Can a orthodox or catholic be a born again Christian?

[bluzman61]

I've always wondered - If you're "born again", does that mean you get to vote twice?

The Bible has a clear answer to your question. Whatever is born of the flesh is flesh but whatever is born of the spirit is spirit. You can vote in person and you can vote in spirit. Those votes that you cast in spirit just don't get counted because of the way the votes are tallied. Spiritual votes are not detected.

My comment was meant to be a JOKE, but thank you for your answer.

 

[LittleNipper]

Catholic means UNIVERSAL. In that sense all true Christians are a part of the greater body of Christ. Of course that doesn't make every CHRISTIAN a "Roman" Catholic.

 

[rightwinger]

Those who were not born Catholic can still be saved

You can still convert before you die and be admitted to heaven

 

[22lcidw]

Catholics were not taught fire and brimstone. They were taught the Bible more on an equal footing then just the last chapter. It is more individual intensive even as part of the group from the School and Church education. Going to heaven for Christians is following the doctrine of the Bible. Many people say they are Christians but are not. I am not very good. Those who work for fiefdoms and put their salary, benefits and retirement in front of screwing around with other people are not. No matter how much they protest. This modern age opened up much more to all and in a little over 50 years we have turned demonic. Darkness and sadism pervades our entertainment with constant blasphemy to the Christian God that never ends. From cartoons to dramas to comedies to talk shows to pseudo news it is everywhere. Traditional families are lambasted with men inept in many of these vehicles. Single parent families are uplifted along with same sex marriage families. Women are a major part of this as they have been massively empowered. To those who were taught the Bible by the Catholic Schools and Church you know how bad humanity is to each other. By being Progressive Socialist without throwing out the evil in it you have condemned yourselves and you are condemning our nation and other areas to a nasty violence at some point with the potential of billions being murdered. I do not back up men who are arrogant and obnoxious and who would destroy anyone who did not go with the flow in their exact way. Even if they are on the front lines of defense. I do the same thing for women for it is worse because they are not even on the front line of defense even if the are. Being blessed is using our best to promote a better living for us all. We have become the quota and political correctness society. And went from an A plus excellence to a Samantha B plus above average party culture. In Samantha's culture...most of what she represents that are empowered have never experienced the brush with death. Even if they work in dangerous jobs in non dangerous situations. Samantha's struggle with meeting her maker was a diet. Fools!

 

[zaangalewa]

Catholic means UNIVERSAL. In that sense all true Christians are a part of the greater body of Christ. Of course that doesn't make every CHRISTIAN a "Roman" Catholic.

One god - one truth - one church ... anything else is the unability to communicate with each other and/or to find out what's really true. So what do you suggest for the unity of all Christians? To continue to powder down the christian church with "the Galilei complex" = only everyone on bis own is able to be right, while all others have for sure always to be wrong?

 

[LittleNipper]

Catholic means UNIVERSAL. In that sense all true Christians are a part of the greater body of Christ. Of course that doesn't make every CHRISTIAN a "Roman" Catholic.

One god - one truth - one church ... anything else is the unability to communicate with each other and/or to find out what's really true. So what do you suggest for the unity of all Christians? To continue to powder down the christian church with "the Galilei complex" = only everyone on bis own is able to be right, while all others have for sure always to be wrong?

Once a person becomes saved, GOD will show that individual what is right through a study of HIS word. People are not saved by attending "the" correct church, or asking Mary for intercession. The only thing everyone needs is JESUS. The rest will become less and less important as such seek to please the heavenly Father once they've become children of GOD and not before. I know people who did not believe the Flood was real, or that Moses ever lived in Egypt. However, once they became saved, in time they all came to realize such possibilities were the truth... I witnessed it in case after case. No, it didn't always happen immediately. And no it didn't happen in the same way; however, over time GOD teaches and enlightens the soul of His children in Christ. I even know not a few Roman Catholics who eventually come to attend Evangelical Bible believing churches. And each of them said that after they came to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ for their eternal security, they began to see that they were not growing spiritually in that church. They didn't leave the Roman Catholic church to be saved, they left because it became less and less relevant to their new relationship with Christ Jesus ,

 

[zaangalewa]

Catholic means UNIVERSAL. In that sense all true Christians are a part of the greater body of Christ. Of course that doesn't make every CHRISTIAN a "Roman" Catholic.

