Child Porn Proposal

The reality is that men are instinctively attracted to peripubescent and immediately post-pubescent females. Everybody knows this, and women try to maintain that 'I just started bleeding' look as long as they can. Think about it: why do women shave their legs? Why do they remove their pubic hair? Why is this considered beautiful? Because a lack of secondary sex traits is a sign of youth- not just youth, but, when combined with developed or developing breasts, a 'cute' face, and other common themes of 'beauty', of a very specific period of time: that period of time when a girl first becomes sexually mature. This is because it offers a sexually mature (or sufficiently developed) female while maximizing the amount of time she will be sexually receptive and fertile.

In Western society especially, the goal is to merge the signs of youth (lack of body hair, 'cuteness', a slender figure, etc) with sign of fertility (developed breasts, widened hips, etc). This creation of the hypersexual child-woman is the ultimate goal of most women in Western society when they make themselves up, and it is designed to offer the 'ideal'. Now, this is also done with young children. Take Jeanbenet Ramsey and others. They took a young girl (with the aforementioned traits) and worked in the opposite direction, attempting to make her hips look more developed by making her waits look smaller and 'womanizing' her. In both cases, the end goal is the same: to create a hypersexual child-woman with signs of sufficient sexual maturity while retaining as much as possible signs of youth and maximum future reproductive potential. In both cases, the result is the same: appeal to as many as possible of the most basic sexual signals designed to attract sexually active and avaliable males.

To then expect males to not be attracted to the very signals and age range that their brains are hardwired to find attractive is unrealistic. The fact is that hebo- and ephebophilia are simple the most natural attraction. The most basic 'age of attraction' is for males to be attracted to females between puberty (oft 10-13, depending largely on enviromental factors) to late adolescence and early twenties. (women are programmed to find males of an older age attractive, generally late teens to mid mid or lat 20s, due to the fact that females generally mature at a younger age than males)

Combine this with the fact that teens and youth always have tended to know much more about sex than our society gives them credit for, and you see that any of our laws are simply foolish (eg: a 16-year old girl being charged with producing child porn for sending her Bf nude images of herself). There have been a number of societies that exposed children to sex at younger age, and not only did no harm come, but they are widely considered healthier by anthropologists.Remember that even religious calls for the 'desexualizing' of late adolescents and tens is a relatively recent phenomenon.

It is not the age of the persons, but rather the nature of any encounters that determines what is harmful and what is not- take for instance youth 'playing doctor'. Sexuially repressive asopcieties can actually lead to widespreasd complexes regarding sex, and much like we see with the 'preacher's daughter', that which is declared taboo gains a new appeal while a lack of education and true familiarity with the subject leads to increased irresponsibility and ignorance.
 
Is English your second language, FT?? What part of 77 percent of child molesters of boys and 87 percent of girl molesters SAID PORN INFLUENCED AND ENCOURAGED THEM?

What do you not understand about it being used to lower the defenses of their victims so they are more pliable? Because that's what they do. They show the kids this shit and tell them, "Look, see, it's okay!"

So do you think that viewing all pornography should be illegal? Since in the article they weren't talking about child porn, they were talking about ALL porn.
 
Is English your second language, FT?? What part of 77 percent of child molesters of boys and 87 percent of girl molesters SAID PORN INFLUENCED AND ENCOURAGED THEM?

What do you not understand about it being used to lower the defenses of their victims so they are more pliable? Because that's what they do. They show the kids this shit and tell them, "Look, see, it's okay!"

It said they "admitted to the habitual use of pornography in the commission of their crimes". Not the same thing. How many robbers use fire-arms in the commission of their crimes?

How many own them for recreational use? Because there's more than one reason for owning a gun.

Child porn exists for one reason and one reason only..to depict and encourage illegal behavior. There's no other reason for it.

Horror films are there only to depict illegal behavior as well...
 
So you, Agna and FT are all in the same club.

Keep fighting the good fight to legally screw kids, and remove all laws protecting them.

Shut the fuck up. Seriously. This is just another case of a rightwing fuckwinkle who lets their emotions go wild.

Try thinking rationally here. Nobody on this thread has advocated pedophilia be legal. Nobody has advocated legally screwing kids. The difference between that and a picture is HUGE.
 
