CCW Permit Holder - Trump says...

[Brain357]

The nutters say that the president of the United States should not have Secret Service for himself or his family. (Well actually, they would be in favor of Secret Service protection for a Repub prez and family.)

But the nutters will say its okay for Drumpf to have armed body guards and/or carry a gun.

The nutters want ONLY certain people to be armed: tee potties, white racists, so-called "militia", criminals, illegals, terrorists and the mentally ill.

No actually we say if Obama thinks that guns are the problem. Then why does he want them all around him?

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Do the math. Almost no rapes are even defensable with a gun. You can't really be this stupid.

 

[2aguy]

No actually we say if Obama thinks that guns are the problem. Then why does he want them all around him?

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Do the math. Almost no rapes are even defensable with a gun. You can't really be this stupid.

And guns are the most effective way to stop rape......moron.

 

[Brain357]

The nutters say that the president of the United States should not have Secret Service for himself or his family. (Well actually, they would be in favor of Secret Service protection for a Repub prez and family.)

But the nutters will say its okay for Drumpf to have armed body guards and/or carry a gun.

The nutters want ONLY certain people to be armed: tee potties, white racists, so-called "militia", criminals, illegals, terrorists and the mentally ill.

No actually we say if Obama thinks that guns are the problem. Then why does he want them all around him?

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Are you aware crime is at 30 year lows? Stop trying to scare people, the numbers don't support it.

 

[2aguy]

No actually we say if Obama thinks that guns are the problem. Then why does he want them all around him?

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Do the math. Almost no rapes are even defensable with a gun. You can't really be this stupid.

And here we have studies that show that guns are the most effective way to stop a rape.....
Guns Effective Defense Against Rape

A woman using a gun is less likely to be raped and more likely to not be injured during the attack....

Guns Effective Defense Against Rape


However, most recent studies with improved methodology are consistently showing that the more forceful the resistance, the lower the risk of a completed rape, with no increase in physical injury. Sarah Ullman's original research (Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 1998) and critical review of past studies (Criminal Justice and Behavior, 1997) are especially valuable in solidifying this conclusion.

I wish to single out one particular subtype of physical resistance: Use of a weapon, and especially a firearm, is statistically a woman's best means of resistance, greatly enhancing her odds of escaping both rape and injury, compared to any other strategy of physical or verbal resistance. This conclusion is drawn from four types of information.

First, a 1989 study (Furby, Journal of Interpersonal Violence) found that both male and female survey respondents judged a gun to be the most effective means that a potential rape victim could use to fend off the assault. Rape "experts" considered it a close second, after eye-gouging.

Second, raw data from the 1979-1985 installments of the Justice Department's annual National Crime Victim Survey show that when a woman resists a stranger rape with a gun, the probability of completion was 0.1 percent and of victim injury 0.0 percent, compared to 31 percent and 40 percent, respectively, for all stranger rapes (Kleck, Social Problems, 1990).

Third, a recent paper (Southwick, Journal of Criminal Justice, 2000) analyzed victim resistance to violent crimes generally, with robbery, aggravated assault and rape considered together. Women who resisted with a gun were 2.5 times more likely to escape without injury than those who did not resist and 4 times more likely to escape uninjured than those who resisted with any means other than a gun. Similarly, their property losses in a robbery were reduced more than six-fold and almost three-fold, respectively, compared to the other categories of resistance strategy.

Fourth, we have two studies in the last 20 years that directly address the outcomes of women who resist attempted rape with a weapon. (Lizotte, Journal of Quantitative Criminology, 1986; Kleck, Social Problems, 1990.) The former concludes,"Further, women who resist rape with a gun or knife dramatically decrease their probability of completion." (Lizotte did not analyze victim injuries apart from the rape itself.) The latter concludes that "resistance with a gun or knife is the most effective form of resistance for preventing completion of a rape"; this is accomplished "without creating any significant additional risk of other injury."

The best conclusion from available scientific data, then, is when avoidance of rape has failed and one must choose between being raped and resisting, a woman's best option is to resist with a gun in her hands.

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So, again a woman's best chance for stopping the rape and ultimately surviving the situation is to use a gun.....

 

[Brain357]

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Do the math. Almost no rapes are even defensable with a gun. You can't really be this stupid.

And guns are the most effective way to stop rape......moron.

