Caught With Their Pants Down!

[Jarhead]

So...where is the evidence of major media and major political party on the other side doing the same?

I've got one.

"From: Sammon, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:23 AM
To: 054 -FNSunday; 169 -SPECIAL REPORT; 069 -Politics; 030 -Root (FoxNews.Com); 036 -FOX.WHU; 050 -Senior Producers; 051 -Producers
Subject: friendly reminder: let's not slip back into calling it the "public option"

1) Please use the term "government-run health insurance" or, when brevity is a concern, "government option," whenever possible.

2) When it is necessary to use the term "public option" (which is, after all, firmly ensconced in the nation's lexicon), use the qualifier "so-called," as in "the so-called public option."

3) Here's another way to phrase it: "The public option, which is the government-run plan."

4) When newsmakers and sources use the term "public option" in our stories, there's not a lot we can do about it, since quotes are of course sacrosanct."

LEAKED EMAIL: Fox boss caught slanting news reporting | Media Matters for America
Leaked memos cast doubt on Fox News' claim of neutrality - Press, Media - The Independent

Seems he did the right thing.

You see...NBC news reported it the way the White House wanted them to report it.

Seems Sammon wanted his team to report it without the WH spin...and call it what it was so the listeners were better informed.

You see it as a bad thing.

I see it as proper reporting.

Afterall..it WAS a government run plan...and the people deserved to know it.

Public option does not describe it properly...AT ALL.

 

[WillowTree]

asswipe is still a step up from you

Don't think so PlasmaPig. don't think so.

pigs are still on a higher level than you.

that's two. for you plasmapiggie.. two.

 

[Jarhead]

if i had it my way they ALL would have been tossed out for voting for that stupid war.

what angle you want to try next?

none..

You are the one who regurgitated that "cherry picked" intel crap.

Funny thing....

4000 men and women died due to his cherry picking intel...but the ones who said he did with assertiveness did not feel it appropriate to produce the proof of the claim....ever wonder why that is?

Like Pelosis line about the CIA lying..

Sure...the CIA lied to congress so they can act in direct conflict with te constitution....but she claims she is too busy to address it and prodcue the "proof" she had.......

But she had time to address Steroids in baseball.

You guys make me laugh.

Yes 4000 troops died for cherry picked intel. Like sending men to die for pointless endeavors has never happened ever since man was born.....

So now the CIA has been a honest and trustworthy organization?

Pelosi can go fuck herself so much as i care. Stop passing the buck onto an old woman.

So then why didnt congress produce the proof that Bush Cherry picked and killed off 4000 soldiers?
Afterall....tht would be the least they can do for the families of those fallen soldiers.....

And aagin.....please explain to me how Bush cherry picked the data from Austrailias intel? And from GB's?
How did THEIR agencies let him cherry pick it before THEIR PM's saw it?

Now THAT would have been magic!

 

[PoliticalChic]

Since when has the right wing not been extreme?

Well, it is all relative to your position, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this is
extreme:

The liberals in Congress turned the blame against the intelligence agencies hoping to discredit them. Idaho Democrat Senator Frank Church, explaining he had learned “the lessons from Vietnam,” told David Broder in the Washington Post, “…we pursued stupid policies in Asia, based on ignorance and an irrelevant ideological view of the world. …trying to ‘contain’ China, a pygmy nation…Until we learn to live with revolution, we will continue to blunder…” Frank Gregorsky, “What’s Wrong With Democratic Foreign Policy,” House Republican Study Committee paper, p. 12, 13.

a. In a series of highly publicized hearings, Senator Church excoriated the US intelligence agencies, the FBI, and the Army, hobbling them with ‘reform’ and oversights that plague the country to this day.

b. “They were very specific about their effort to destroy American intelligence [capabilities]," remembers Robert Ellsworth, a U.S. diplomat. "It was Senator Church who said our intelligence agencies were 'rogue elephants.'” frontline: rumsfeld's war: timeline - the life and times of donald rumsfeld | PBS

 

[Two Thumbs]

So...where is the evidence of major media and major political party on the other side doing the same?

I've got one.

"From: Sammon, Bill
Sent: Tuesday, October 27, 2009 8:23 AM
To: 054 -FNSunday; 169 -SPECIAL REPORT; 069 -Politics; 030 -Root (FoxNews.Com); 036 -FOX.WHU; 050 -Senior Producers; 051 -Producers
Subject: friendly reminder: let's not slip back into calling it the "public option"

1) Please use the term "government-run health insurance" or, when brevity is a concern, "government option," whenever possible.

