Challenges on the path

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    This thread is open to all. It is a place to discuss what happens when you determine to follow a set of principles to guide your mind and heart.

    All are included.

    I am a Buddhist. I have certain vows and promises I have made. I start out in the morning with a positive intention to follow them, and I seal that with prayer and meditation. Then throughout the day I check to see if I am on or off the intention.

    In the evening I do a mental inventory to see how I've done. I rejoice in my virtue, and I acknowledge and regret where I've lost it. I purify those mistakes with meditation practice and reset my intention.

    What do you do?

    What challenges do you find in holding to a positive intention of any kind?
     
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    But what about Pride and all those secrets you guys keep?
     
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    Are you asking me a sincere question out of interest, sarge? What secrets are you interested in?

    Do you want to know about Buddhist teachings on pride and how to work with it?
     
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    What secrets are there? Why be specific at all, just tell me of any secrets in your religion. As for Pride you may just need a refresher on your morning meditations.
     
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    Teachings in Buddhism have outer, inner, secret and extremely secret aspects to them.

    Some of the secrecy is called 'self secret' which means that you may have recieived teachings but you don't have the experience in meditation for the teachings to be realized.

    In my lineage, we consider these to be 'the degenerate times'. Due to the way in which the vajrayana has been transmitted in America, many things that were once taught secretly can be found on the internet. That's why there is the injunction, that you cannot rely only on the written word, you have to rely on a qualified teacher, and you have to be a qualified student yourself.

    For example, some of the imagery in Vajrayana Buddhism which depicts wrathful 'deities' was not supposed to be viewed by non-practitioners. Why is that? Because non-Buddhists would look at those paintings or statues and think they represent 'idols' that we 'worship'. Nothing could be further from the truth.

    Buddhism emphasizes meditation. In my tradition, there is also formal prayer, and group sadhanas. The Vajrayana practices all share a certain structure.

    If you want me to talk more about that I will if you ask me specific questions. What I will never tell you are specific personal teachings I have recieived from my Lama.

    Of course, I have pride. I also have ignorance, desire, jealousy, and anger. I share those with all sentient beings.

    Until, Buddhahood, sentient beings have the five poisons of the mind outlined in the above sentence.
     
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    Interesting premise for the thread.

    My Wife and I believe in God. We also believe that no church has all the answers. We also believe that most churches worry too much over worldly concerns like money and politics. So, we don't regularly attend any church.

    Instead, we live our lives as close to the ideal as possible. We pray for guidance, forgiveness, and a winning lottery ticket. Only joking on the lotto ticket.

    We taught our kids that God is in your heart first. We also encouraged them to go to as many churches as possible and figure out for themselves what is right for them. As of now, my youngest daughter attends church regularly because she is a very social person and enjoys the fellowship.

    I like the phrase "What would Jesus do?". Often I believe the anser to that isn't the same answer given by organized religion.

    But that is just me.
     
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    pegwinn-

    If you taught your children that God is in their hearts, and encouraged your children to find their own path, then you have served them well.

    Your children are very fortunate. Sounds like you have raised them in a loving environment.

    What would Jesus do? That's good question. I have great respect for Jesus as a role model.
     
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    I took one of those online belief tests, and it said my beliefs were 100% Buddhist. I was a little suprised, but not much. It said my friend was a Pagan. I would be a Pagan, but the goat legs chaff my thighs.

    My main belief is that you get to heaven on the arm of someone you have helped.
     
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    Skydancer, thank you for the kind words.
     
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    Um ... just going to open with a response to this then answer the topic, Chris, learn more about Paganism and what it really is, mmmkay. The goat image is actually a Greek god or one of a couple European gods, and those specific religions only represent about 1% of the pagan religions that exist, and ultimately any pure pagan will tell you that each pagan is unique in their own beliefs. Why? Because that's what the word means in the first place. Even many Bhuddists are pagan, I even know a lot of pagan christians.

    Now, for my beliefs on the path:

    Learn, learn more, and learn all that my tiny brain can hold. Thus is the belief of the Ancient Egyptians, thus is my belief also. Knowledge, wisdom, and anything in between. So each day I learn at least one new thing I am progressing one step along the path to fulfillment.
     

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