Cheney Admits He Authorized Torture Against Guantanamo Detainees

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    http://www.pubrecord.org/nationworl...zed-torture-against-guantanamo-detainees.html
     
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    I have to point out several things, the first is, you can't commit a 'war crime' against an illeagal combatent, this is long disputed but the UN charter makes this very clear.

    The second is, what 'court' was jurisdiction to make such a charge?

    Acording to long established international law, the Numremberg trials were ileagal, as is the current 'world court' in the Hague.

    I really wish people would stop with the 'war crime' meme, if you want to say that they committed heinous acts, that is fine, but war crime?

    Sorry, doesn't work.
     
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    Of course you can, the whole illegal combatant thing is quite disputed and legally shaky, the Eisentr├Ąger precendent was quite bollocks too.
    You cannot just go in and claim that people you imprisoned are neither Civilians nor military personal. And that you therefor can threat them in anyway you want.
    Several Wehrmacht-Generals who used fairly harsh techniques against Jugoslavian partisan also defendet themselfs by stating that Titos troops were "illegal combatants" (although the term used was different), did not really work for them either.

    However, as long as the US does not loose a war in a catastrophic way, no meaningfull American will ever get tried. War crime tribunals only happen to the loosers.
     
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    So we waterboard a few of these terrorist assholes....so what!! Where is the outrage against these thugs when they strap on a bomb and walk into a restaurant or store and kill innocent bystanders?

    Good thing we didn't have to deal with this crap in WWII or we'd all be goose stepping right now.
     
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    Looks like your premise here Tuba is completely without merit. :cuckoo:
     
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    Something to ponder from the people who quite possibly invented the most effective counter-intelligence organization on earth.

    According to Christopher Hutchinson during WWII, even in England's blackest days, back when the English cities were getting blown to smithereens, the punishment meted out to interogators for torturing German spies or sabatuers was courts martial followed by serious time in prison.

    You couyldn't even raise your hand to those prisoners.

    Why?

    Because they realized that torture didn't work, that's why.
     
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    That isn't quite true.

    Nazi spies had a choice, they either co-operated or they were executed.
     
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    And to think people pay good money to go snow boarding.

    I'm sorry, but, sadly I have little remorse in this case. And YES, I realize that isn't really fair, but, it is how I feel.
     
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    I'm sorry terrorists get treatly poorly. Maybe we should use a soft cushion or a cumfy chair during interrogations? Would that make it all better for you?
     

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