Christmas season is what is saving jobs

[saveliberty]

The only reason why there hasn't been as many jobs shed in November is the Christmas shopping season. That is what is keeping employers from shedding the normal amount of jobs and after the season is over its going to be a huge increase in job cuts.

I called this one almost 2 months ago

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/94085-christmas-season-will-hiring-ease-unemployment.html

How many times does the phrase "SEASONAL ADJUSTMENT" have to be mentioned in one thread? I'll try again. NORMAL SEASONAL VARIATIONS, SUCH AS CHRISTMAS HIRING AND THE CUTS IN JANUARY ARE FILTERED OUT OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS....THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT.

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

I called this one almost 2 months ago

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/94085-christmas-season-will-hiring-ease-unemployment.html

How many times does the phrase "SEASONAL ADJUSTMENT" have to be mentioned in one thread? I'll try again. NORMAL SEASONAL VARIATIONS, SUCH AS CHRISTMAS HIRING AND THE CUTS IN JANUARY ARE FILTERED OUT OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS....THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT.

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

Well pinqy...your whole world was just FUCKED in one single sentence....

 

[PatekPhilippe]

From save's link

Employment in professional and business services rose by 86,000 in November.
Temporary help services accounted for the majority of the increase

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

 

[PatekPhilippe]

some more tidbits!!!!!!

Since July, temporary help services employment has risen by 117,000.

Translation..recession NOT OVER...no one can find a full time job!!!!!!

Factory overtime rose by 0.1 hour

Translation...no one's got any money and no one's buying A DAMN THING!!!!

Manufacturing employment fell by 41,000 in November.

Translation...Stimulus is a failure and is NOT creating meaningful private sector jobs!!!!!

One for pinqy....

Among the marginally attached, there were 861,000 discouraged workers in
November, up from 608,000 a year earlier. (The data are not seasonally ad-
justed.) Discouraged workers are persons not currently looking for work be-
cause they believe no jobs are available for them.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

more holes shot into pinqy's bullshit!!!!
Ab

out 2.3 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force in
November, an increase of 376,000 from a year earlier. (The data are not sea-
sonally adjusted.) These individuals were not in the labor force, wanted and
were available for work, and had looked for a job sometime in the prior 12
months. They were not counted as unemployed because they had not searched
for work in the 4 weeks preceding the survey.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

and finally....

The number of people working part time for economic reasons (sometimes re-
ferred to as involuntary part-time workers) was little changed in November
at 9.2 million. These individuals were working part time because their hours
had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

well...looks like pinqy and VaYank have been......seasonly adjusted.....

 

[NYcarbineer]

directly attributable to Christmas hiring......

Then why wasn't the number of lost jobs 11,000 last Christmas?

Last Christmas you didn't have 800 billion dollatrs in taxpayer money floating the economy.

So the stimulus IS helping bring us out of the Bush recession?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Then why wasn't the number of lost jobs 11,000 last Christmas?

Last Christmas you didn't have 800 billion dollatrs in taxpayer money floating the economy.

So the stimulus IS helping bring us out of the Bush recession?

Nope...it's creating a larger government...nothing more...nothing less.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I called this one almost 2 months ago

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/94085-christmas-season-will-hiring-ease-unemployment.html

How many times does the phrase "SEASONAL ADJUSTMENT" have to be mentioned in one thread? I'll try again. NORMAL SEASONAL VARIATIONS, SUCH AS CHRISTMAS HIRING AND THE CUTS IN JANUARY ARE FILTERED OUT OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS....THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT.

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

So the healthcare industry is beefing up for the holidays?

lol

 

[PatekPhilippe]

 

[Polk]

and finally....

The number of people working part time for economic reasons (sometimes re-
ferred to as involuntary part-time workers) was little changed in November
at 9.2 million. These individuals were working part time because their hours
had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time job.

I find this new-found obsession the right has with underemployment to be interesting.

 

[saveliberty]

How many times does the phrase "SEASONAL ADJUSTMENT" have to be mentioned in one thread? I'll try again. NORMAL SEASONAL VARIATIONS, SUCH AS CHRISTMAS HIRING AND THE CUTS IN JANUARY ARE FILTERED OUT OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS....THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT.

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

So the healthcare industry is beefing up for the holidays?

lol

Health care employment continued to rise in November (21,000), with not-
able gains in home health care services (7,000) and hospitals (7,000). The
health care industry has added 613,000 jobs since the recession began in
December 2007.

