Climate change

[DrDoomNGloom]

yep agree, however, the radiation toward the surface does not heat jack.

So are we clear yet that radiation from the cool atmosphere can hit the warmer ground?

Todd,

You do realize that radiation in this case refers to heat being given off.

A cooler temperature is indicative of a lower level of heat or energy.

So a cooler surface cannot radiate heat to a warmer surface but actually absorbs heat radiated from warmer surfaces.

So once again how does that work??

The radiation goes both ways but the NET result is always warmer to cooler. It's a sorta "gotcha" question methinks. Sorta like vector addition in opposite directions.

Greg

No, they both have signatures that are viewable in the IR spectrum,

No gotcha quetion, there is no question.

Heat flows one way, PERIOD.

What part of that is not sinking in??

NO on is getting got but you, failure to understand but parrot nonsense defines you as ignorant.

This might help you understand.

The 2nd Law of Thermodynamics: Can Energy “Flow Uphill”?
In the case of radiation, the answer to that question is, “yes”. While heat conduction by an object always flows from hotter to colder, in the case of thermal radiation a cooler object does not check what the temperature of its surroundings is before sending out infrared energy. It sends it out anyway, no matter whether its surroundings are cooler or hotter.

Yes, thermal conduction involves energy flow in only one direction. But radiation flow involves energy flow in both directions.

Of course, in the context of the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, both radiation and conduction processes are the same in the sense at the NET flow of energy is always “downhill”, from warmer temperatures to cooler temperatures.

But, if ANY flow of energy “uphill” is totally repulsive to you, maybe you can just think of the flow of IR energy being in only one direction, but with it’s magnitude being related to the relative temperature difference between the two objects. The result will still be the same: The presence of a cooler object can STILL cause a warmer object to become even hotter.

http://www.drroyspencer.com/2010/07...ts-can-make-warmer-objects-even-warmer-still/

Is this what you would like to see??

Greg

I shoved that way up Cricks ass earlier in the thread, don't be the second dufuss, go back back and find where he got punked out with that non sense/

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Paper by a fraudster climate hack, no matter what kind of letters he puts in front of his name.
He is not here, you don't understand his work and are not capable of defending it logically and scientifically, just like he can't.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

 

[gtopa1]

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

lol. You really have half of a wit!!

Greg

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

http://www.principia-scientific.org/images/stories/pdfs/Pierre_commentsadded.pdf

There is a lovely exchange at the end between two excellent thinkers.

Greg

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

lol. You really have half of a wit!!

Greg

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

http://www.principia-scientific.org/images/stories/pdfs/Pierre_commentsadded.pdf


There is a lovely exchange at the end between two excellent thinkers.

Greg

You provide a link to an irrelevant paper, no discussion ...................

Talk about half of something ..............

Must be a shame to be missing it all ................

 

[gtopa1]

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

lol. You really have half of a wit!!

Greg

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

http://www.principia-scientific.org/images/stories/pdfs/Pierre_commentsadded.pdf


There is a lovely exchange at the end between two excellent thinkers.

Greg

You provide a link to an irrelevant paper, no discussion ...................

Talk about half of something ..............

Must be a shame to be missing it all ................

So you didn't go past page 10 or so?? lol

Read more; bloviate less. It is quite an interesting back and forth. You really must increase your attention span to beyond that of a gnat!!

Greg

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Well looky what the Wikipedia states in Heat Transfer "

Heat transfer
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This figure shows a calculation for thermal convection in the Earth's mantle. Colors closer to red are hot areas and colors closer to blue are cold areas. A hot, less-dense lower boundary layer sends plumes of hot material upwards, and likewise, cold material from the top moves downwards.
Heat transfer describes the exchange of thermal energy, between physical systems depending on the temperature and pressure, by dissipating heat. The fundamental modes of heat transfer are conduction or diffusion, convection and radiation.

The exchange of kinetic energy of particles through the boundary between two systems which are at different temperatures from each other or from their surroundings. Heat transfer always occurs from a region of high temperature to another region of lower temperature.



That last statement, now you can frame it any way you like but semantics will not change physics.

As I have been stating, heat only flows from the higher to the lower temperature.

That is why science has two distinct technical phrases.

Heating for the moving of energy from lower to higher concentrations.
Cooling for the absorption of energy by cooler objects(lower concentration) from higher heat objects(higher concentrations).

