Cherry-picking examples of socialist governments failing does not prove the concept is flawed

Capitalism’s greatest inherent flaw is that as decades pass, widening income disparity will inevitably get worse. The rich become richer, and the poor become more poor. The middle class shrinks. The only way to prevent this is with government intervention, i.e. socialism. Capitalism of course isn’t a failure - the US would not be the juggernaut it is now if it weren’t for a private market. However, that does not mean the quality of life for most won’t get worse over time.

Socialism is a very broad term. To simplify the definition, it is a concept that involves the people funding (tax revenue) and owning (utilizing) government services. This is why every nation on earth - including the US - has a socialist backbone. Any service the government provides that’s funded by tax revenue and is utilized by the people is socialism.

The definition of socialism has nothing to do with corrupt leadership in a given government. Venezuela is failing because of the country’s leadership. Socialism’s core definition has nothing to do with a dictatorship government.

Nordic countries are social democratic countries. This means more services apply the the well being of the population. These people have the best quality of life according to international polling. That is something that is diminishing in America. However, that doesn’t mean the concept is the antithesis of capitalism. Socialism can be the framework of a capitalist system. Socialism is just needed to make sure a capitalistic system provides benefit to the well being of the population as a whole.
/——/ If socialized countries had to pay for their own defense 100% then they would have to roll back the socialist giveaways. You can’t have both.
tax cuts for the Rich and cuts to social services for the poor?
/----/ If the food stamp roles are decreasing what's wrong with reducing the budget? Do you maintain your grocery budget even though you cut back on the size of your meals or the kids move out of the house?
Food stamp rolls plummet in states that restore work requirements ...
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Jul 4, 2017 - After the food stamp rolls swelled for years under the Obama administration, fresh figures show a dramatic reduction in states that recently have moved to restore work requirements. States were allowed to waive those rules for able-bodied adults thanks to the 2009 economic ...
that is not what the right wing advocates. they only advocate tax cuts for the rich even though we are running massive deficits, and cuts to social services for the poor. any leftover general welfare funds should be used to fix potholes.
/-----/ "that is not what the right wing advocates. " Yes it is. It describes our core belief.
"any leftover general welfare funds should be used to fix potholes" Maybe a good idea for individual household budgets. We needed a new fridge and had the cash saved up. We found one on sale and saved enough for a new microwave that was on its last leg. But things don't work that way in Washington.
 
Capitalism’s greatest inherent flaw is that as decades pass, widening income disparity will inevitably get worse. The rich become richer, and the poor become more poor. The middle class shrinks. The only way to prevent this is with government intervention, i.e. socialism. Capitalism of course isn’t a failure - the US would not be the juggernaut it is now if it weren’t for a private market. However, that does not mean the quality of life for most won’t get worse over time.

Socialism is a very broad term. To simplify the definition, it is a concept that involves the people funding (tax revenue) and owning (utilizing) government services. This is why every nation on earth - including the US - has a socialist backbone. Any service the government provides that’s funded by tax revenue and is utilized by the people is socialism.

The definition of socialism has nothing to do with corrupt leadership in a given government. Venezuela is failing because of the country’s leadership. Socialism’s core definition has nothing to do with a dictatorship government.

Nordic countries are social democratic countries. This means more services apply the the well being of the population. These people have the best quality of life according to international polling. That is something that is diminishing in America. However, that doesn’t mean the concept is the antithesis of capitalism. Socialism can be the framework of a capitalist system. Socialism is just needed to make sure a capitalistic system provides benefit to the well being of the population as a whole.
/——/ If socialized countries had to pay for their own defense 100% then they would have to roll back the socialist giveaways. You can’t have both.
tax cuts for the Rich and cuts to social services for the poor?
/----/ If the food stamp roles are decreasing what's wrong with reducing the budget? Do you maintain your grocery budget even though you cut back on the size of your meals or the kids move out of the house?
Food stamp rolls plummet in states that restore work requirements ...
www.foxnews.com/.../food-stamp-rolls-plummet-in-states-that-restore-work-requirement...
Jul 4, 2017 - After the food stamp rolls swelled for years under the Obama administration, fresh figures show a dramatic reduction in states that recently have moved to restore work requirements. States were allowed to waive those rules for able-bodied adults thanks to the 2009 economic ...
that is not what the right wing advocates. they only advocate tax cuts for the rich even though we are running massive deficits, and cuts to social services for the poor. any leftover general welfare funds should be used to fix potholes.
/-----/ "that is not what the right wing advocates. " Yes it is. It describes our core belief.
"any leftover general welfare funds should be used to fix potholes" Maybe a good idea for individual household budgets. We needed a new fridge and had the cash saved up. We found one on sale and saved enough for a new microwave that was on its last leg. But things don't work that way in Washington.
they only advocate tax cuts for the rich even though we are running massive deficits, and cuts to social services for the poor.
 
