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Trump is a vile, disgusting human being & the lowest form of human life. He 's the biggest lowlife ever elected to any office in the histoey of this Country. Not only that he's a fucking traitor.I have to say no. Not anymore.
On August 7, 2022, I would have said yes. It was possible that a person with conservative views, who only followed the mainstream media would think that the endless investigations of Trump were legitimate, and that Congress only failed to convict Trump at his two impeachment trials due to partisanship. If you only read headlines, and watch the very short television news (compared to newpapers and text media), it was possible to think, 'that Trump is a jerk who makes the GOP look bad. I'll be glad when he's gone so we can have real conservatives in charge again.'
On August 8th, the anti-Trumpers revealed themselves as the fascists they are in a way that no one can claim to still be ignorant of. If you are still joining in with the Trump bashing, you are throwing your lot in with the worst anti-Americans to ever come into power in the United States so far. They hate Trump more than they love America, at least as a democratic republic. No matter your view on this or that con vs. prog issue, the first step is to restore that democratic republic by bringing the entrenched security state under control, and make votes count fairly again.
If you think Liz Cheney is the kind of Republican you can get behind, then you are equally behind Adam Schiff and Jamie Raskin. You have been for a while, but now you cannot claim not to know it.
That's why Trump's staff allowed the FBI to check on and advise about secure storage on site. That's raid was not even close to the first time the FBI had been to Mar a Lego.If they were declassified, for which there is no evidence. But even documents that have been declassified can still have restricted access
Trump should have personally ordered an FBI raid on his political opponent? You would have congratulated him for that?Hillary should be in jail for what she did. Trump really dropped the ball on that one.
They were Senate records that Biden hid in a University, not transcripts and graduation schedules. There's a credible claim that the records Biden is hiden' include a contemporaneous allegation of rape.School documents do not belong to the Fed Govt, thus the FBI has no role at all in regards to them.
It's cute that you get personal when you're losing.You are just grasping at straws and it makes you look even more desperate than normal.
The lawyer was already there so she could not have destroyed evidence without the FBI seeing it. If They were proud of what they were doing, why hide it. Now they can say they found whatever they want to say they found.Let's say the police have legitimate evidence someone is dealing heroin. (legitimate, not made up evidence). They get a search warrant. They don't allow the one being search to call in their lawyer to oversee the raid.
Now maybe that might be a good idea but that's another discussion.
That's why Trump's staff allowed the FBI to check on and advise about secure storage on site. That's raid was not even close to the first time the FBI had been to Mar a Lego.
Trump should have personally ordered an FBI raid on his political opponent? You would have congratulated him for that?
By your logic, Trump could have given really classified docs to Trump University and the FBI hands would be tied
It's cute that you get personal when you're losing.
The lawyer was already there so she could not have destroyed evidence without the FBI seeing it. If They were proud of what they were doing, why hide it. Now they can say they found whatever they want to say they found.
Secret police are a feature of fascism, not democracy.
By all means speak for yourself, do not speak for any Democrat, Republican or Independent who did not vote for Trump in 2020, and there were many Republicans who did not vote for him then.I would distinguish between being a conservative and supporting conservative values. The notion of being a conservative approaches politics from the standpoint of identity. Supporting conservative values does so from the standpoint of ideology.
The vast majority of posters here who identify as liberal absolutely despise liberal values. This is because they are only capable of understanding what team they are on as they see politics as identity. I see a lesser tendency towards this among the conservatives, but there is also a strong attachment to identity instead of ideology.
Trump is not a pure conservative. Many of his policies have actually been liberal in nature such as his position on protecting the jobs of working people, and he is more of a populist in nature. Can "conservatives" criticize him? Sure, of course. Can liberals? Ditto.
The problem that I see is that too few people recognize the nature of the coordinated effort to take him down. The divide here isn't between conservative and liberal but between Nationalist and Globalist. Those who value our national sovereignty have every reason to be alarmed at the apparatus that has been brought into play to remove him, and this SHOULD be true for people who are actually liberal as well as conservative.
