Causes of Suffering

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    I just read this, and I thought it was interesting. Supposedly, there are four types of suffering a Christian experiences:

    1) Death to Self- It is very painful to give up your own will and choose to follow Jesus. This is the basic choice in becoming a Christian. God puts us through this to test our will, to make us show Him where our loyalty lies.

    2) The Cross-When Jesus carried His cross, he was alone, mocked, and persecuted. Our cross is the persecution, mockery, judgment, and hatred of the people around us, even in our own families, that we incur when we turn away from the world and choose to follow Him.

    3) Sin- when we sin, we suffer the heart pain of being separated from God. Sin also has consequences, which we must bear.

    4) Refiner's Fire- this type of suffering is "undeserved." This is something that God puts us through to teach us, purify & empty us, to "refine us like gold."
     
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    Thanks---a pretty good outline to work with !
     
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    When I saw the title, I thought Mom had moved onto Buddhism! :shocked:
     
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    LOL! Not likely. I was bought and paid for! :D
     
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    There are quite a few similarities between the 2 religions regarding suffering.
     
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    I hear you!
     
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    :laugh: Thanks.
     
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    Interesting. I was trying to think of some other common forms of suffering (like death or disease or crime) but most of them stem from sin, and the consequences thereof.
     
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    The second of the Four Noble Truths reads:

    <blockquote>"And this, monks is the noble truth of the origination of suffering: the craving that makes for further becoming — accompanied by passion & delight, relishing now here & now there — i.e., craving for sensual pleasure, craving for becoming, craving for non-becoming."</blockquote>

    As the Buddha swept his hand around him encompassing all he saw, he stated, "All this is empty." Not because it does not exist but, rather, beacuse it has no permanent or eternal existence. The desire or craving to cling to things as if they were permanent or eternal, only to have them slip away, is the cause of suffering.

    But, that's just my opinion.
     

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