I am amazed that people living in America openly support the failed idiology of socialism.

For socialism to work, human nature must be suppressed. That is impossible.

We have clear examples all the way back to Plymoth and William Bradford.

Humans are :
  • Lazy
  • Envious
  • Vain
  • Greedy
  • Jealous
  • Spiteful
  • Fearful
  • Hateful
  • Etc
The naive socialist believes government can suppress that nature.

The capitalist harnesses that nature and puts it to use.

Socialism will always fail because it sucks and is stupid.

The OP needs to get the fuck out and go live where socialism works (wherever that is).
You can't show any economy that is capitalist. Capitalism is Third World. All First World economies are Socialist and have Mixed Market economies, to Prove it.

The right wing simply has no clue of economics.
You mean nations where Drug Lords take charge?
There is no such thing as an unregulated nation, even if some of that regulation is deleterious to much of the population.
under True Capitalism, capital matters not morals or morality.

Only the right wing, never gets it.
/----/ It's the complete opposite, Commie.
Definition of Capitalism
Because people often use the term "Capitalism" loosely, "Laissez Faire Capitalism" is sometimes used to describe a true Capitalist system. But this phrase is redundant.

It is important to define "Capitalism" correctly because a proper definition is a prerequisite to a proper defense. Capitalism is the only moral political system because it is the only system dedicated to the protection of rights, which is a requirement for human survival and flourishing. This is the only proper role of a government. Capitalism should be defended vigorously on a moral basis, not an economic or utilitarian basis.
Capitalism doesn't care about rights, only capital. We know better, in modern times.
/----/ You're just repeating Prog talking points. Try backing up your claims with some facts like I did.
 
You can not legislate morals never can, never will... That's why socialism only works on paper not in the real world .



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The right simply doesn't care, about even Ten simple non-legislated Commandments, from a God. How, immoral is that.
Most Leftists are atheists.
Manna from the public sector whenever we cannot muster enough morals for any God?
Example:
Protest the Drug Lords forcing people to run to thr US.
Don’t protest the US.
it is our drug war. why are we Losing money on that public policy and not Making money.

Good capitalists, generate revenue at every opportunity.
Bad response.
If they want help, demand military action, not flooding our borders with more welfare recipients and cheap baby sitters.
 
You have no argument, only ad hominems. Thanks for playing.
What’s your argument?
Republicans are evil!

Democrats need the poor.
Extremes will always exists and will always need to be tempered.
The right wing complains about socialism. They Are the Problem, not socialism. Socialism merely requires social morals for free not capital morals for a market friendly price.


You can not legislate morals never can, never will... That's why socialism only works on paper not in the real world .



.
The right simply doesn't care, about even Ten simple non-legislated Commandments, from a God. How, immoral is that.

Most Leftists are atheists.


Some A are B;
Some B are A;
Therefore, DUH


All F are C;
Some R are C
Therefore,
Some R are F

F- fascist
C- Cruel
R- Republican
 
You can't show any economy that is capitalist. Capitalism is Third World. All First World economies are Socialist and have Mixed Market economies, to Prove it.

The right wing simply has no clue of economics.
You mean nations where Drug Lords take charge?
There is no such thing as an unregulated nation, even if some of that regulation is deleterious to much of the population.
under True Capitalism, capital matters not morals or morality.