One god - one truth - one church ... anything else is the unability to communicate with each other and/or to find out what's really true. So what do you suggest for the unity of all Christians? To continue to powder down the christian church with "the Galilei complex" = only everyone on bis own is able to be right, while all others have for sure always to be wrong?

Once a person becomes saved,

Saved from what? From sick US-american thoughts?

GOD

God

will show that individual what is right through a study of HIS

his

word.

People are not saved by attending "the" correct church,

Not?

or asking Mary for intercession.

How do you know what - and what for heavens sake do you know at all? Mother Mary - and with her all women - are in the center of the church. The modern world often tries to make another kind of man out of women. But women are much more than this. Will be interesting to see you in heaven against the will of the mother of god.

The only thing everyone needs is JESUS.

No one needs a crucified criminal. But this crucified criminal offers something you should perhaps try to understand behind your blind pathos.

The rest will become less and less important

What? With Jesus everything becomes more and more important.

as such seek to please the heavenly Father once they've become children of GOD and not before. I know people who did not believe the Flood was real, or that Moses ever lived in Egypt. However, once they became saved,

I guess your word "saved" means someone agrees with your ideas. This gives you the delusion you could be right.

in time they all came to realize such possibilities were the truth... I witnessed it in case after case. No, it didn't always happen immediately. And no it didn't happen in the same way;

What means this empty phrase? What had happened?

however, over time GOD teaches and enlightens the soul of His children in Christ.

All human beings are the children of god. Some don't know this - except in the deepest depth of the own heart - that's all.

I even know not a few Roman Catholics who eventually come to attend Evangelical Bible believing churches.

What do they expect there? A TV show?

And each of them said that after they came to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ for their eternal security, they began to see that they were not growing spiritually in that church.

A good one. Even Buddhists know more about christian spiritualism than pseudo-christian US-Americans in their prayer shows.

They didn't leave the Roman Catholic church to be saved,

Meanwhile I hate this stupid word "saved". The saving of Jesus is more a kind of healing. No one is saved - everyone is able to go to hell. But god gives everyone also always a chance - even in the last second or perhaps even longer. Who is healed is better able to use this chances.

they left because it became less and less relevant to their new relationship with Christ Jesus ,

What a pathetic nonsense. Nearly no one automatically likes convertits. In no serios religion. Convertits are often more papal than the Pope. The first what someone has to learn, when he will become a Catholic, is to respect the faith and doubts of the people of the own past and also of other Catholics. And never tell anyone to be saved, only because someone becomes a Catholic. That's nonsense. A Catholic has a better chance - that's all. But when someone is not able to use the chances the church gives him - a colorful bouqet - then I fear she or he will in very most cases also not be able to use the chances, someone else is not able to give.





P.S.: To become a Catholic is just simple to be at home. So from my point of view you make people homeless.

 

[mikegriffith1]

Big grammar ouch! "Can a orthodox?" It should be "Can AN orthodox?"

Yes, an Orthodox Church member or a Catholic Church member can be a born-again Christian.

 

[Polishprince]

Can a orthodox or catholic be a born again Christian?
I think they can if they have a personal relationship with christ and are born out of water and spirit. I have friends who are in free church and they told me a Catholic can be a christian if he has a personal relationship with christ. But not all catholics are christians. And we talked about the Pope and my friend said he is not sure if he is a christian I mean the Pope but that a Catholic can be christian.

The short answer is "yes". The Born Again Christian folks will generally accept anyone who wants to get aboard- regardless of their religious background.