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

lol. You really have half of a wit!!

Greg

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

http://www.principia-scientific.org/images/stories/pdfs/Pierre_commentsadded.pdf


There is a lovely exchange at the end between two excellent thinkers.

Greg

You provide a link to an irrelevant paper, no discussion ...................

Talk about half of something ..............

Must be a shame to be missing it all ................

So you didn't go past page 10 or so?? lol

Read more; bloviate less. It is quite an interesting back and forth. You really must increase your attention span to beyond that of a gnat!!

Greg

I am not wading through that mumbo jumbo, either explain it, cut and paste the relevant parts or STFU about it, but whatever happens it is on you bro not me.

You make an assertion, document it and discuss it or move on ..............

But you seem to be the one posting content less post and spewing shit about bloviating .......................

 

[Crick]

I bet you run into a lot of "mumbo jumbo", don't you.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

lol. You really have half of a wit!!

Greg

Hey stupid what is an entropy??

A configuration of a thermal system, so that configuration has what to do with energy flow??


The second law of thermodynamics states that the entropy of any isolated system not in thermal equilibrium almost always increases

What isolated system??

Not a bit of relevance .................

http://www.principia-scientific.org/images/stories/pdfs/Pierre_commentsadded.pdf

There is a lovely exchange at the end between two excellent thinkers.

Greg

You really have half of a wit!!

You're giving him too much credit.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Well looky what the Wikipedia states in Heat Transfer "

Heat transfer
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


This figure shows a calculation for thermal convection in the Earth's mantle. Colors closer to red are hot areas and colors closer to blue are cold areas. A hot, less-dense lower boundary layer sends plumes of hot material upwards, and likewise, cold material from the top moves downwards.
Heat transfer describes the exchange of thermal energy, between physical systems depending on the temperature and pressure, by dissipating heat. The fundamental modes of heat transfer are conduction or diffusion, convection and radiation.

The exchange of kinetic energy of particles through the boundary between two systems which are at different temperatures from each other or from their surroundings. Heat transfer always occurs from a region of high temperature to another region of lower temperature.



That last statement, now you can frame it any way you like but semantics will not change physics.

As I have been stating, heat only flows from the higher to the lower temperature.

That is why science has two distinct technical phrases.

Heating for the moving of energy from lower to higher concentrations.
Cooling for the absorption of energy by cooler objects(lower concentration) from higher heat objects(higher concentrations).

The exchange of kinetic energy of particles through the boundary between two systems which are at different temperatures from each other or from their surroundings. Heat transfer always occurs from a region of high temperature to another region of lower temperature.

If only we were talking about kinetic energy instead of radiation, you'd have a point.

 

[flacaltenn]

Your really having a hard time with FREQUENCY PROPAGATION... it is defined as the rate of oscillation (wavelength), direction and intensity at which a magnetic wave is operating. A laser is a focused oscillation which propagates a single beam (single direction) at high intensity.

Molecules are like two lasers pointed at each other. The photons leave each molecule at specific propagation of its thermal temperature and its mass (intensity). While the weak laser is fired at the other laser, the strongest laser is the one that will reach the weak one causing a reaction. This is where we get into the quantum physics of the two opposing photons (collision) and little is proven. More commonly called the Thermal Lapse Rate. This is the rate at which two bodies of near same temperature slow their cooling/warming.

Frequency propagation, how many time we gonna have to do this folks??

From wikipedia.
Category:Radio frequency propagation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Radio propagation.
All articles regarding the propagation of radio frequencies.



As per forum\ rules this is your LIE, I need a LINK to verify.

Google say's you are full of shit.

No definition exist for that term in scientific circles, it may in fear monger warmer circles.

That means the rest of that shit is just that shit out of your head with not linkable proof.


Oh and in that rambling shit you also mention thermal lapse rate, why do you morons not Google this shit before making a fool of yourselves??

From Wikipedia
Lapse rate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The lapse rate is defined as the rate at which atmospheric temperature decreases with increase in altitude. [1][2] The terminology arises from the word lapse in the sense of a decrease or decline. While most often applied to Earth's troposphere, the concept can be extended to any gravitationally supported parcel of gas.

