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Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
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Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
Jews maintained a presence throughout the millenia, that's been documented.
History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
Jews maintained a presence throughout the millenia, that's been documented.
History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
For how many more generations will Israel allow the Palestinian squatters to remain?
Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
You forget that there where two distinct mandates, or do you ignore this fact hoping it will go away.
The Mandate for Palestine was a treaty that entered into INTERNATIONAL LAW, which set up the British mandate for palestine
*sigh* The Mandate for Palestine was not a treaty.
Want to prove that then ?
You want me to prove a negative? Seriously? What a twat.
No I want you to prove that the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE was not a treaty as you falsely claim. So SERIOUSLY prove that you are not a islamonazi propagandist that just wants to defend terrorists while racially demonising the Jews
So you want me to prove the non-existance of something that does not exist? OKaaay. As you are so convinced my claims are false, it should be easy to disprove them, so this is just more trolling, isn't it?
A "treaty" is usually an agreement between sovereigns/nations and sometimes between international organizations. A LoN mandate was a form of legal status for a territory. Calling it a treaty is a stretch.
WRONG AGAIN Abdul a Treaty does not need to be anything more than an acceptance of certain actions and can be made by one body acting for all. In the case of the LoN because the members are from many nations the treaties are made amongst themselves. So because the LoN was involved as well as the nations who were members the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE was a treaty, but the separate articles as in the British Palestinian Mandate were not.
You can make up things all you want. You will find that treaties are traditionally agreements between sovereign/nations. However, reread your post. It makes no sense. Plus, it really doesn't matter whether it was a treaty or not.
Well it does actually as a Treaty is binding on the sovereign states that sign it unless they subsequently formally abrogate it. Phoney is just blustering because he hasn't got a clue as to what he's talking about. He's just rehashing stuff he's seen posted by others but has failed to understand. The guy is just trolling again.
You said "control", not "presence". Now you are shifting the goal posts just like Phoney.Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
Jews maintained a presence throughout the millenia, that's been documented.
History of the Jews and Judaism in the Land of Israel - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Still trolling.A "treaty" is usually an agreement between sovereigns/nations and sometimes between international organizations. A LoN mandate was a form of legal status for a territory. Calling it a treaty is a stretch.
WRONG AGAIN Abdul a Treaty does not need to be anything more than an acceptance of certain actions and can be made by one body acting for all. In the case of the LoN because the members are from many nations the treaties are made amongst themselves. So because the LoN was involved as well as the nations who were members the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE was a treaty, but the separate articles as in the British Palestinian Mandate were not.
You can make up things all you want. You will find that treaties are traditionally agreements between sovereign/nations. However, reread your post. It makes no sense. Plus, it really doesn't matter whether it was a treaty or not.
Well it does actually as a Treaty is binding on the sovereign states that sign it unless they subsequently formally abrogate it. Phoney is just blustering because he hasn't got a clue as to what he's talking about. He's just rehashing stuff he's seen posted by others but has failed to understand. The guy is just trolling again.
And this happened when ?
Go troll somewhere else, I'm not interested.*sigh* The Mandate for Palestine was not a treaty.
Want to prove that then ?
You want me to prove a negative? Seriously? What a twat.
No I want you to prove that the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE was not a treaty as you falsely claim. So SERIOUSLY prove that you are not a islamonazi propagandist that just wants to defend terrorists while racially demonising the Jews
So you want me to prove the non-existance of something that does not exist? OKaaay. As you are so convinced my claims are false, it should be easy to disprove them, so this is just more trolling, isn't it?
Yes your posts are, must be a trait of you neo Marxist stooges. It is just as easy to prove something did not happen as it is to prove it did.
So prove your claim which is a positive then, or retract
AIPAC drivel.Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
Pre-State Israel: Jewish Claim To The Land Of Israel
by Mitchell Bard
A common misperception is that the Jews were forced into the diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 A.D. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years. A national language and a distinct civilization have been maintained.