 

[LittleNipper]

Catholic means UNIVERSAL. In that sense all true Christians are a part of the greater body of Christ. Of course that doesn't make every CHRISTIAN a "Roman" Catholic.

One god - one truth - one church ... anything else is the unability to communicate with each other and/or to find out what's really true. So what do you suggest for the unity of all Christians? To continue to powder down the christian church with "the Galilei complex" = only everyone on bis own is able to be right, while all others have for sure always to be wrong?

Once a person becomes saved,

Saved from what? From sick US-american thoughts?

GOD

God

will show that individual what is right through a study of HIS

his

word.

People are not saved by attending "the" correct church,

Not?

or asking Mary for intercession.

How do you know what - and what for heavens sake do you know at all? Mother Mary - and with her all women - are in the center of the church. The modern world often tries to make another kind of man out of women. But women are much more than this. Will be interesting to see you in heaven against the will of the mother of god.

The only thing everyone needs is JESUS.

No one needs a crucified criminal. But this crucified criminal offers something you should perhaps try to understand behind your blind pathos.

The rest will become less and less important

What? With Jesus everything becomes more and more important.

as such seek to please the heavenly Father once they've become children of GOD and not before. I know people who did not believe the Flood was real, or that Moses ever lived in Egypt. However, once they became saved,

I guess your word "saved" means someone agrees with your ideas. This gives you the delusion you could be right.

in time they all came to realize such possibilities were the truth... I witnessed it in case after case. No, it didn't always happen immediately. And no it didn't happen in the same way;

What means this empty phrase? What had happened?

however, over time GOD teaches and enlightens the soul of His children in Christ.

All human beings are the children of god. Some don't know this - except in the deepest depth of the own heart - that's all.

I even know not a few Roman Catholics who eventually come to attend Evangelical Bible believing churches.

What do they expect there? A TV show?

And each of them said that after they came to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ for their eternal security, they began to see that they were not growing spiritually in that church.

A good one. Even Buddhists know more about christian spiritualism than pseudo-christian US-Americans in their prayer shows.

They didn't leave the Roman Catholic church to be saved,

Meanwhile I hate this stupid word "saved". The saving of Jesus is more a kind of healing. No one is saved - everyone is able to go to hell. But god gives everyone also always a chance - even in the last second or perhaps even longer. Who is healed is better able to use this chances.

they left because it became less and less relevant to their new relationship with Christ Jesus ,

What a pathetic nonsense. Nearly no one automatically likes convertits. In no serios religion. Convertits are often more papal than the Pope. The first what someone has to learn, when he will become a Catholic, is to respect the faith and doubts of the people of the own past and also of other Catholics. And never tell anyone to be saved, only because someone becomes a Catholic. That's nonsense. A Catholic has a better chance - that's all. But when someone is not able to use the chances the church gives him - a colorful bouqet - then I fear she or he will in very most cases also not be able to use the chances, someone else is not able to give.





P.S.: To become a Catholic is just simple to be at home. So from my point of view you make people homeless.

Genesis 2:15-17
15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden. 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

Romans 3:23 Context

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in HIS (God's) sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by His (God's) grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in HIS (Jesus') blood, to declare HIS (Jesus') righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time His (Jesus') righteousness: that He (Jesus) might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Romans 6:23 Context

20 For when you were the servants of sin, you were free from righteousness. 21 What fruit had you then in those things whereof you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, you have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

 

[zaangalewa]

Catholic means UNIVERSAL. In that sense all true Christians are a part of the greater body of Christ. Of course that doesn't make every CHRISTIAN a "Roman" Catholic.

One god - one truth - one church ... anything else is the unability to communicate with each other and/or to find out what's really true. So what do you suggest for the unity of all Christians? To continue to powder down the christian church with "the Galilei complex" = only everyone on bis own is able to be right, while all others have for sure always to be wrong?

Once a person becomes saved,

Saved from what? From sick US-american thoughts?

GOD

God

will show that individual what is right through a study of HIS

his

word.