What lie?? I suggest you quit while you can still rehabilitate yourself with some more reading. Propagation is the correct terminology to use for ANY Electro-Magnetic energy.. And guess what?? Both Radio and Light obey some of the some propagation rules and are considered both EMagnetic fields and waves.

You got a lot of "issues". And denying how the GreenHouse theory works is just one of them. Not sure WHAT links or facts you require. Spent my life working around these disciplines. You can DENY GWarrming all you want to. But you won't get any traction with just rejecting EVERYTHING that FRIENDLY folks try to tell you... Just read my sigline again and have a nice day..

BTW --- Lapse rate is thermodynamics effect -- not anything to do with Radiative Physics other than it provides a profile of atmospheric temperature and pressure that might affect how you model the thickness and concentration and heat of the atmos..

 

[Billy_Bob]

Your really having a hard time with FREQUENCY PROPAGATION... it is defined as the rate of oscillation (wavelength), direction and intensity at which a magnetic wave is operating. A laser is a focused oscillation which propagates a single beam (single direction) at high intensity.

Molecules are like two lasers pointed at each other. The photons leave each molecule at specific propagation of its thermal temperature and its mass (intensity). While the weak laser is fired at the other laser, the strongest laser is the one that will reach the weak one causing a reaction. This is where we get into the quantum physics of the two opposing photons (collision) and little is proven. More commonly called the Thermal Lapse Rate. This is the rate at which two bodies of near same temperature slow their cooling/warming.

Frequency propagation, how many time we gonna have to do this folks??

From wikipedia.
Category:Radio frequency propagation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Radio propagation.
All articles regarding the propagation of radio frequencies.



As per forum\ rules this is your LIE, I need a LINK to verify.

Google say's you are full of shit.

No definition exist for that term in scientific circles, it may in fear monger warmer circles.

That means the rest of that shit is just that shit out of your head with not linkable proof.


Oh and in that rambling shit you also mention thermal lapse rate, why do you morons not Google this shit before making a fool of yourselves??

From Wikipedia
Lapse rate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The lapse rate is defined as the rate at which atmospheric temperature decreases with increase in altitude. [1][2] The terminology arises from the word lapse in the sense of a decrease or decline. While most often applied to Earth's troposphere, the concept can be extended to any gravitationally supported parcel of gas.

You have serious issues. You also haven't a clue about what your trying to discuss. WIki is not a reputable source for many reasons. Made up crap is just one and rapid changes is the other..

 

[Billy_Bob]

Your really having a hard time with FREQUENCY PROPAGATION... it is defined as the rate of oscillation (wavelength), direction and intensity at which a magnetic wave is operating. A laser is a focused oscillation which propagates a single beam (single direction) at high intensity.

Molecules are like two lasers pointed at each other. The photons leave each molecule at specific propagation of its thermal temperature and its mass (intensity). While the weak laser is fired at the other laser, the strongest laser is the one that will reach the weak one causing a reaction. This is where we get into the quantum physics of the two opposing photons (collision) and little is proven. More commonly called the Thermal Lapse Rate. This is the rate at which two bodies of near same temperature slow their cooling/warming.

Frequency propagation, how many time we gonna have to do this folks??

From wikipedia.
Category:Radio frequency propagation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Radio propagation.
All articles regarding the propagation of radio frequencies.



As per forum\ rules this is your LIE, I need a LINK to verify.

Google say's you are full of shit.

No definition exist for that term in scientific circles, it may in fear monger warmer circles.

That means the rest of that shit is just that shit out of your head with not linkable proof.


Oh and in that rambling shit you also mention thermal lapse rate, why do you morons not Google this shit before making a fool of yourselves??

From Wikipedia
Lapse rate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The lapse rate is defined as the rate at which atmospheric temperature decreases with increase in altitude. [1][2] The terminology arises from the word lapse in the sense of a decrease or decline. While most often applied to Earth's troposphere, the concept can be extended to any gravitationally supported parcel of gas.

What lie?? I suggest you quit while you can still rehabilitate yourself with some more reading. Propagation is the correct terminology to use for ANY Electro-Magnetic energy.. And guess what?? Both Radio and Light obey some of the some propagation rules and are considered both EMagnetic fields and waves.

You got a lot of "issues". And denying how the GreenHouse theory works is just one of them. Not sure WHAT links or facts you require. Spent my life working around these disciplines. You can DENY GWarrming all you want to. But you won't get any traction with just rejecting EVERYTHING that FRIENDLY folks try to tell you... Just read my sigline again and have a nice day..

