Can you feel the approaching danger ?

[Mineva]

Feel the danger it in your veins.

 

[Daniyel]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

 

[MJB12741]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

I have no problem with radical Islamists killing each other in their own countries. In fact I root for both sides to win. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

 

[RoccoR]

Mineva, et al,

It is an interesting dissertation. But clearly it is, one-sided.

Feel the danger it in your veins.

(COMMENT)

Tayyip Erdoğan (President of Turkey --- a self proclaim Islamic conservative) states that "Israel is pouring bombs on Gaza" then asks the question: "why does the UN exist?"

He is attempting to paint the picture that Israel is the villain and Gaza is the victim; with the UN being the silent observer that should do something the rectify the situation.

The fallacy here is that the Arabs of Gaza are not the victim (not at all); but the villain. He acts as if the Arab-Israeli conflict started with the Israeli response to Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) aggression; which it did not.

How does President Erdoğan think of the Jewish People?

In 1974, Erdogan, while serving as president of the Istanbul Youth Groupof his mentor, former Prime Minister Erbakan's National Salvation Party, wrote, directed, and played the leading role in a theatrical play entitled Maskomya, staged throughout Turkey during the 1970s. Mas-Kom-Ya was a compound acronym for "Masons-Communists-Yahudi" - the latter meaning "Jews." The play focused on the evil, conspiratorial nature of these three entities whose common denominator was Judaism.

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The HoAP has nearly always been on the opposite side of the position taken by the Allied Powers and the UN. During WWI, the Arab Leader Amin al-Husseini was a commissioned officer in the Ottoman Army; before he found religious enlightenment. Al-Husseini was later to become the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem; when he helped organize the Riots and became a benefactor of Izz ad-din al-Qassam who lead the Palestinian Black Hand. In WWII, he supported the Axis Powers and made an effort to recruit Muslims for the Third Reich and was instrumental in the establishment of the 13th SS Handschar Division (All Muslim). Amin al-Husseini's connections with the Axis Powers during WWII is well documented. He was not supporting the Allied Powers in any way, in fact it was the exact opposite. This was the leader the HoAP chose to be the first President of the "Allied Palestine Government" (APG). Incidentally, the first Prime Minister of the APG was Ahmed Hilmi Pasha, a former General in the Ottoman Army. Very few of the actual leaders of the HoAP community were allies to the Western Powers in either the WWI or WWII. (Why did the LoN and UN remain silent?)

More that a half century ago, the UN Palestine Commission observed that "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." (Remember the question: "Why does the UN exist?" --- and Present Erdogan's follow-on statement: "Unfortunately the Islamic World is also keeping silent.") As he says, "the Islamic World is merely watching" and he implies to some secret agenda (undefined by him). It is a good propaganda speech. It is built around a very famous adage that --- "All that is needed for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." (From Sir Edmund Burke) Yet again, this presumes that the Israelis are "evil" in a fashion. This is a variation on the theme used by the Axis Powers in the mid-20th Century - demonizing and dehumanizing the target of oppression; just as the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda did in that same timeframe. "Propaganda tries to force a doctrine on the whole people... Propaganda works on the general public from the standpoint of an idea and makes them ripe for the victory of this idea." [Mein Kampf (1926)]

The reasons why the various players in the Arab-Israeli Conflict act the why they do is a matter of perspective. While President Erdoğan is using the excuse of "peace" --- he is actually trying to shame the Muslim Leaders and provoke a conflict between the Western Powers --- Israel and the various Arab nations in the Region. He is in a disguised way, playing the "Religious War Card." Now that DAESH/ISIS is on their back door, you will notice how quiet Turkey as become since this speech.

​

Turkey on Tuesday called for determined action from NATO member states against the “significant” threat posed by Islamic State jihadists who have taken swathes of Iraq and Syria up to its borders.

Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said in Antalya that the threat from I.S. to the south of the NATO alliance’s borders would be a key issue when its top diplomats hold a two-day meeting from Wednesday. He praised a plan—still yet to be realized—for moderate Syrian opposition to be trained and equipped on Turkish territory in cooperation with the United States but said more was needed.

“This will be effective but this will not be enough on its own and we have to take further steps,” he told a news conference ahead of the meeting, adding that measures like airstrikes were also not sufficient alone. “In order to eradicate terrorism we need to deal with the grassroots of terrorism,” he added, without elaborating further on the nature of the steps required.