People are not saved by attending "the" correct church,

Not?

or asking Mary for intercession.

How do you know what - and what for heavens sake do you know at all? Mother Mary - and with her all women - are in the center of the church. The modern world often tries to make another kind of man out of women. But women are much more than this. Will be interesting to see you in heaven against the will of the mother of god.

The only thing everyone needs is JESUS.

No one needs a crucified criminal. But this crucified criminal offers something you should perhaps try to understand behind your blind pathos.

The rest will become less and less important

What? With Jesus everything becomes more and more important.

as such seek to please the heavenly Father once they've become children of GOD and not before. I know people who did not believe the Flood was real, or that Moses ever lived in Egypt. However, once they became saved,

I guess your word "saved" means someone agrees with your ideas. This gives you the delusion you could be right.

in time they all came to realize such possibilities were the truth... I witnessed it in case after case. No, it didn't always happen immediately. And no it didn't happen in the same way;

What means this empty phrase? What had happened?

however, over time GOD teaches and enlightens the soul of His children in Christ.

All human beings are the children of god. Some don't know this - except in the deepest depth of the own heart - that's all.

I even know not a few Roman Catholics who eventually come to attend Evangelical Bible believing churches.

What do they expect there? A TV show?

And each of them said that after they came to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ for their eternal security, they began to see that they were not growing spiritually in that church.

A good one. Even Buddhists know more about christian spiritualism than pseudo-christian US-Americans in their prayer shows.

They didn't leave the Roman Catholic church to be saved,

Meanwhile I hate this stupid word "saved". The saving of Jesus is more a kind of healing. No one is saved - everyone is able to go to hell. But god gives everyone also always a chance - even in the last second or perhaps even longer. Who is healed is better able to use this chances.

they left because it became less and less relevant to their new relationship with Christ Jesus ,

What a pathetic nonsense. Nearly no one automatically likes convertits. In no serios religion. Convertits are often more papal than the Pope. The first what someone has to learn, when he will become a Catholic, is to respect the faith and doubts of the people of the own past and also of other Catholics. And never tell anyone to be saved, only because someone becomes a Catholic. That's nonsense. A Catholic has a better chance - that's all. But when someone is not able to use the chances the church gives him - a colorful bouqet - then I fear she or he will in very most cases also not be able to use the chances, someone else is not able to give.





P.S.: To become a Catholic is just simple to be at home. So from my point of view you make people homeless.

Genesis 2:15-17
15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden. 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

Romans 3:23 Context

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in HIS (God's) sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by His (God's) grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in HIS (Jesus') blood, to declare HIS (Jesus') righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time His (Jesus') righteousness: that He (Jesus) might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Romans 6:23 Context

20 For when you were the servants of sin, you were free from righteousness. 21 What fruit had you then in those things whereof you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, you have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

No idea what you like to say. Say it with your own words.

 

[LittleNipper]

Catholic means UNIVERSAL. In that sense all true Christians are a part of the greater body of Christ. Of course that doesn't make every CHRISTIAN a "Roman" Catholic.

One god - one truth - one church ... anything else is the unability to communicate with each other and/or to find out what's really true. So what do you suggest for the unity of all Christians? To continue to powder down the christian church with "the Galilei complex" = only everyone on bis own is able to be right, while all others have for sure always to be wrong?

Once a person becomes saved,

Saved from what? From sick US-american thoughts?

GOD

God

will show that individual what is right through a study of HIS

his

word.

People are not saved by attending "the" correct church,

Not?

or asking Mary for intercession.

How do you know what - and what for heavens sake do you know at all? Mother Mary - and with her all women - are in the center of the church. The modern world often tries to make another kind of man out of women. But women are much more than this. Will be interesting to see you in heaven against the will of the mother of god.

The only thing everyone needs is JESUS.

No one needs a crucified criminal. But this crucified criminal offers something you should perhaps try to understand behind your blind pathos.