BTW --- Lapse rate is thermodynamics effect -- not anything to do with Radiative Physics other than it provides a profile of atmospheric temperature and pressure that might affect how you model the thickness and concentration and heat of the atmos..

Its really hard to try and explain why two molecules of near temperature will slow each others cooling rate. Probably a bad choice on my part but given the terms he was using I thought he might get the drift... Oh well..

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Your really having a hard time with FREQUENCY PROPAGATION... it is defined as the rate of oscillation (wavelength), direction and intensity at which a magnetic wave is operating. A laser is a focused oscillation which propagates a single beam (single direction) at high intensity.

Molecules are like two lasers pointed at each other. The photons leave each molecule at specific propagation of its thermal temperature and its mass (intensity). While the weak laser is fired at the other laser, the strongest laser is the one that will reach the weak one causing a reaction. This is where we get into the quantum physics of the two opposing photons (collision) and little is proven. More commonly called the Thermal Lapse Rate. This is the rate at which two bodies of near same temperature slow their cooling/warming.

Frequency propagation, how many time we gonna have to do this folks??

From wikipedia.
Category:Radio frequency propagation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Radio propagation.
All articles regarding the propagation of radio frequencies.



As per forum\ rules this is your LIE, I need a LINK to verify.

Google say's you are full of shit.

No definition exist for that term in scientific circles, it may in fear monger warmer circles.

That means the rest of that shit is just that shit out of your head with not linkable proof.


Oh and in that rambling shit you also mention thermal lapse rate, why do you morons not Google this shit before making a fool of yourselves??

From Wikipedia
Lapse rate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The lapse rate is defined as the rate at which atmospheric temperature decreases with increase in altitude. [1][2] The terminology arises from the word lapse in the sense of a decrease or decline. While most often applied to Earth's troposphere, the concept can be extended to any gravitationally supported parcel of gas.

What lie?? I suggest you quit while you can still rehabilitate yourself with some more reading. Propagation is the correct terminology to use for ANY Electro-Magnetic energy.. And guess what?? Both Radio and Light obey some of the some propagation rules and are considered both EMagnetic fields and waves.

You got a lot of "issues". And denying how the GreenHouse theory works is just one of them. Not sure WHAT links or facts you require. Spent my life working around these disciplines. You can DENY GWarrming all you want to. But you won't get any traction with just rejecting EVERYTHING that FRIENDLY folks try to tell you... Just read my sigline again and have a nice day..

BTW --- Lapse rate is thermodynamics effect -- not anything to do with Radiative Physics other than it provides a profile of atmospheric temperature and pressure that might affect how you model the thickness and concentration and heat of the atmos..

Funny I don't see any substance just a lot of bull shit about me and issue, grow the fuck up .................

By the way I noticed you used lapse rate in your first rant and when called and schooled on it, you want to come back and act like you knew that.

So if you knew that then why use it where it had no relevance in that first shuck and jive??

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Your really having a hard time with FREQUENCY PROPAGATION... it is defined as the rate of oscillation (wavelength), direction and intensity at which a magnetic wave is operating. A laser is a focused oscillation which propagates a single beam (single direction) at high intensity.

Molecules are like two lasers pointed at each other. The photons leave each molecule at specific propagation of its thermal temperature and its mass (intensity). While the weak laser is fired at the other laser, the strongest laser is the one that will reach the weak one causing a reaction. This is where we get into the quantum physics of the two opposing photons (collision) and little is proven. More commonly called the Thermal Lapse Rate. This is the rate at which two bodies of near same temperature slow their cooling/warming.

Frequency propagation, how many time we gonna have to do this folks??

From wikipedia.
Category:Radio frequency propagation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Radio propagation.
All articles regarding the propagation of radio frequencies.



As per forum\ rules this is your LIE, I need a LINK to verify.

Google say's you are full of shit.

No definition exist for that term in scientific circles, it may in fear monger warmer circles.

That means the rest of that shit is just that shit out of your head with not linkable proof.


Oh and in that rambling shit you also mention thermal lapse rate, why do you morons not Google this shit before making a fool of yourselves??