Sure they are, that tiny fraction of a percent that are defendable.

 

[2aguy]

No actually we say if Obama thinks that guns are the problem. Then why does he want them all around him?

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Are you aware crime is at 30 year lows? Stop trying to scare people, the numbers don't support it.

Funny...crime is at 30 year lows as over 12.8 million people now carry guns for self defense.....asswipe.

 

[2aguy]

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Do the math. Almost no rapes are even defensable with a gun. You can't really be this stupid.

And guns are the most effective way to stop rape......moron.

Sure they are, that tiny fraction of a percent that are defendable.

And they are most effectively stopped by a woman with a gun...

 

[Brain357]

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Do the math. Almost no rapes are even defensable with a gun. You can't really be this stupid.

And here we have studies that show that guns are the most effective way to stop a rape.....
Guns Effective Defense Against Rape

A woman using a gun is less likely to be raped and more likely to not be injured during the attack....

Guns Effective Defense Against Rape


However, most recent studies with improved methodology are consistently showing that the more forceful the resistance, the lower the risk of a completed rape, with no increase in physical injury. Sarah Ullman's original research (Journal of Interpersonal Violence, 1998) and critical review of past studies (Criminal Justice and Behavior, 1997) are especially valuable in solidifying this conclusion.

I wish to single out one particular subtype of physical resistance: Use of a weapon, and especially a firearm, is statistically a woman's best means of resistance, greatly enhancing her odds of escaping both rape and injury, compared to any other strategy of physical or verbal resistance. This conclusion is drawn from four types of information.

First, a 1989 study (Furby, Journal of Interpersonal Violence) found that both male and female survey respondents judged a gun to be the most effective means that a potential rape victim could use to fend off the assault. Rape "experts" considered it a close second, after eye-gouging.

Second, raw data from the 1979-1985 installments of the Justice Department's annual National Crime Victim Survey show that when a woman resists a stranger rape with a gun, the probability of completion was 0.1 percent and of victim injury 0.0 percent, compared to 31 percent and 40 percent, respectively, for all stranger rapes (Kleck, Social Problems, 1990).

Third, a recent paper (Southwick, Journal of Criminal Justice, 2000) analyzed victim resistance to violent crimes generally, with robbery, aggravated assault and rape considered together. Women who resisted with a gun were 2.5 times more likely to escape without injury than those who did not resist and 4 times more likely to escape uninjured than those who resisted with any means other than a gun. Similarly, their property losses in a robbery were reduced more than six-fold and almost three-fold, respectively, compared to the other categories of resistance strategy.

Fourth, we have two studies in the last 20 years that directly address the outcomes of women who resist attempted rape with a weapon. (Lizotte, Journal of Quantitative Criminology, 1986; Kleck, Social Problems, 1990.) The former concludes,"Further, women who resist rape with a gun or knife dramatically decrease their probability of completion." (Lizotte did not analyze victim injuries apart from the rape itself.) The latter concludes that "resistance with a gun or knife is the most effective form of resistance for preventing completion of a rape"; this is accomplished "without creating any significant additional risk of other injury."

The best conclusion from available scientific data, then, is when avoidance of rape has failed and one must choose between being raped and resisting, a woman's best option is to resist with a gun in her hands.

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So, again a woman's best chance for stopping the rape and ultimately surviving the situation is to use a gun.....

Oh the copy and paste king again. They should really boot you from the forum, you are really just a nra bot.

You don't mention in that how almost none are defensable with a gun.

 

[Brain357]

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Do the math. Almost no rapes are even defensable with a gun. You can't really be this stupid.

And guns are the most effective way to stop rape......moron.

Sure they are, that tiny fraction of a percent that are defendable.

And they are most effectively stopped by a woman with a gun...

You mean almost none are.

 

[Brain357]

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Are you aware crime is at 30 year lows? Stop trying to scare people, the numbers don't support it.

Funny...crime is at 30 year lows as over 12.8 million people now carry guns for self defense.....asswipe.

So why are you so scared? You've never even needed to defend yourself. Stop selling fear.

 

[SwimExpert]

Are you aware crime is at 30 year lows?

But our streets are being flooded by guns. So.....

 

[westwall]

No actually we say if Obama thinks that guns are the problem. Then why does he want them all around him?