The rest will become less and less important

What? With Jesus everything becomes more and more important.

as such seek to please the heavenly Father once they've become children of GOD and not before. I know people who did not believe the Flood was real, or that Moses ever lived in Egypt. However, once they became saved,

I guess your word "saved" means someone agrees with your ideas. This gives you the delusion you could be right.

in time they all came to realize such possibilities were the truth... I witnessed it in case after case. No, it didn't always happen immediately. And no it didn't happen in the same way;

What means this empty phrase? What had happened?

however, over time GOD teaches and enlightens the soul of His children in Christ.

All human beings are the children of god. Some don't know this - except in the deepest depth of the own heart - that's all.

I even know not a few Roman Catholics who eventually come to attend Evangelical Bible believing churches.

What do they expect there? A TV show?

And each of them said that after they came to trust in the Lord Jesus Christ for their eternal security, they began to see that they were not growing spiritually in that church.

A good one. Even Buddhists know more about christian spiritualism than pseudo-christian US-Americans in their prayer shows.

They didn't leave the Roman Catholic church to be saved,

Meanwhile I hate this stupid word "saved". The saving of Jesus is more a kind of healing. No one is saved - everyone is able to go to hell. But god gives everyone also always a chance - even in the last second or perhaps even longer. Who is healed is better able to use this chances.

they left because it became less and less relevant to their new relationship with Christ Jesus ,

What a pathetic nonsense. Nearly no one automatically likes convertits. In no serios religion. Convertits are often more papal than the Pope. The first what someone has to learn, when he will become a Catholic, is to respect the faith and doubts of the people of the own past and also of other Catholics. And never tell anyone to be saved, only because someone becomes a Catholic. That's nonsense. A Catholic has a better chance - that's all. But when someone is not able to use the chances the church gives him - a colorful bouqet - then I fear she or he will in very most cases also not be able to use the chances, someone else is not able to give.





P.S.: To become a Catholic is just simple to be at home. So from my point of view you make people homeless.

Genesis 2:15-17
15 The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it. 16 And the Lord God commanded the man, “You are free to eat from any tree in the garden. 17 but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”

Romans 3:23 Context

20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in HIS (God's) sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: 23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; 24 Being justified freely by His (God's) grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in HIS (Jesus') blood, to declare HIS (Jesus') righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; 26 To declare, I say, at this time His (Jesus') righteousness: that He (Jesus) might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.

Romans 6:23 Context

20 For when you were the servants of sin, you were free from righteousness. 21 What fruit had you then in those things whereof you are now ashamed? For the end of those things is death. 22 But now being made free from sin, and become servants to God, you have your fruit unto holiness, and the end everlasting life. 23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

No idea what you like to say. Say it with your own words.

And this from an individual who posts YouTube shorts of an old monk, views of interesting architectural elements and Latin hymns?
If you don't know what you're saved from -- perhaps you need to read more of GOD's Holy Word, and depend less upon Gregorian chants for "inspiration."

 

[zaangalewa]

...
And this from an individual who posts YouTube shorts of an old monk, views of interesting architectural elements and Latin hymns?
If you don't know what you're saved from -- perhaps you need to read more of GOD's Holy Word, and depend less upon Gregorian chants for "inspiration."

And still I do not have any idea what you like to say. Your view to bible is strange to me. I miss your background.

Example: Eve did perhaps not know that it is forbidden to take a fruit from the tree of cognition of right and wrong, of true and false, of good and evil. And I ask myselve, why god did not plant this tree into a dimension of the paradise, where Adam and Eve were not able to take a fruit from this tree. And god knew for sure what will happen - he's allknowing. So I think it was somehow the will of god to break this rule, which he (or they) gave to Adam and Eve. But why? And what means it really? Means it that death came into the world - or means it death was yet in the world, but then we were able to see the death and also the nakedness of the death, which expects us. Is this the reason why god gave clothings ... ? What could be a good question in this context. Perhaps: "What is the church? Our god given clothing?" ...