"Pedophilia" isn't presently illegal as it is, anyway. Alone, it's merely a mental disorder, not any specific act or behavior. It's merely popular misconception rather than clinical accuracy that insists otherwise.
 
Its also popular misconception regarding what pedophilia even means. Sexual attraction to a 15-year-old is not pedophilia (unless she's an exceptionally late bloomer)
 
The reality is that men are instinctively attracted to peripubescent and immediately post-pubescent females. Everybody knows this, and women try to maintain that 'I just started bleeding' look as long as they can. Think about it: why do women shave their legs? Why do they remove their pubic hair? Why is this considered beautiful? Because a lack of secondary sex traits is a sign of youth- not just youth, but, when combined with developed or developing breasts, a 'cute' face, and other common themes of 'beauty', of a very specific period of time: that period of time when a girl first becomes sexually mature. This is because it offers a sexually mature (or sufficiently developed) female while maximizing the amount of time she will be sexually receptive and fertile.

In Western society especially, the goal is to merge the signs of youth (lack of body hair, 'cuteness', a slender figure, etc) with sign of fertility (developed breasts, widened hips, etc). This creation of the hypersexual child-woman is the ultimate goal of most women in Western society when they make themselves up, and it is designed to offer the 'ideal'. Now, this is also done with young children. Take Jeanbenet Ramsey and others. They took a young girl (with the aforementioned traits) and worked in the opposite direction, attempting to make her hips look more developed by making her waits look smaller and 'womanizing' her. In both cases, the end goal is the same: to create a hypersexual child-woman with signs of sufficient sexual maturity while retaining as much as possible signs of youth and maximum future reproductive potential. In both cases, the result is the same: appeal to as many as possible of the most basic sexual signals designed to attract sexually active and avaliable males.

To then expect males to not be attracted to the very signals and age range that their brains are hardwired to find attractive is unrealistic. The fact is that hebo- and ephebophilia are simple the most natural attraction. The most basic 'age of attraction' is for males to be attracted to females between puberty (oft 10-13, depending largely on enviromental factors) to late adolescence and early twenties. (women are programmed to find males of an older age attractive, generally late teens to mid mid or lat 20s, due to the fact that females generally mature at a younger age than males)

Combine this with the fact that teens and youth always have tended to know much more about sex than our society gives them credit for, and you see that any of our laws are simply foolish (eg: a 16-year old girl being charged with producing child porn for sending her Bf nude images of herself). There have been a number of societies that exposed children to sex at younger age, and not only did no harm come, but they are widely considered healthier by anthropologists.Remember that even religious calls for the 'desexualizing' of late adolescents and tens is a relatively recent phenomenon.

It is not the age of the persons, but rather the nature of any encounters that determines what is harmful and what is not- take for instance youth 'playing doctor'. Sexuially repressive asopcieties can actually lead to widespreasd complexes regarding sex, and much like we see with the 'preacher's daughter', that which is declared taboo gains a new appeal while a lack of education and true familiarity with the subject leads to increased irresponsibility and ignorance.

I wish you wouldn't take a bong hit then post. It's mind numbing. And not just for you.

Nobody cares about your musings about why women shave their legs, for crying out loud.
 
He hasn't said anything inaccurate here, which is a welcome deviation from his typical posts. It's biologically natural for reproductive men to be physically attracted to reproductive women, regardless of whether or not they've reached the age of majority, and that would of course include adolescents, primarily those aged 15 to 19. That isn't intended to function as a justification for relaxing age of consent laws that prohibit sexual contact with people in the lower areas of that age group by adults, just as the evolutionary origins of rape and sexual assault don't function as warrant for legalizing such acts.

Frankly, Babble, I don't care what you want to call that biological reality. You can apply all the disingenuous and stupid little labels that you want, and that will do absolutely nothing, since no one who's even the least bit informed really cares what you think.
 
I wish you wouldn't take a bong hit then post. It's mind numbing. And not just for you.


wait for it...


surely this stupidity will be followed by an actual refutation....



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Sorry, I seem to have grossly overestimated your intelligence again; I really gotta stop giving you the benefit of the doubt :doubt:
 
What are used to commit crime and for no other purpose? Pornography? That is utterly ridiculous.

Child porn.