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Do the math. Almost no rapes are even defensable with a gun. You can't really be this stupid.

What planet do you reside upon? I'm really curious? Here in Nevada there was a woman who had a CCW but she was on UNR property so couldn't carry her weapon so she was raped just down the block from the campus PD. The perp who raped her then kidnapped, raped and murdered a beautiful young woman named Brianna Denison. Just imagine if the woman he raped first had had her weapon. Brianna would still be alive and the perp either the one in the ground or in prison.

You're a fucking moron.


James Biela | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers

 

[Missourian]

Let's see him eliminate metal detectors at his events so law-abidding cc people can attend and celebrate their being unable to leave their homes unless strapped.

I met Senator Jim Talent and Governor Matt Blunt in front of the Pulaski County Courthouse in 2005 at a campaign stop...no metal detectors, a state trooper for security.

I'm sure Donald Trump has many outdoor venues without anything but standard security.

 

[westwall]

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Are you aware crime is at 30 year lows? Stop trying to scare people, the numbers don't support it.

Funny...crime is at 30 year lows as over 12.8 million people now carry guns for self defense.....asswipe.

So why are you so scared? You've never even needed to defend yourself. Stop selling fear.

So why do you have car insurance. Stop living in fear. Stop trying to defend your property in the event you screw up and kill somebody due to your negligence.

 

[FJO]

Why do they call it "SECRET" Service? Those half dozen burly brutes surrounding the President are plainly visible, nothing secret about them.

The only secret is WHY? The line of succession is clearly defined. Is the Vice President such a dolt that he could not replace the Big Guy? Would the loss of the Big Guy send he world in a tail spin? Would the loss of the Big Guy cause tears ti shed?

 

[Brain357]

And any sane person says that's really dumb. The average American doesn't have foreign countries that would like him dead. Of course the president needs protection.

The average American does have criminals who rape, rob, beat and murder them.....

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Do the math. Almost no rapes are even defensable with a gun. You can't really be this stupid.

What planet do you reside upon? I'm really curious? Here in Nevada there was a woman who had a CCW but she was on UNR property so couldn't carry her weapon so she was raped just down the block from the campus PD. The perp who raped her then kidnapped, raped and murdered a beautiful young woman named Brianna Denison. Just imagine if the woman he raped first had had her weapon. Brianna would still be alive and the perp either the one in the ground or in prison.

You're a fucking moron.


James Biela | Murderpedia, the encyclopedia of murderers

That was seven years ago. You had to go back that far to find one?

 

[Brain357]

Not very often unless you are involved in criminal activity. That is a lot different than whole countries potentially targeting you. The comparison is childish.

Yes...tell that to the rape victim.....the kidnap and robbery victims asswipe.

Are you aware crime is at 30 year lows? Stop trying to scare people, the numbers don't support it.

Funny...crime is at 30 year lows as over 12.8 million people now carry guns for self defense.....asswipe.

So why are you so scared? You've never even needed to defend yourself. Stop selling fear.

So why do you have car insurance. Stop living in fear. Stop trying to defend your property in the event you screw up and kill somebody due to your negligence.

It's the law.

 

[nicolondon]

That's the answer just make it law for everyone to have a gun and carry it around like in some Western. It seems that 300 million guns isn't enough, just let everyone pack a weapon, marvellous, what could go wrong? Do people really want to live in that type of world, do Americans want to live in constant fear of having their head blown off by someone whose having a bad day. And this is supposed to be "freedom". Any country that gave the world Frasier is alright by me, love your country, hate your gun laws, just imagine how utterly brilliant America would be without these terrible gun murder rates.

 

[Missourian]

So why do you have car insurance. Stop living in fear. Stop trying to defend your property in the event you screw up and kill somebody due to your negligence.

I haven't had a flat in 15 years...but I still carry a spare, just in case.

 

[Obiwan]

Why do they call it "SECRET" Service? Those half dozen burly brutes surrounding the President are plainly visible, nothing secret about them.

The only secret is WHY? The line of succession is clearly defined. Is the Vice President such a dolt that he could not replace the Big Guy? Would the loss of the Big Guy send he world in a tail spin? Would the loss of the Big Guy cause tears ti shed?

Remember, you're talking about BIDEN as the VP...

You know, the clown that keeps making stupid statements and can't keep his tongue out of underage girls' ears...