Turkey has in the past called for the creation of a security zone inside Syria to protect its borders. But the idea has received just lukewarm support from its Western allies.

Turkey, the sole Muslim majority member of NATO, has been criticized for itself not taking harder steps against I.S. with some commentators even questioning its future in the alliance. SOURCE: Ozan Kose—AFP May 14, 2015 Turkey Urges Action Against "Islamic State Threat"

Not so mouthy about the Western Powers now --- are they?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Roudy]

Mineva, et al,

It is an interesting dissertation. But clearly it is, one-sided.

Feel the danger it in your veins.

(COMMENT)

Tayyip Erdoğan (President of Turkey --- a self proclaim Islamic conservative) states that "Israel is pouring bombs on Gaza" then asks the question: "why does the UN exist?"

He is attempting to paint the picture that Israel is the villain and Gaza is the victim; with the UN being the silent observer that should do something the rectify the situation.

The fallacy here is that the Arabs of Gaza are not the victim (not at all); but the villain. He acts as if the Arab-Israeli conflict started with the Israeli response to Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) aggression; which it did not.

How does President Erdoğan think of the Jewish People?

In 1974, Erdogan, while serving as president of the Istanbul Youth Groupof his mentor, former Prime Minister Erbakan's National Salvation Party, wrote, directed, and played the leading role in a theatrical play entitled Maskomya, staged throughout Turkey during the 1970s. Mas-Kom-Ya was a compound acronym for "Masons-Communists-Yahudi" - the latter meaning "Jews." The play focused on the evil, conspiratorial nature of these three entities whose common denominator was Judaism.

Read more: Blog Israeli Ambassador Confirms Erdogan Hates Us Religiously
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The HoAP has nearly always been on the opposite side of the position taken by the Allied Powers and the UN. During WWI, the Arab Leader Amin al-Husseini was a commissioned officer in the Ottoman Army; before he found religious enlightenment. Al-Husseini was later to become the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem; when he helped organize the Riots and became a benefactor of Izz ad-din al-Qassam who lead the Palestinian Black Hand. In WWII, he supported the Axis Powers and made an effort to recruit Muslims for the Third Reich and was instrumental in the establishment of the 13th SS Handschar Division (All Muslim). Amin al-Husseini's connections with the Axis Powers during WWII is well documented. He was not supporting the Allied Powers in any way, in fact it was the exact opposite. This was the leader the HoAP chose to be the first President of the "Allied Palestine Government" (APG). Incidentally, the first Prime Minister of the APG was Ahmed Hilmi Pasha, a former General in the Ottoman Army. Very few of the actual leaders of the HoAP community were allies to the Western Powers in either the WWI or WWII. (Why did the LoN and UN remain silent?)

More that a half century ago, the UN Palestine Commission observed that "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." (Remember the question: "Why does the UN exist?" --- and Present Erdogan's follow-on statement: "Unfortunately the Islamic World is also keeping silent.") As he says, "the Islamic World is merely watching" and he implies to some secret agenda (undefined by him). It is a good propaganda speech. It is built around a very famous adage that --- "All that is needed for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." (From Sir Edmund Burke) Yet again, this presumes that the Israelis are "evil" in a fashion. This is a variation on the theme used by the Axis Powers in the mid-20th Century - demonizing and dehumanizing the target of oppression; just as the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda did in that same timeframe. "Propaganda tries to force a doctrine on the whole people... Propaganda works on the general public from the standpoint of an idea and makes them ripe for the victory of this idea." [Mein Kampf (1926)]

The reasons why the various players in the Arab-Israeli Conflict act the why they do is a matter of perspective. While President Erdoğan is using the excuse of "peace" --- he is actually trying to shame the Muslim Leaders and provoke a conflict between the Western Powers --- Israel and the various Arab nations in the Region. He is in a disguised way, playing the "Religious War Card." Now that DAESH/ISIS is on their back door, you will notice how quiet Turkey as become since this speech.

Turkey on Tuesday called for determined action from NATO member states against the “significant” threat posed by Islamic State jihadists who have taken swathes of Iraq and Syria up to its borders.

Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said in Antalya that the threat from I.S. to the south of the NATO alliance’s borders would be a key issue when its top diplomats hold a two-day meeting from Wednesday. He praised a plan—still yet to be realized—for moderate Syrian opposition to be trained and equipped on Turkish territory in cooperation with the United States but said more was needed.

“This will be effective but this will not be enough on its own and we have to take further steps,” he told a news conference ahead of the meeting, adding that measures like airstrikes were also not sufficient alone. “In order to eradicate terrorism we need to deal with the grassroots of terrorism,” he added, without elaborating further on the nature of the steps required.

Turkey has in the past called for the creation of a security zone inside Syria to protect its borders. But the idea has received just lukewarm support from its Western allies.

Turkey, the sole Muslim majority member of NATO, has been criticized for itself not taking harder steps against I.S. with some commentators even questioning its future in the alliance. SOURCE: Ozan Kose—AFP May 14, 2015 Turkey Urges Action Against "Islamic State Threat"

Not so mouthy about the Western Powers now --- are they?

Most Respectfully,
R

Anybody interested in why we are where we are with regards to the violence, intolerance, and terrorism in the Muslim world, should read about the Palestinian Mufti. It all started with him. The Muslim version of Nazism is alive and well in the Muslim world due to this man's legacy.

Hitler s Mufti Catholic Answers

Recent work by historians and apologists has revealed that an influential, international religious leader was also an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler. His name was not Pope Pius XII but Hajj Amin al-Husseini. This Grand Mufti of Jerusalem recruited whole divisions of fanatics to fight and kill in the name of extremism.

"Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish people in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: "The Jews are yours." (Ami Isseroff and Peter FitzGerald-Morris, "The Iraq Coup Attempt of 1941, the Mufti, and the Farhud")

 

[mrjingles]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

muslims are killing each other in Iraq and Syria because of Israel?

 

[Daniyel]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

muslims are killing each other in Iraq and Syria because of Israel?

You are probably not informed about the claims it's all being funded by Israel, however the part I couldn't comprehend is why Sunnism and Shiasm can't be practiced? Ironically if it is funded by Israel I would proudly say Israel just made another achievement in religious freedom even OUTSIDE of Israel acting for Sunnism and Shiasm to be perfectly practiced.
Nailed it.

 

[mrjingles]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

muslims are killing each other in Iraq and Syria because of Israel?

You are probably not informed about the claims it's all being funded by Israel, however the part I couldn't comprehend is why Sunnism and Shiasm can't be practiced? Ironically if it is funded by Israel I would proudly say Israel just made another achievement in religious freedom even OUTSIDE of Israel acting for Sunnism and Shiasm to be perfectly practiced.
Nailed it.

I'd donate a sheckel to see two muslims kill each other

 

[MJB12741]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

muslims are killing each other in Iraq and Syria because of Israel?

You are probably not informed about the claims it's all being funded by Israel, however the part I couldn't comprehend is why Sunnism and Shiasm can't be practiced? Ironically if it is funded by Israel I would proudly say Israel just made another achievement in religious freedom even OUTSIDE of Israel acting for Sunnism and Shiasm to be perfectly practiced.
Nailed it.

I'd donate a sheckel to see two muslims kill each other

The least Israel should do is plant trees to honor each of the Palis who kill each other. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

 

[Roudy]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

muslims are killing each other in Iraq and Syria because of Israel?

You are probably not informed about the claims it's all being funded by Israel, however the part I couldn't comprehend is why Sunnism and Shiasm can't be practiced? Ironically if it is funded by Israel I would proudly say Israel just made another achievement in religious freedom even OUTSIDE of Israel acting for Sunnism and Shiasm to be perfectly practiced.
Nailed it.

Oh didn't you know? For 1400 years that Sunnis and Shiites have been slaughtering each other, it's always been those evil Jooooooos that were behind it.

 

[Roudy]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

muslims are killing each other in Iraq and Syria because of Israel?

You are probably not informed about the claims it's all being funded by Israel, however the part I couldn't comprehend is why Sunnism and Shiasm can't be practiced? Ironically if it is funded by Israel I would proudly say Israel just made another achievement in religious freedom even OUTSIDE of Israel acting for Sunnism and Shiasm to be perfectly practiced.
Nailed it.