You are a fucking idiot. Thats becuase child porn is, by definition, illegal. Make guns illegal and they will be used to commit crimes and for no other purpose.
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It seems that you can repeat a basic truth about clinical diagnosis over and over again, and some people will insist on maintaining their misconceptions regardless. :rolleyes:
 
I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds by resurrecting this topic, but this issue is important to me, mainly because virtual child porn has artistic merit which according to the Miller Test is not porn.

I was very upset when Christopher Handley was arrested for possessing virtual child porn (lolicon).
The charge was actually selling it, but to justify a warrantless search and seizure to the media/press they said possession.

Now for the big news in Japan:
A new virtual child porn bill (amends an existing bill) was proposed and rejected, but a revision will be submitted later this fall.

Tokyo's 'Nonexistent Youth' Bill Rejected by Assembly - June 16 2010
by ANN staff member.

Sorry, I can't post URL's yet.
 
So I've been thinking of how we can try to fight the production of child porn more effectively and I came up with some ideas, and I wonder what you think.

All virtual child porn (drawings, sculptures, CGI images of kids getting screwed) should be legal as they harm no one and the evidence that they cause pedos to screw kids is very bad. If it's found that they made the images by first molesting a child than they should be arrested for molesting the child and not making an image.

Now anyway here's my bigger proposal (please read the entire thing before commenting).

The government should scour the internet for a week and find as much child porn as it can. It shall than prosecute the makers and consumers of said child porn but then it shall make all the images it finds public domain, legal to access and found in one convenient website (possibly with a .gov tag). All of the aforementioned images shall be tagged and if anyone is found with child porn that is not part of the public domain porn archives than they will be prosecuted, unless they can prove it was made before the one-week sweep. All makers of real child porn shall continue to be prosecuted.

Real child porn consists of images and video of kids being molested, as long as it's in demand kids will be molested for it at some rate. I'd love to go back in time and stop those kids from being molested but I can't and so we might as well use those images to lower demand. With this option the pedos into it have two options.
One. Search the internet for child porn created after the date in question and face the possibility of being persecuted.
2. Look at virtual child porn or go to the government's big stash of public domain kiddy porn and not face prosecution.

If they choose option number two they will not be feeding into the demand for videos of molested children and in theory the underground business of making such images and photos will videos and be easier to deal with.

So... any comments?

That was the dumbest thing I've ever seen on the internet.
 
So I've been thinking of how we can try to fight the production of child porn more effectively and I came up with some ideas, and I wonder what you think.

All virtual child porn (drawings, sculptures, CGI images of kids getting screwed) should be legal as they harm no one and the evidence that they cause pedos to screw kids is very bad. If it's found that they made the images by first molesting a child than they should be arrested for molesting the child and not making an image.

Now anyway here's my bigger proposal (please read the entire thing before commenting).

The government should scour the internet for a week and find as much child porn as it can. It shall than prosecute the makers and consumers of said child porn but then it shall make all the images it finds public domain, legal to access and found in one convenient website (possibly with a .gov tag). All of the aforementioned images shall be tagged and if anyone is found with child porn that is not part of the public domain porn archives than they will be prosecuted, unless they can prove it was made before the one-week sweep. All makers of real child porn shall continue to be prosecuted.

Real child porn consists of images and video of kids being molested, as long as it's in demand kids will be molested for it at some rate. I'd love to go back in time and stop those kids from being molested but I can't and so we might as well use those images to lower demand. With this option the pedos into it have two options.
One. Search the internet for child porn created after the date in question and face the possibility of being persecuted.
2. Look at virtual child porn or go to the government's big stash of public domain kiddy porn and not face prosecution.

If they choose option number two they will not be feeding into the demand for videos of molested children and in theory the underground business of making such images and photos will videos and be easier to deal with.

So... any comments?

That was the dumbest thing I've ever seen on the internet.
Well, almost.
He had a point with his first line, but his proposal sounds to Orwellian.
No citizen would go for that (stings already in practice with GPS and Google Street View).

I already have a proposal in response to the Non Existent Youth Bill in Japan (rough draft).
Like the violence in videogames bills that cropped up in 2007 and 08, they want to restrict the sale of mature material from minors, but they even go further by making it a crime to posses and distribute material that features anyone who appears to be younger than 18 in sexual situations or adult themes, which includes manga, adult games, and most anime DVDs.
 

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