From Wikipedia
Lapse rate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The lapse rate is defined as the rate at which atmospheric temperature decreases with increase in altitude. [1][2] The terminology arises from the word lapse in the sense of a decrease or decline. While most often applied to Earth's troposphere, the concept can be extended to any gravitationally supported parcel of gas.

You have serious issues. You also haven't a clue about what your trying to discuss. WIki is not a reputable source for many reasons. Made up crap is just one and rapid changes is the other..

Ad hominems do nothing but make you look ignorant and petty, grow the fuck up ................

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

Your really having a hard time with FREQUENCY PROPAGATION... it is defined as the rate of oscillation (wavelength), direction and intensity at which a magnetic wave is operating. A laser is a focused oscillation which propagates a single beam (single direction) at high intensity.

Molecules are like two lasers pointed at each other. The photons leave each molecule at specific propagation of its thermal temperature and its mass (intensity). While the weak laser is fired at the other laser, the strongest laser is the one that will reach the weak one causing a reaction. This is where we get into the quantum physics of the two opposing photons (collision) and little is proven. More commonly called the Thermal Lapse Rate. This is the rate at which two bodies of near same temperature slow their cooling/warming.

Frequency propagation, how many time we gonna have to do this folks??

From wikipedia.
Category:Radio frequency propagation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Radio propagation.
All articles regarding the propagation of radio frequencies.



As per forum\ rules this is your LIE, I need a LINK to verify.

Google say's you are full of shit.

No definition exist for that term in scientific circles, it may in fear monger warmer circles.

That means the rest of that shit is just that shit out of your head with not linkable proof.


Oh and in that rambling shit you also mention thermal lapse rate, why do you morons not Google this shit before making a fool of yourselves??

From Wikipedia
Lapse rate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The lapse rate is defined as the rate at which atmospheric temperature decreases with increase in altitude. [1][2] The terminology arises from the word lapse in the sense of a decrease or decline. While most often applied to Earth's troposphere, the concept can be extended to any gravitationally supported parcel of gas.

What lie?? I suggest you quit while you can still rehabilitate yourself with some more reading. Propagation is the correct terminology to use for ANY Electro-Magnetic energy.. And guess what?? Both Radio and Light obey some of the some propagation rules and are considered both EMagnetic fields and waves.

You got a lot of "issues". And denying how the GreenHouse theory works is just one of them. Not sure WHAT links or facts you require. Spent my life working around these disciplines. You can DENY GWarrming all you want to. But you won't get any traction with just rejecting EVERYTHING that FRIENDLY folks try to tell you... Just read my sigline again and have a nice day..

BTW --- Lapse rate is thermodynamics effect -- not anything to do with Radiative Physics other than it provides a profile of atmospheric temperature and pressure that might affect how you model the thickness and concentration and heat of the atmos..

Its really hard to try and explain why two molecules of near temperature will slow each others cooling rate. Probably a bad choice on my part but given the terms he was using I thought he might get the drift... Oh well..

You are a fucking moron, see my post on heat transfer and stop spewing shit ........................

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Your really having a hard time with FREQUENCY PROPAGATION... it is defined as the rate of oscillation (wavelength), direction and intensity at which a magnetic wave is operating. A laser is a focused oscillation which propagates a single beam (single direction) at high intensity.

Molecules are like two lasers pointed at each other. The photons leave each molecule at specific propagation of its thermal temperature and its mass (intensity). While the weak laser is fired at the other laser, the strongest laser is the one that will reach the weak one causing a reaction. This is where we get into the quantum physics of the two opposing photons (collision) and little is proven. More commonly called the Thermal Lapse Rate. This is the rate at which two bodies of near same temperature slow their cooling/warming.

Frequency propagation, how many time we gonna have to do this folks??

From wikipedia.
Category:Radio frequency propagation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Radio propagation.
All articles regarding the propagation of radio frequencies.



As per forum\ rules this is your LIE, I need a LINK to verify.

Google say's you are full of shit.

No definition exist for that term in scientific circles, it may in fear monger warmer circles.

That means the rest of that shit is just that shit out of your head with not linkable proof.


Oh and in that rambling shit you also mention thermal lapse rate, why do you morons not Google this shit before making a fool of yourselves??

From Wikipedia
Lapse rate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The lapse rate is defined as the rate at which atmospheric temperature decreases with increase in altitude. [1][2] The terminology arises from the word lapse in the sense of a decrease or decline. While most often applied to Earth's troposphere, the concept can be extended to any gravitationally supported parcel of gas.

