations do not inspire a lot of confidence in integrity, except for the one who objected to the obfuscation of info. Thanks, Oddball.But we did know in the original e-mail and computer code dump...It's just that we don't have an honest media anymore.
Well, I'm glad y0u knew about it. I read a lot of news stories, and I didn't know about it until it was more widely known, maybe a year or two ago? Vice-President Gore had been preaching global warming since the election 2000 didn't go his way. At first, I wondered, how could it be that nothing I had read before blamed mankind, except at the time ozone was claimed to be a problem, and I heard a cantankerous 2-sided argument coming out of the scientific community.
I started the original thread on the topic....The links to the original stories and full listing of the e-mails and Harry Read Me code are in it.
http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/95445-the-warmergate-scandal-74.html
Fascinating how the ignoramouses are allways braying the end of 'global warming'. Yet, the glaciers keep receding, the ice caps continue to melt, and each decade is warmer than the last.
These people value their 'Conservative' ideology far more than reality or truth. Or their own childrens future.
They investigated themselves. Would you have been as trusting if Nixon investigated Watergate?So the myth of Climategate has been utterly debunked and releasing more emails only adds to the criminal charges against the people who stole the emails in the first place.
They investigated themselves. Would you have been as trusting if Nixon investigated Watergate?So the myth of Climategate has been utterly debunked and releasing more emails only adds to the criminal charges against the people who stole the emails in the first place.
And the sheep will then dutifully claim everything is kosher.Considering it's you and your fellow cultists who are ignoring the information in these emails, it looks like the "willfully ignorant ass" label is more accurately yours.And the willfully ignorant asses bray out their nonsense once more.
The warmists will create some more committees stacked with warmist goons to "investigate" the emails and dub them to be proof of nothing.
Fascinating how the ignoramouses are allways braying the end of 'global warming'. Yet, the glaciers keep receding, the ice caps continue to melt, and each decade is warmer than the last.
These people value their 'Conservative' ideology far more than reality or truth. Or their own childrens future.
yeah...and? What's the point? Climate changes all the time. Better warmer like it is now than under a mile of ice like we were a short while ago.
You got some real science, otherwise STFU, Komrade
Handy, isn't it? Global warming makes it hotter, colder, wetter, dryer -- all at the same time.Fascinating how the ignoramouses are allways braying the end of 'global warming'. Yet, the glaciers keep receding, the ice caps continue to melt, and each decade is warmer than the last.
Fear-mongering. It's what emotional people with no facts or logic do.These people value their 'Conservative' ideology far more than reality or truth. Or their own childrens future.
And the sheep will then dutifully claim everything is kosher.Considering it's you and your fellow cultists who are ignoring the information in these emails, it looks like the "willfully ignorant ass" label is more accurately yours.
The warmists will create some more committees stacked with warmist goons to "investigate" the emails and dub them to be proof of nothing.
Right, Pete, Roxy?
They investigated themselves. Would you have been as trusting if Nixon investigated Watergate?So the myth of Climategate has been utterly debunked and releasing more emails only adds to the criminal charges against the people who stole the emails in the first place.
Dumb ass, other scientists investigated them. And exonerated them. Other politicians investigated Nixon, and told him the resign or be impeached. Specifially Goldwater.
Other scientists with a vested interest in finding them innocent.They investigated themselves. Would you have been as trusting if Nixon investigated Watergate?So the myth of Climategate has been utterly debunked and releasing more emails only adds to the criminal charges against the people who stole the emails in the first place.
Dumb ass, other scientists investigated them. And exonerated them. Other politicians investigated Nixon, and told him the resign or be impeached. Specifially Goldwater.
And the sheep will then dutifully claim everything is kosher.The warmists will create some more committees stacked with warmist goons to "investigate" the emails and dub them to be proof of nothing.
Right, Pete, Roxy?
Gotta love you dumb asses. All the Scientific Societies, all the National Academys of Science, and all major Univesities state that AGW is real, and a danger to us all.
But you run with the opinion of an obese drugged out radio jock, and an ex-TV weatherman that has a degree in nothing at all.
The "other scientists" that investigated the CRU/UCAR/Penn State fakery would be like Liddy, Hunt, Haldeman and Ehrlichman investigating Watergate and exonerating Nixon.They investigated themselves. Would you have been as trusting if Nixon investigated Watergate?So the myth of Climategate has been utterly debunked and releasing more emails only adds to the criminal charges against the people who stole the emails in the first place.
Dumb ass, other scientists investigated them. And exonerated them. Other politicians investigated Nixon, and told him the resign or be impeached. Specifially Goldwater.
Handy, isn't it? Global warming makes it hotter, colder, wetter, dryer -- all at the same time.Fascinating how the ignoramouses are allways braying the end of 'global warming'. Yet, the glaciers keep receding, the ice caps continue to melt, and each decade is warmer than the last.
Fear-mongering. It's what emotional people with no facts or logic do.These people value their 'Conservative' ideology far more than reality or truth. Or their own childrens future.
So here we have the emails carefully detailing the scope and extent of the fraud...and you just sit there with your fingers in your ears.And the sheep will then dutifully claim everything is kosher.The warmists will create some more committees stacked with warmist goons to "investigate" the emails and dub them to be proof of nothing.
Right, Pete, Roxy?
Gotta love you dumb asses. All the Scientific Societies, all the National Academys of Science, and all major Univesities state that AGW is real, and a danger to us all.
But you run with the opinion of an obese drugged out radio jock, and an ex-TV weatherman that has a degree in nothing at all.