Same source as above. Subject was seasonal adjustment, it failed. Thanks for agreeing.

 

[pinqy]

I called this one almost 2 months ago

http://www.usmessageboard.com/economy/94085-christmas-season-will-hiring-ease-unemployment.html

How many times does the phrase "SEASONAL ADJUSTMENT" have to be mentioned in one thread? I'll try again. NORMAL SEASONAL VARIATIONS, SUCH AS CHRISTMAS HIRING AND THE CUTS IN JANUARY ARE FILTERED OUT OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS....THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT.

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

"temporary help services" is not seasonal hiring...it's temp agencies. I'd expect to see temp agency hiring go up first in a recovery. Unadjusted numbers, temp agencies only went up 29,000 Seasonally adjusted it's 52,000 Adjusted upwards because temp agencies don't usually increase during November.

As for department stores, they actually added 132,000 jobs. After seasonal adjustment, that's down to 8,000

Read the actual tables with numbers and do the math.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

How many times does the phrase "SEASONAL ADJUSTMENT" have to be mentioned in one thread? I'll try again. NORMAL SEASONAL VARIATIONS, SUCH AS CHRISTMAS HIRING AND THE CUTS IN JANUARY ARE FILTERED OUT OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS....THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT.

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

"temporary help services" is not seasonal hiring...it's temp agencies. I'd expect to see temp agency hiring go up first in a recovery. Unadjusted numbers, temp agencies only went up 29,000 Seasonally adjusted it's 52,000 Adjusted upwards because temp agencies don't usually increase during November.

As for department stores, they actually added 132,000 jobs. After seasonal adjustment, that's down to 8,000

Read the actual tables with numbers and do the math.

All of your points are meaningless....we see what the report says...spin it however you want but we still have it in black and white.

 

[PatekPhilippe]

Among the unemployed, the number of job losers and persons who completed tem-
porary jobs fell by 463,000 in November. The number of long-term unemployed
(those jobless for 27 weeks and over) rose by 293,000 to 5.9 million. The
percentage of unemployed persons jobless for 27 weeks or more increased by
2.7 percentage points to 38.3 percent.

Keep digging pinqy...keep digging, spinning, deflecting...whatever....

 

[NYcarbineer]

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

So the healthcare industry is beefing up for the holidays?

lol

Health care employment continued to rise in November (21,000), with not-
able gains in home health care services (7,000) and hospitals (7,000). The
health care industry has added 613,000 jobs since the recession began in
December 2007.

Same source as above. Subject was seasonal adjustment, it failed. Thanks for agreeing.

Seasonal adjustment is a fact. All the rightwing mythology aside, facts don't change.

 

[Polk]

How many times does the phrase "SEASONAL ADJUSTMENT" have to be mentioned in one thread? I'll try again. NORMAL SEASONAL VARIATIONS, SUCH AS CHRISTMAS HIRING AND THE CUTS IN JANUARY ARE FILTERED OUT OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS....THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT.

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

So the healthcare industry is beefing up for the holidays?

lol

You mean you don't get in on that Christmas rush for treatment?

 

[NYcarbineer]

How many times does the phrase "SEASONAL ADJUSTMENT" have to be mentioned in one thread? I'll try again. NORMAL SEASONAL VARIATIONS, SUCH AS CHRISTMAS HIRING AND THE CUTS IN JANUARY ARE FILTERED OUT OF THE EMPLOYMENT AND UNEMPLOYMENT STATISTICS....THEY DON'T HAVE ANY EFFECT.

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

"temporary help services" is not seasonal hiring...it's temp agencies. I'd expect to see temp agency hiring go up first in a recovery. Unadjusted numbers, temp agencies only went up 29,000 Seasonally adjusted it's 52,000 Adjusted upwards because temp agencies don't usually increase during November.

As for department stores, they actually added 132,000 jobs. After seasonal adjustment, that's down to 8,000
Read the actual tables with numbers and do the math.

That was worth highlighting.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Your attention ill informed dolt:

Employment Situation Summary

Job losses in the construction, manufacturing, and information
industries were offset by job gains in temporary help services and health
care.

Within retail trade, department stores added 8,000 jobs over the month.

So the healthcare industry is beefing up for the holidays?

lol

You mean you don't get in on that Christmas rush for treatment?

They're forming MASH units for the War on Christmas.