2) When it is necessary to use the term "public option" (which is, after all, firmly ensconced in the nation's lexicon), use the qualifier "so-called," as in "the so-called public option."

3) Here's another way to phrase it: "The public option, which is the government-run plan."

4) When newsmakers and sources use the term "public option" in our stories, there's not a lot we can do about it, since quotes are of course sacrosanct."

LEAKED EMAIL: Fox boss caught slanting news reporting | Media Matters for America
Leaked memos cast doubt on Fox News' claim of neutrality - Press, Media - The Independent

CONGRATUALTIONS!!!

You have won the idiot of the post award!!!

Just after we announced that a TV station is not the same thing as a politiacal party. YOU post up with yet ANOTHER link to a TV station doing the same thing as the DNC.





Wow, you can't write this kind of stuff.

 

[Mr. Peepers]

Public option does not describe it properly...AT ALL

The public option part of the bill was dropped due to the squeal of the parasite insurance corporations and stupidly, Obama dropped it. That is, after all, what everyone wanted. Fox was, is and always will be dishonest and biased in its reporting. That's just the facts.

 

[8537]

When it's an outright lie.

How about that? Of course, you wouldn't care.

And imagine, the lap dog press is in on it....

Some of the proposed Republican cuts are extreme. That's just a fact.

Prove it.

Link up or lay it out.

$61 Billion is 2 work weeks of cost. It's comically low and $39 Billion less than they wanted.

The reps comprimised and the dems picked party of YOU.

Cutting 2.9 of a 4.4B CDBG budget is rather extreme, don't ya think?
Community development funding poses dilemma for Republicans - Los Angeles Times

 

[Mr. Peepers]

CONGRATUALTIONS!!!

You have won the idiot of the post award!!!

Just after we announced that a TV station is not the same thing as a politiacal party. YOU post up with yet ANOTHER link to a TV station doing the same thing as the DNC.

So...where is the evidence of major media and major political party on the other side doing the same?

You don't do well with reading comprehension, do you? Look at the quote I responded to above, numbnuts. Now go back and read the quote I posted and my response again. You dumb righties are killing me here!

 

[westwall]

then you didnt get.

Pc: they are taking marching orders
PB: ya so...

point being their is no real outrage here...its stupid.

This is the simplest I can put it: we all come to the USMB because we believe in the marketplace of ideas, that hashing it out shows the rectitude of our argument.

The organized Left, the Democrat Party, the MSM, they do not believe in that principle. Rather, they beleive in shutting down, shutting off, opposition.

Shumer, the 'caucus,' the journolist, the NYTimes, Media Matters and Soros, etc. are totalitarian in their outlook.

If you don't see that as being disreputable, then the cynicism has destroyed your soul.

See what i mean? PC is trying to take a normal issue and create some grand conspiracy with the left and the dems. To actually take what she is saying seriously is basically a waste of time. Therefore " whats your point" was perfectly fine to get across with this stupid meaningless OP.

yeah i understood your point in your Op.
do you have anything beyond mindless conspiracy?

Mindless implies it isn't true. These guys are pretty much shoving their collusion in your face. You're the one choosing to ignore and minimize its implications. What the heck do you post for? Just crawl back under your rock and go la la la to your hearst content.

 

[Jarhead]

[Public option does not describe it properly...AT ALL./QUOTE]

The public option part of the bill was dropped due to the squeal of the parasite insurance corporations and stupidy, Obama dropped it. That is, after all, what everyone wanted. Fox was, is and always will be dishonest and biased in its reporting. That's just the facts.

wrong.

That was not dishonest at all.

The public option was to be government run...making it a goivernment run plan.

What was so dishonest about that?

LMAO...you are so fucking pathetic. You only regurgitate left wing shit...I really dont have the patients for your bullshit anymore peepers.

I used to see you as cute and adorable.

Now I see you as a real pathetic lonely soul.

 

[BlindBoo]

I'm not surprised. Schumer is one of the dirtiest & corrupt Politicians we have in our Government. "Extreme" & "Racist" are mandatory Democrat buzz-words. They know the Dummies in this country eat that shit up. All i can say is...Make 2012 count people. Time to boot some Democrats.

Many libertarians will tell you it's also well past time to boot many Republicans too.