I'd donate a sheckel to see two muslims kill each other

The least Israel should do is plant trees to honor each of the Palis who kill each other. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

Plant trees and pass the popcorn, well...maybe humus and felafel instead of popcorn.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Some of these kook Muslim "leaders" seem to suggest that the world's biggest problem is that Jews and Israel just stubbornly refuse to die.

Which is why I say fuck those Muslim "leaders" with a rasp.

 

[Roudy]

It's not only Muslim leaders. But yes, fuck them all.

 

[MJB12741]

Some of these kook Muslim "leaders" seem to suggest that the world's biggest problem is that Jews and Israel just stubbornly refuse to die.

Which is why I say fuck those Muslim "leaders" with a rasp.

I feel we should give the Muslim leaders credit where credit is due. They have united all other faiths against them.

 

[montelatici]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

I have no problem with radical Islamists killing each other in their own countries. In fact I root for both sides to win. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

You are certainly one of the most disgusting beings I have encountered on forums. Hey, but that's who you are.

 

[Roudy]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

I have no problem with radical Islamists killing each other in their own countries. In fact I root for both sides to win. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

You are certainly one of the most disgusting beings I have encountered on forums. Hey, but that's who you are.

From a dedicated Jew hater like you, that's a complement.

 

[Phoenall]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

I have no problem with radical Islamists killing each other in their own countries. In fact I root for both sides to win. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

You are certainly one of the most disgusting beings I have encountered on forums. Hey, but that's who you are.

Still not as disgusting as you you who wants the ethnically cleanse the world of the Jews so that muslims can have it all

 

[theliq]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

muslims are killing each other in Iraq and Syria because of Israel?

don't think so...more likely the real perpetrators being the US and the vacuum they left behind in Iraq..when they retreated with their tail between their legs..AS USUAL.........they always leave chaos,Afghanistan was the same........just sayin steve

 

[theliq]

Mineva, et al,

It is an interesting dissertation. But clearly it is, one-sided.

Feel the danger it in your veins.

(COMMENT)

Tayyip Erdoğan (President of Turkey --- a self proclaim Islamic conservative) states that "Israel is pouring bombs on Gaza" then asks the question: "why does the UN exist?"

He is attempting to paint the picture that Israel is the villain and Gaza is the victim; with the UN being the silent observer that should do something the rectify the situation.

The fallacy here is that the Arabs of Gaza are not the victim (not at all); but the villain. He acts as if the Arab-Israeli conflict started with the Israeli response to Hostile Arab Palestinian (HoAP) aggression; which it did not.

How does President Erdoğan think of the Jewish People?

In 1974, Erdogan, while serving as president of the Istanbul Youth Groupof his mentor, former Prime Minister Erbakan's National Salvation Party, wrote, directed, and played the leading role in a theatrical play entitled Maskomya, staged throughout Turkey during the 1970s. Mas-Kom-Ya was a compound acronym for "Masons-Communists-Yahudi" - the latter meaning "Jews." The play focused on the evil, conspiratorial nature of these three entities whose common denominator was Judaism.

Read more: Blog Israeli Ambassador Confirms Erdogan Hates Us Religiously
Follow us: @AmericanThinker on Twitter | AmericanThinker on Facebook

The HoAP has nearly always been on the opposite side of the position taken by the Allied Powers and the UN. During WWI, the Arab Leader Amin al-Husseini was a commissioned officer in the Ottoman Army; before he found religious enlightenment. Al-Husseini was later to become the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem; when he helped organize the Riots and became a benefactor of Izz ad-din al-Qassam who lead the Palestinian Black Hand. In WWII, he supported the Axis Powers and made an effort to recruit Muslims for the Third Reich and was instrumental in the establishment of the 13th SS Handschar Division (All Muslim). Amin al-Husseini's connections with the Axis Powers during WWII is well documented. He was not supporting the Allied Powers in any way, in fact it was the exact opposite. This was the leader the HoAP chose to be the first President of the "Allied Palestine Government" (APG). Incidentally, the first Prime Minister of the APG was Ahmed Hilmi Pasha, a former General in the Ottoman Army. Very few of the actual leaders of the HoAP community were allies to the Western Powers in either the WWI or WWII. (Why did the LoN and UN remain silent?)