The Jewish people base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham; 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 3) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive wars.
The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century A.D., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.
The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although eventually Palestine was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence there lasted for 212 years. This is almost as long as Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.
Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.
Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionistmovement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.
When Jews began to immigrate to Palestine in large numbers in 1882, fewer than 250,000 Arabs lived there, and the majority of them had arrived in recent decades. Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not." In fact, Palestine is never explicitly mentioned in the Koran, rather it is called "the holy land" (al-Arad al-Muqaddash).
Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:
We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.
In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."
The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nationssubmitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."
Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day Warand Israel's capture of the West Bank.
Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.
Still trolling.A "treaty" is usually an agreement between sovereigns/nations and sometimes between international organizations. A LoN mandate was a form of legal status for a territory. Calling it a treaty is a stretch.
WRONG AGAIN Abdul a Treaty does not need to be anything more than an acceptance of certain actions and can be made by one body acting for all. In the case of the LoN because the members are from many nations the treaties are made amongst themselves. So because the LoN was involved as well as the nations who were members the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE was a treaty, but the separate articles as in the British Palestinian Mandate were not.
You can make up things all you want. You will find that treaties are traditionally agreements between sovereign/nations. However, reread your post. It makes no sense. Plus, it really doesn't matter whether it was a treaty or not.
Well it does actually as a Treaty is binding on the sovereign states that sign it unless they subsequently formally abrogate it. Phoney is just blustering because he hasn't got a clue as to what he's talking about. He's just rehashing stuff he's seen posted by others but has failed to understand. The guy is just trolling again.
And this happened when ?
AIPAC drivel.Nor Jewish control for 2,011 years and that's being generous.Treaty Shmeaty, the land wasn't under Arab control for 800 years.
Pre-State Israel: Jewish Claim To The Land Of Israel
by Mitchell Bard
A common misperception is that the Jews were forced into the diaspora by the Romans after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem in the year 70 A.D. and then, 1,800 years later, suddenly returned to Palestine demanding their country back. In reality, the Jewish people have maintained ties to their historic homeland for more than 3,700 years. A national language and a distinct civilization have been maintained.
The Jewish people base their claim to the land of Israel on at least four premises: 1) God promised the land to the patriarch Abraham; 2) the Jewish people settled and developed the land; 3) the international community granted political sovereignty in Palestine to the Jewish people and 4) the territory was captured in defensive wars.
The term "Palestine" is believed to be derived from the Philistines, an Aegean people who, in the 12th Century B.C., settled along the Mediterranean coastal plain of what is now Israel and the Gaza Strip. In the second century A.D., after crushing the last Jewish revolt, the Romans first applied the name Palaestina to Judea (the southern portion of what is now called the West Bank) in an attempt to minimize Jewish identification with the land of Israel. The Arabic word "Filastin" is derived from this Latin name.
The Twelve Tribes of Israel formed the first constitutional monarchy in Palestine about 1000 B.C. The second king, David, first made Jerusalem the nation's capital. Although eventually Palestine was split into two separate kingdoms, Jewish independence there lasted for 212 years. This is almost as long as Americans have enjoyed independence in what has become known as the United States.
Even after the destruction of the Second Temple in Jerusalem and the beginning of the exile, Jewish life in Palestine continued and often flourished. Large communities were reestablished in Jerusalem and Tiberias by the ninth century. In the 11th century, Jewish communities grew in Rafah, Gaza, Ashkelon, Jaffa and Caesarea.
Many Jews were massacred by the Crusaders during the 12th century, but the community rebounded in the next two centuries as large numbers of rabbis and Jewish pilgrims immigrated to Jerusalem and the Galilee. Prominent rabbis established communities in Safed, Jerusalem and elsewhere during the next 300 years. By the early 19th century-years before the birth of the modern Zionistmovement-more than 10,000 Jews lived throughout what is today Israel.