Is there really a difference between Democrat Statist and a Republican Statist?

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Since when has the right wing not been extreme?

Well, we don't run around peddling debunked green agendas, failed collectivist ideology or policing peoples words and thoughts through stacked courts.. but hey.. we try!

lol oh man...thats some rich bullshit.

Oh, you'd like to argue that conservatives are pushing green nonsense, socialism and idiotic hate speech laws?

This oughtta be good...

 

[R.D.]

least you admit you are dishonest

Where?

I don't even admit you are dishonest, or JFK_USA. Just stupid, but I am willing to give you both the benefit of doubt you come by it honestly.

in saying you win by doing nothing? thats not even a refute...
hack

I almost feel bad - are you really that clueless?

Here, for you.

Feel better?

 

[Mr. Peepers]

The public option was to be government run...making it a goivernment run plan.

Not true, there were many on the table including not for profit insurance or co-op coupled with coverage for the destitute. It absolutely did not mean government health care.

 

[Two Thumbs]

least you admit you are dishonest

Where?

I don't even admit you are dishonest, or JFK_USA. Just stupid, but I am willing to give you both the benefit of doubt you come by it honestly.

in saying you win by doing nothing? thats not even a refute...
hack

You melted, R.D. didn't.

R.D. wins.
You lose

Better luck next time

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Where?

I don't even admit you are dishonest, or JFK_USA. Just stupid, but I am willing to give you both the benefit of doubt you come by it honestly.

in saying you win by doing nothing? thats not even a refute...
hack

I almost feel bad - are you really that clueless?

Here, for you.

Feel better?

Yes, yes he is. I can only hope he's really young... otherwise... oh brother.

 

[Jarhead]

The public option was to be government run...making it a goivernment run plan.

Not true, there were many on the table including not for profit insurance or co-op coupled with coverage for the destitute. It absolutely did not mean government health care.

uh...peepers...

THE PUBLIC OPTION WAS TO BE GOVERNMENT RUN

The CO-OPS WERE TO BE RUN AND REGULATED BY THE GOVERNMENT

there was nothing wrong with a news producer ensuring his reporters do not lett the public fall for the expected political spin and rhetoric.

Please tell me what was wrong with Foix News referring to the GOVERNMENT RUN public option as a GOVERNMENT RUN option?

Would you have preferred they say it as "the public option will be government run" as opposed to "the government run plan"?

 

[R.D.]

I'm not surprised. Schumer is one of the dirtiest & corrupt Politicians we have in our Government. "Extreme" & "Racist" are mandatory Democrat buzz-words. They know the Dummies in this country eat that shit up. All i can say is...Make 2012 count people. Time to boot some Democrats.

Many libertarians will tell you it's also well past time to boot many Republicans too.

Is there really a difference between Democrat Statist and a Republican Statist?

No.

Term limits

 

[Mr. Peepers]

uh...peepers...

THE PUBLIC OPTION WAS TO BE GOVERNMENT RUN

The CO-OPS WERE TO BE RUN AND REGULATED BY THE GOVERNMENT

there was nothing wrong with a news producer ensuring his reporters do not lett the public fall for the expected political spin and rhetoric.

Please tell me what was wrong with Foix News referring to the GOVERNMENT RUN public option as a GOVERNMENT RUN option?

Would you have preferred they say it as "the public option will be government run" as opposed to "the government run plan"?

Bullshit. It didn't get far enough into research to have a fixed "plan". It DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE GOVERNMENT RUN. IT CAN BE A CO-OP OR A NOT FOR PROFIT PRIVATE ENTITY. Many other advanced countries have mixes of these insurance options. Besides, governmen or not, the people want a public option and they will get one some day - probably sooner than later. The insurance industry has been robbing people of health and money for far too long now, and I will celebrate in my late grandmother's honor when it happens. That, you may be sure.

 

[Two Thumbs]

Some of the proposed Republican cuts are extreme. That's just a fact.

Prove it.

Link up or lay it out.

$61 Billion is 2 work weeks of cost. It's comically low and $39 Billion less than they wanted.

The reps comprimised and the dems picked party of YOU.

Cutting 2.9 of a 4.4B CDBG budget is rather extreme, don't ya think?
Community development funding poses dilemma for Republicans - Los Angeles Times

Let me explain to you what that basically says.

Poor people are not capable of taking care of themselves or thier neighbors so the government must do it for them.

Please excuse me for feeling insulted.