More that a half century ago, the UN Palestine Commission observed that "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein." (Remember the question: "Why does the UN exist?" --- and Present Erdogan's follow-on statement: "Unfortunately the Islamic World is also keeping silent.") As he says, "the Islamic World is merely watching" and he implies to some secret agenda (undefined by him). It is a good propaganda speech. It is built around a very famous adage that --- "All that is needed for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing." (From Sir Edmund Burke) Yet again, this presumes that the Israelis are "evil" in a fashion. This is a variation on the theme used by the Axis Powers in the mid-20th Century - demonizing and dehumanizing the target of oppression; just as the Reich Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda did in that same timeframe. "Propaganda tries to force a doctrine on the whole people... Propaganda works on the general public from the standpoint of an idea and makes them ripe for the victory of this idea." [Mein Kampf (1926)]

The reasons why the various players in the Arab-Israeli Conflict act the why they do is a matter of perspective. While President Erdoğan is using the excuse of "peace" --- he is actually trying to shame the Muslim Leaders and provoke a conflict between the Western Powers --- Israel and the various Arab nations in the Region. He is in a disguised way, playing the "Religious War Card." Now that DAESH/ISIS is on their back door, you will notice how quiet Turkey as become since this speech.

Turkey on Tuesday called for determined action from NATO member states against the “significant” threat posed by Islamic State jihadists who have taken swathes of Iraq and Syria up to its borders.

Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said in Antalya that the threat from I.S. to the south of the NATO alliance’s borders would be a key issue when its top diplomats hold a two-day meeting from Wednesday. He praised a plan—still yet to be realized—for moderate Syrian opposition to be trained and equipped on Turkish territory in cooperation with the United States but said more was needed.

“This will be effective but this will not be enough on its own and we have to take further steps,” he told a news conference ahead of the meeting, adding that measures like airstrikes were also not sufficient alone. “In order to eradicate terrorism we need to deal with the grassroots of terrorism,” he added, without elaborating further on the nature of the steps required.

Turkey has in the past called for the creation of a security zone inside Syria to protect its borders. But the idea has received just lukewarm support from its Western allies.

Turkey, the sole Muslim majority member of NATO, has been criticized for itself not taking harder steps against I.S. with some commentators even questioning its future in the alliance. SOURCE: Ozan Kose—AFP May 14, 2015 Turkey Urges Action Against "Islamic State Threat"

Not so mouthy about the Western Powers now --- are they?

Most Respectfully,
R

Anybody interested in why we are where we are with regards to the violence, intolerance, and terrorism in the Muslim world, should read about the Palestinian Mufti. It all started with him. The Muslim version of Nazism is alive and well in the Muslim world due to this man's legacy.

Hitler s Mufti Catholic Answers

Recent work by historians and apologists has revealed that an influential, international religious leader was also an ardent supporter of Adolf Hitler. His name was not Pope Pius XII but Hajj Amin al-Husseini. This Grand Mufti of Jerusalem recruited whole divisions of fanatics to fight and kill in the name of extremism.

"Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish people in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: "The Jews are yours." (Ami Isseroff and Peter FitzGerald-Morris, "The Iraq Coup Attempt of 1941, the Mufti, and the Farhud")

He'd been thrown out of Palestine and was regarded as a joke,Roudy.......he wasn't the brightest of individuals.steve.....in fact he was an Idiot......but I suppose the same could be said about the Zionists and Elite Jews sharing Hitlers Bed during the same period.

 

[theliq]

So 'Shiasim' can't be practiced and 'Sunnism' can't be practiced, the blood of Muslims is being shed and its all because of Israel, what's new?

muslims are killing each other in Iraq and Syria because of Israel?

You are probably not informed about the claims it's all being funded by Israel, however the part I couldn't comprehend is why Sunnism and Shiasm can't be practiced? Ironically if it is funded by Israel I would proudly say Israel just made another achievement in religious freedom even OUTSIDE of Israel acting for Sunnism and Shiasm to be perfectly practiced.
Nailed it.

I'd donate a sheckel to see two muslims kill each other

The least Israel should do is plant trees to honor each of the Palis who kill each other. LET THERE BE PEACE ALREADY!

Silly retort MJ..I expect a little better from YOU..steve ps what's a Sheckle worth these days..not much I would imagine......which is a bit insulting you tight arse.LOL