Only the right wing, never gets it.
/----/ It's the complete opposite, Commie.
Definition of Capitalism
Because people often use the term "Capitalism" loosely, "Laissez Faire Capitalism" is sometimes used to describe a true Capitalist system. But this phrase is redundant.

It is important to define "Capitalism" correctly because a proper definition is a prerequisite to a proper defense. Capitalism is the only moral political system because it is the only system dedicated to the protection of rights, which is a requirement for human survival and flourishing. This is the only proper role of a government. Capitalism should be defended vigorously on a moral basis, not an economic or utilitarian basis.
Capitalism doesn't care about rights, only capital. We know better, in modern times.
/----/ You're just repeating Prog talking points. Try backing up your claims with some facts like I did.
you have no facts, only fantasy.

Capital doesn't care for free.
 
The right simply doesn't care, about even Ten simple non-legislated Commandments, from a God. How, immoral is that.
Most Leftists are atheists.
Manna from the public sector whenever we cannot muster enough morals for any God?
Example:
Protest the Drug Lords forcing people to run to thr US.
Don’t protest the US.
it is our drug war. why are we Losing money on that public policy and not Making money.

Good capitalists, generate revenue at every opportunity.
Bad response.
If they want help, demand military action, not flooding our borders with more welfare recipients and cheap baby sitters.
socialism on a national basis? I thought you allege to subscribe to Capitalism.
 
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You mean nations where Drug Lords take charge?
There is no such thing as an unregulated nation, even if some of that regulation is deleterious to much of the population.
under True Capitalism, capital matters not morals or morality.

Only the right wing, never gets it.
/----/ It's the complete opposite, Commie.
Definition of Capitalism
Because people often use the term "Capitalism" loosely, "Laissez Faire Capitalism" is sometimes used to describe a true Capitalist system. But this phrase is redundant.

It is important to define "Capitalism" correctly because a proper definition is a prerequisite to a proper defense. Capitalism is the only moral political system because it is the only system dedicated to the protection of rights, which is a requirement for human survival and flourishing. This is the only proper role of a government. Capitalism should be defended vigorously on a moral basis, not an economic or utilitarian basis.
Capitalism doesn't care about rights, only capital. We know better, in modern times.
/----/ You're just repeating Prog talking points. Try backing up your claims with some facts like I did.
you have no facts, only fantasy.

Capital doesn't care for free.
/----/ "Capital doesn't care for free." Really? I see it everywhere. Try getting out more.
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under True Capitalism, capital matters not morals or morality.

Only the right wing, never gets it.
/----/ It's the complete opposite, Commie.
Definition of Capitalism
Because people often use the term "Capitalism" loosely, "Laissez Faire Capitalism" is sometimes used to describe a true Capitalist system. But this phrase is redundant.

It is important to define "Capitalism" correctly because a proper definition is a prerequisite to a proper defense. Capitalism is the only moral political system because it is the only system dedicated to the protection of rights, which is a requirement for human survival and flourishing. This is the only proper role of a government. Capitalism should be defended vigorously on a moral basis, not an economic or utilitarian basis.
Capitalism doesn't care about rights, only capital. We know better, in modern times.
/----/ You're just repeating Prog talking points. Try backing up your claims with some facts like I did.
you have no facts, only fantasy.

Capital doesn't care for free.
/----/ "Capital doesn't care for free." Really? I see it everywhere. Try getting out more.
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that is not caring; it is called a "loss leader", not a "caring leader".
 
/----/ It's the complete opposite, Commie.
Definition of Capitalism
Because people often use the term "Capitalism" loosely, "Laissez Faire Capitalism" is sometimes used to describe a true Capitalist system. But this phrase is redundant.

It is important to define "Capitalism" correctly because a proper definition is a prerequisite to a proper defense. Capitalism is the only moral political system because it is the only system dedicated to the protection of rights, which is a requirement for human survival and flourishing. This is the only proper role of a government. Capitalism should be defended vigorously on a moral basis, not an economic or utilitarian basis.
Capitalism doesn't care about rights, only capital. We know better, in modern times.
/----/ You're just repeating Prog talking points. Try backing up your claims with some facts like I did.
you have no facts, only fantasy.