What lie?? I suggest you quit while you can still rehabilitate yourself with some more reading. Propagation is the correct terminology to use for ANY Electro-Magnetic energy.. And guess what?? Both Radio and Light obey some of the some propagation rules and are considered both EMagnetic fields and waves.

You got a lot of "issues". And denying how the GreenHouse theory works is just one of them. Not sure WHAT links or facts you require. Spent my life working around these disciplines. You can DENY GWarrming all you want to. But you won't get any traction with just rejecting EVERYTHING that FRIENDLY folks try to tell you... Just read my sigline again and have a nice day..

BTW --- Lapse rate is thermodynamics effect -- not anything to do with Radiative Physics other than it provides a profile of atmospheric temperature and pressure that might affect how you model the thickness and concentration and heat of the atmos..

Its really hard to try and explain why two molecules of near temperature will slow each others cooling rate. Probably a bad choice on my part but given the terms he was using I thought he might get the drift... Oh well..

You are a fucking moron, see my post on heat transfer and stop spewing shit ........................

It's idiots like you who make it difficult for us to debate the warmers who'd like to cripple our economy.

 

[flacaltenn]

Your really having a hard time with FREQUENCY PROPAGATION... it is defined as the rate of oscillation (wavelength), direction and intensity at which a magnetic wave is operating. A laser is a focused oscillation which propagates a single beam (single direction) at high intensity.

Molecules are like two lasers pointed at each other. The photons leave each molecule at specific propagation of its thermal temperature and its mass (intensity). While the weak laser is fired at the other laser, the strongest laser is the one that will reach the weak one causing a reaction. This is where we get into the quantum physics of the two opposing photons (collision) and little is proven. More commonly called the Thermal Lapse Rate. This is the rate at which two bodies of near same temperature slow their cooling/warming.

Frequency propagation, how many time we gonna have to do this folks??

From wikipedia.
Category:Radio frequency propagation
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Wikimedia Commons has media related to Radio propagation.
All articles regarding the propagation of radio frequencies.



As per forum\ rules this is your LIE, I need a LINK to verify.

Google say's you are full of shit.

No definition exist for that term in scientific circles, it may in fear monger warmer circles.

That means the rest of that shit is just that shit out of your head with not linkable proof.


Oh and in that rambling shit you also mention thermal lapse rate, why do you morons not Google this shit before making a fool of yourselves??

From Wikipedia
Lapse rate
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The lapse rate is defined as the rate at which atmospheric temperature decreases with increase in altitude. [1][2] The terminology arises from the word lapse in the sense of a decrease or decline. While most often applied to Earth's troposphere, the concept can be extended to any gravitationally supported parcel of gas.

What lie?? I suggest you quit while you can still rehabilitate yourself with some more reading. Propagation is the correct terminology to use for ANY Electro-Magnetic energy.. And guess what?? Both Radio and Light obey some of the some propagation rules and are considered both EMagnetic fields and waves.

You got a lot of "issues". And denying how the GreenHouse theory works is just one of them. Not sure WHAT links or facts you require. Spent my life working around these disciplines. You can DENY GWarrming all you want to. But you won't get any traction with just rejecting EVERYTHING that FRIENDLY folks try to tell you... Just read my sigline again and have a nice day..

BTW --- Lapse rate is thermodynamics effect -- not anything to do with Radiative Physics other than it provides a profile of atmospheric temperature and pressure that might affect how you model the thickness and concentration and heat of the atmos..

Its really hard to try and explain why two molecules of near temperature will slow each others cooling rate. Probably a bad choice on my part but given the terms he was using I thought he might get the drift... Oh well..

You are a fucking moron, see my post on heat transfer and stop spewing shit ........................

InfraRed radiation is not technically heat until it is absorbed by matter. But the transfer of energy that RESULTS in heat -- obeys the laws of the thermodymanics.. Now what?? You gonna tell us the light doesn't heat matter? Or that it can't flow from cold to hot?

Seen that issue before. The problem is largely an academic one. When they teach heat transfer, they don't INCLUDE Radiative transfer and propagation because that's taught in ANOTHER class on EMagnetic Fields and Waves.. You think RF energy in your microwave oven CARES if they leave an antenna that's colder or warmer than the food?