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Let's start, dcbl, with factual evidence that Clinton allowed (what does that mean? gave permission? encouraged?) for meetings with folks that give money to a personal fund or political party (how much? who? where? when?).Honest answer, it depends And I probably care more when it is done with foreign actors So, when the SecState allows for meetings with folks that give money to a personal fund or a political party, I would say that is more egregious than when an American company gets tax breaks or favorable legislation based on a donation, BUT, that is not always true I'm not an absolutist like that And yes, I am confident that influence peddling is going on with this administration as well - fair enough?Do you care about the influence peddling being done by Trump and his family, or do you only care when a (D) does it?
Unfortunately, that's a tough question. We have people who clearly can't delineate between fact and opinion; we have people who will see a fact they don't like and label it "fake news"; and we have people who can't seem to keep their opinions out of the dissemination of the facts in the first place.Let’s go a step back...how many can actually recognize a fact?Once again, no one can even agree on FACTS.
If the FBI is investigating Crooked Donnie....he deserves it
So, as long as we are being honest...Honest answer, it dependsDo you care about the influence peddling being done by Trump and his family, or do you only care when a (D) does it?
And I probably care more when it is done with foreign actors
So, when the SecState allows for meetings with folks that give money to a personal fund or a political party, I would say that is more egregious than when an American company gets tax breaks or favorable legislation based on a donation, BUT, that is not always true
I'm not an absolutist like that
And yes, I am confident that influence peddling is going on with this administration as well - fair enough?
That is fair enough.
Here is my take on the influence peddling issue, it has been going on as long as there has been people in power. It is not going to stop, and for the most part it does not really affect my life all that much, if at all. I care about things that have an impact on me and my family.
Let me ask you this, let's pretend that we really did sell 20% of our uranium...so what? Are we running out and cant build anymore nukes? Did Russia not have enough Nukes to kill us 100 times over and us them?
When I was a young man we had a president that choose to sell guns to Iran to try and get hostages released and fund covert operations in Nicaragua. This was against the law and immoral based on what Iran was doing at the time. That man is seen as one of the greatest president of our country and pretty much nobody went to jail over it.
Nothing has changed since then.
dcbl is saying above that he really does not care about facts, but that he really, really hates the Clintons.
"they skate on shit that others get crucified for" is exactly what Trump does as well.
So, let's support the FBI on getting them all.
Read my reply to GGLet's start, dcbl, with factual evidence that Clinton allowed (what does that mean? gave permission? encouraged?) for meetings with folks that give money to a personal fund or political party (how much? who? where? when?).Honest answer, it depends And I probably care more when it is done with foreign actors So, when the SecState allows for meetings with folks that give money to a personal fund or a political party, I would say that is more egregious than when an American company gets tax breaks or favorable legislation based on a donation, BUT, that is not always true I'm not an absolutist like that And yes, I am confident that influence peddling is going on with this administration as well - fair enough?Do you care about the influence peddling being done by Trump and his family, or do you only care when a (D) does it?
Are you talking about Uranium None? We need so much more than opinion.
there was no "fake" dossier. You believe a lie.Trump was not spied on.The why is the fake news media saying it was OK to spy on Trump?I love the new "Obama spied on trump" deflection going around......Bonus points if you are defending spying on his campaign now!
You know who you are, step up and own it now baws
It's OK, we all make miss-steaks sometimes...
The people in the Trump camp, who were in contact with Russian Operatives that appeared to be trying to infiltrate the Trump campaign, were questioned about their Russian Operative contacts by an informant.
This was a counter intelligence investigation in to the Russian's election interference campaign....
they would have been remiss to not find out if these people who joined the Trump campaign, were not doing so, as Russian operatives. A real dereliction of duty if they had not checked it out.
It had NOTHING to do with politics.... had no political reason.
you guys are such pawns for dirty donald... when will you ever learn???
Care here to maintain that it's okay to use a fake dossier to set up political candidates...
there was no "fake" dossier. You believe a lie.Trump was not spied on.The why is the fake news media saying it was OK to spy on Trump?I love the new "Obama spied on trump" deflection going around......Bonus points if you are defending spying on his campaign now!
You know who you are, step up and own it now baws
It's OK, we all make miss-steaks sometimes...
The people in the Trump camp, who were in contact with Russian Operatives that appeared to be trying to infiltrate the Trump campaign, were questioned about their Russian Operative contacts by an informant.
This was a counter intelligence investigation in to the Russian's election interference campaign....
they would have been remiss to not find out if these people who joined the Trump campaign, were not doing so, as Russian operatives. A real dereliction of duty if they had not checked it out.
It had NOTHING to do with politics.... had no political reason.
you guys are such pawns for dirty donald... when will you ever learn???
Care here to maintain that it's okay to use a fake dossier to set up political candidates...
Cockroaches keep mouthing those lies......even though they know they're lying, and we know they're lying, and they know we know they're lying...
So, as long as we are being honest...
1st, you are one of the "leftists" that I mostly respect, but that was diminished a bit during our exchange about jobs numbers (I know you remember)
I'm with you, if it does not affect me or my family, it does not really register with me in a compelling way
My big issue with the Clinton's is that they seem to be above the law, they skate on shit that others get crucified for
And I don't like her policies - outside of that, I really don't care
I am saying that I believe the Clinton's are corrupt to the core, but that it does not affect my personal lifedcbl is saying above that he really does not care about facts, but that he really, really hates the Clintons.
"they skate on shit that others get crucified for" is exactly what Trump does as well.
So, let's support the FBI on getting them all.
Actually,, I have always considered you a "center left" moderateYou all assume because I do not like Trump I must be a lefty.
My views are just slightly to the right of Attila the Hunn so I doubt itthough I can guarantee you that if we were to compare our position on the issues you are to the left of me.
My views are just slightly to the right of Attila the Hunn so I doubt itthough I can guarantee you that if we were to compare our position on the issues you are to the left of me.
I have a longstanding reputation as "the nice right wing nut job"
Sine 2003 on different boards
Actually,, I have always considered you a "center left" moderateYou all assume because I do not like Trump I must be a lefty.
I have never thrown you in with the radical left
My views are just slightly to the right of Attila the Hunn so I doubt itthough I can guarantee you that if we were to compare our position on the issues you are to the left of me.
I have a longstanding reputation as "the nice right wing nut job"
Sine 2003 on different boards
It's not a lie, Hillary signed off on an uranium deal for donationsIs that why Trump gave Russia 20%of our uranium?The Russians were the ones infiltrating the Trump campaign. And that's a fact.
Don't you guys care about freedom?
Nobody gave Russia 20% of our uranium. Why do you keep repeating this lie...is this one of those Goebbels moves about telling a lie enough times?
And that is a lie as well. She had neither the power to approve or disapprove the deal. The State Dept was one of multiple agencies that have a Rep on the committee. The committee is an advisory one only, the POTUS is the only one with approval or disapproval power.
Someone would have to be pretty stupid to bribe one member of a committee that has no actual power
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Yup, do not get it. Why is this so hard to understand?
Johnson - 2016
Johnson - 2012
Barr - 2008
Badnarik - 2004
Browne - 2000
Perot. - 1996
Clinton - 1992
Bush I - 1988
Reagan - 1984
The problem is that the republican party is Democra leftist lightMy views are just slightly to the right of Attila the Hunn so I doubt itthough I can guarantee you that if we were to compare our position on the issues you are to the left of me.
I have a longstanding reputation as "the nice right wing nut job"
Sine 2003 on different boards
Then you would be the first person I have spoken with on here that is not to the left of me.