When Jews began to immigrate to Palestine in large numbers in 1882, fewer than 250,000 Arabs lived there, and the majority of them had arrived in recent decades. Palestine was never an exclusively Arab country, although Arabic gradually became the language of most the population after the Muslim invasions of the seventh century. No independent Arab or Palestinian state ever existed in Palestine. When the distinguished Arab-American historian, Princeton University Prof. Philip Hitti, testified against partition before the Anglo-American Committee in 1946, he said: "There is no such thing as 'Palestine' in history, absolutely not." In fact, Palestine is never explicitly mentioned in the Koran, rather it is called "the holy land" (al-Arad al-Muqaddash).
Prior to partition, Palestinian Arabs did not view themselves as having a separate identity. When the First Congress of Muslim-Christian Associations met in Jerusalem in February 1919 to choose Palestinian representatives for the Paris Peace Conference, the following resolution was adopted:
We consider Palestine as part of Arab Syria, as it has never been separated from it at any time. We are connected with it by national, religious, linguistic, natural, economic and geographical bonds.
In 1937, a local Arab leader, Auni Bey Abdul-Hadi, told the Peel Commission, which ultimately suggested the partition of Palestine: "There is no such country [as Palestine]! 'Palestine' is a term the Zionists invented! There is no Palestine in the Bible. Our country was for centuries part of Syria."
The representative of the Arab Higher Committee to the United Nationssubmitted a statement to the General Assembly in May 1947 that said "Palestine was part of the Province of Syria" and that, "politically, the Arabs of Palestine were not independent in the sense of forming a separate political entity." A few years later, Ahmed Shuqeiri, later the chairman of the PLO, told the Security Council: "It is common knowledge that Palestine is nothing but southern Syria."
Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day Warand Israel's capture of the West Bank.
Israel's international "birth certificate" was validated by the promise of the Bible; uninterrupted Jewish settlement from the time of Joshua onward; the Balfour Declaration of 1917; the League of Nations Mandate, which incorporated the Balfour Declaration; the United Nations partition resolution of 1947; Israel's admission to the UN in 1949; the recognition of Israel by most other states; and, most of all, the society created by Israel's people in decades of thriving, dynamic national existence.
Still trolling.Still trolling.WRONG AGAIN Abdul a Treaty does not need to be anything more than an acceptance of certain actions and can be made by one body acting for all. In the case of the LoN because the members are from many nations the treaties are made amongst themselves. So because the LoN was involved as well as the nations who were members the MANDATE FOR PALESTINE was a treaty, but the separate articles as in the British Palestinian Mandate were not.
You can make up things all you want. You will find that treaties are traditionally agreements between sovereign/nations. However, reread your post. It makes no sense. Plus, it really doesn't matter whether it was a treaty or not.
Well it does actually as a Treaty is binding on the sovereign states that sign it unless they subsequently formally abrogate it. Phoney is just blustering because he hasn't got a clue as to what he's talking about. He's just rehashing stuff he's seen posted by others but has failed to understand. The guy is just trolling again.
And this happened when ?
Nope just asking you a question and putting you on the spot. It is you that is trolling as the rules show, so keep it up and see what happens.
Still trolling.Still trolling.You can make up things all you want. You will find that treaties are traditionally agreements between sovereign/nations. However, reread your post. It makes no sense. Plus, it really doesn't matter whether it was a treaty or not.
Well it does actually as a Treaty is binding on the sovereign states that sign it unless they subsequently formally abrogate it. Phoney is just blustering because he hasn't got a clue as to what he's talking about. He's just rehashing stuff he's seen posted by others but has failed to understand. The guy is just trolling again.
And this happened when ?
Nope just asking you a question and putting you on the spot. It is you that is trolling as the rules show, so keep it up and see what happens.
^^^^^^
Ya right. Maybe that's why an overwhelming majority the 1.8 million Arab Muslim citizens of Israel prefer living in Israel over any other country.