Capital doesn't care for free.
/----/ "Capital doesn't care for free." Really? I see it everywhere. Try getting out more.
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that is not caring; it is called a "loss leader", not a "caring leader".
/---/ Oh so now when called out, you move the goalposts. Is English your second language? Your posts don't make much sense and I don't think you understand our responses.
 
/----/ It's the complete opposite, Commie.
Definition of Capitalism
Because people often use the term "Capitalism" loosely, "Laissez Faire Capitalism" is sometimes used to describe a true Capitalist system. But this phrase is redundant.

It is important to define "Capitalism" correctly because a proper definition is a prerequisite to a proper defense. Capitalism is the only moral political system because it is the only system dedicated to the protection of rights, which is a requirement for human survival and flourishing. This is the only proper role of a government. Capitalism should be defended vigorously on a moral basis, not an economic or utilitarian basis.
Capitalism doesn't care about rights, only capital. We know better, in modern times.
/----/ You're just repeating Prog talking points. Try backing up your claims with some facts like I did.
you have no facts, only fantasy.

Capital doesn't care for free.
/----/ "Capital doesn't care for free." Really? I see it everywhere. Try getting out more.
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that is not caring; it is called a "loss leader", not a "caring leader".
/-----/ ever notice...
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Capitalism doesn't care about rights, only capital. We know better, in modern times.
/----/ You're just repeating Prog talking points. Try backing up your claims with some facts like I did.
you have no facts, only fantasy.

Capital doesn't care for free.
/----/ "Capital doesn't care for free." Really? I see it everywhere. Try getting out more.
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that is not caring; it is called a "loss leader", not a "caring leader".
/---/ Oh so now when called out, you move the goalposts. Is English your second language? Your posts don't make much sense and I don't think you understand our responses.
making up definitions as we go along?
 
Capitalism doesn't care about rights, only capital. We know better, in modern times.
/----/ You're just repeating Prog talking points. Try backing up your claims with some facts like I did.
you have no facts, only fantasy.

Capital doesn't care for free.
/----/ "Capital doesn't care for free." Really? I see it everywhere. Try getting out more.
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that is not caring; it is called a "loss leader", not a "caring leader".
/-----/ ever notice...
FleeCommunismSocialism.jpg
We have a Statue of Liberty.
 
Capitalism’s greatest inherent flaw is that as decades pass, widening income disparity will inevitably get worse. The rich become richer, and the poor become more poor. The middle class shrinks. The only way to prevent this is with government intervention, i.e. socialism. Capitalism of course isn’t a failure - the US would not be the juggernaut it is now if it weren’t for a private market. However, that does not mean the quality of life for most won’t get worse over time.

Socialism is a very broad term. To simplify the definition, it is a concept that involves the people funding (tax revenue) and owning (utilizing) government services. This is why every nation on earth - including the US - has a socialist backbone. Any service the government provides that’s funded by tax revenue and is utilized by the people is socialism.

The definition of socialism has nothing to do with corrupt leadership in a given government. Venezuela is failing because of the country’s leadership. Socialism’s core definition has nothing to do with a dictatorship government.

Nordic countries are social democratic countries. This means more services apply the the well being of the population. These people have the best quality of life according to international polling. That is something that is diminishing in America. However, that doesn’t mean the concept is the antithesis of capitalism. Socialism can be the framework of a capitalist system. Socialism is just needed to make sure a capitalistic system provides benefit to the well being of the population as a whole.


Except....socialism is always corrupt.
 
Most Leftists are atheists.
Manna from the public sector whenever we cannot muster enough morals for any God?
Example:
Protest the Drug Lords forcing people to run to thr US.
Don’t protest the US.
it is our drug war. why are we Losing money on that public policy and not Making money.

Good capitalists, generate revenue at every opportunity.
Bad response.
If they want help, demand military action, not flooding our borders with more welfare recipients and cheap baby sitters.
socialism on a national basis? I thought you allege to subscribe to Capitalism.
WTF are you babbling about?
You want to save people?
Blow their corrupt leaders to Kingdom Come.
Stop the bullshit about how horrible the US is.
 

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