Very large "if."And if the FBI is telling the truth that advice was not being followed.
He should have hired better people. That is absolutely correct. But no need to have Hillary derangement syndrome. Why pursue a defeated opponent?Nope, he should have hired a AG that had the balls to do what needed to be done.
Irrelevant to the point.Trump U no longer exist
You admit you're losing by posting a .gif instead of a counter.How can I be losing when I get to watch you do this.
Security cameras were on all the time. Trump watched the whole thing via cameras from where he was.If the raid were so correct and by the book, why would the FBI not allow Trump's lswyercto observe? Why the demand to turn off security cameras?
Because Trump's people did not knuckle under to the FBI demands. They smelled a crooked raid.Security cameras were on all the time. Trump watched the whole thing via cameras from where he was.
If they were not on, how could there be surveillance footage the Trumps want to release?
The Hilary issue was totally different. He refused two subpoenas to return what was still at Mar O Lago after returning 15 boxes in January.Very large "if."
Why in the workd would you think the FBI is telling the truth?
He should have hired better people. That is absolutely correct. But no need to have Hillary derangement syndrome. Why pursue a defeated opponent?
Irrelevant to the point.
You admit you're losing by posting a .gif instead of a counter.
Very large "if."
Why in the workd would you think the FBI is telling the truth?
He should have hired better people. That is absolutely correct. But no need to have Hillary derangement syndrome. Why pursue a defeated opponent?
You admit you're losing by posting a .gif instead of a counter.
It is not the FBI demands. It was the demand from the National Archives which led to him returning 15 boxes in January.Because Trump's people did not knuckle under to the FBI demands. They smelled a crooked raid.
The FBI did not have anything with asking for a warrant.That is the conundrum. On one side you have the FBI which has been known to lie on warrants. On the other side you have Trump who is known to lie about everything.
Thus it seems prudent to wait till we have more information to choose a side.
Because she broke the fucking law. The idea that just because someone is a defeated opponent they are now off limits is just stupid. If I had done what she did I would be in jail.
Silly boy, I enjoy the shit out of your spinning. I know it makes me a bad person and all, but really there is no losing side here for me.
The Hilary issue was totally different. He refused two subpoenas to return what was still at Mar O Lago after returning 15 boxes in January.
Please read. There is a difference.Yes it was different. Hillary simply destroyed the evidence.
Absolutely. The Trump cult is not conservative. Neither is Trump.I have to say no. Not anymore.
On August 7, 2022, I would have said yes. It was possible that a person with conservative views, who only followed the mainstream media would think that the endless investigations of Trump were legitimate, and that Congress only failed to convict Trump at his two impeachment trials due to partisanship. If you only read headlines, and watch the very short television news (compared to newpapers and text media), it was possible to think, 'that Trump is a jerk who makes the GOP look bad. I'll be glad when he's gone so we can have real conservatives in charge again.'
On August 8th, the anti-Trumpers revealed themselves as the fascists they are in a way that no one can claim to still be ignorant of. If you are still joining in with the Trump bashing, you are throwing your lot in with the worst anti-Americans to ever come into power in the United States so far. They hate Trump more than they love America, at least as a democratic republic. No matter your view on this or that con vs. prog issue, the first step is to restore that democratic republic by bringing the entrenched security state under control, and make votes count fairly again.
If you think Liz Cheney is the kind of Republican you can get behind, then you are equally behind Adam Schiff and Jamie Raskin. You have been for a while, but now you cannot claim not to know it.
The search was illegal? Ask NARA if they would agree with you as they tried everything to get the rest of the documents, which belong to the government, back.I said it was different. It doesn't appear that Trump destroyed anything.
It's illegal period, subpoena or not.
The search was illegal? Ask NARA if they would agree with you as they tried everything to get the rest of the documents, which belong to the government, back.