 

[Taz]

...
And this from an individual who posts YouTube shorts of an old monk, views of interesting architectural elements and Latin hymns?
If you don't know what you're saved from -- perhaps you need to read more of GOD's Holy Word, and depend less upon Gregorian chants for "inspiration."

And still I do not have any idea what you like to say. Your view to bible is strange to me. I miss your background.

Example: Eve did perhaps not know that it is forbidden to take a fruit from the tree of cognition of right and wrong, of true and false, of good and evil. And I ask myselve, why god did not plant this tree into a dimension of the paradise, where Adam and Eve were not able to take a fruit from this tree. And god knew for sure what will happen - he's allknowing. So I think it was somehow the will of god to break this rule, which he (or they) gave to Adam and Eve. But why? And what means it really? Means it that death came into the world - or means it death was yet in the world, but then we were able to see the death and also the nakedness of the death, which expects us. Is this the reason why god gave clothings ... ? What could be a good question in this context. Perhaps: "What is the church? Our god given clothing?" ...

It’s because the bible makes god out to be full of shit, and enjoyed tripping up Adam and Eve.

 

[zaangalewa]

...
And this from an individual who posts YouTube shorts of an old monk, views of interesting architectural elements and Latin hymns?
If you don't know what you're saved from -- perhaps you need to read more of GOD's Holy Word, and depend less upon Gregorian chants for "inspiration."

And still I do not have any idea what you like to say. Your view to bible is strange to me. I miss your background.

Example: Eve did perhaps not know that it is forbidden to take a fruit from the tree of cognition of right and wrong, of true and false, of good and evil. And I ask myselve, why god did not plant this tree into a dimension of the paradise, where Adam and Eve were not able to take a fruit from this tree. And god knew for sure what will happen - he's allknowing. So I think it was somehow the will of god to break this rule, which he (or they) gave to Adam and Eve. But why? And what means it really? Means it that death came into the world - or means it death was yet in the world, but then we were able to see the death and also the nakedness of the death, which expects us. Is this the reason why god gave clothings ... ? What could be a good question in this context. Perhaps: "What is the church? Our god given clothing?" ...

It’s because the bible makes god out to be full of shit, and enjoyed tripping up Adam and Eve.

I do not speak with you and you do not know at all what you try to speak about, Nazi.

 

[james bond]

Sorry - but Christians were not forced from god to make a bible. The papan emperor - and others - liked to have a better information about what's Christian and not. So they went through their memories and notepads and tried to find out what was authentic and not. The result was the bible - a summary of the Christian faith in books and letters (and even some songs) over hundreds of years with hundreds or thousands of authors and co-authors. But the bible itselve is indeed not essential for the Christain faith - except you try to say the Christians in the first three centuries would had not been Christians. We can live inspired without bible too. Let me say: Holy books are in general overrated - specially they are not god. Books contain messages - but what's real important are the living messengers. So let me say: The authors and co-authors are essential - in their ways, how they understood, what god said to them - but it are also essential millions and more people of all times. Their lifes are written down in the book of life. And this book is still not finished nor published.

How can you be so wrong? Is it because you're an idiot. I think so.

The men who wrote the Bible were moved to write it by the Holy Spirit. What is wrong with you? Then in the next breath, you claim a pagan emperor and others had better information of what is Christian and that the Bible is not essential to the Christian faith. The Bible is everything to the Christian faith next to Jesus. Holy guacamole!!! As for the rest, you are just trolling. Shame on you for being Catholic. You do not believe in the Catholic. Shame, shame, shame.

Is it because you're an idiot? Of course it is.

 

[james bond]

It’s because the bible makes god out to be full of shit, and enjoyed tripping up Adam and Eve.

I do not speak with you and you do not know at all what you try to speak about, Nazi.

May you spend much time with Taz to straighten out God and the Bible in your minds. Both of you have gone over the edge. One is a troll and the other wants to be a troll.

 

[ninja007]

Can an orthodox or Catholic be a born again Christian?[

A person is born again by the baptismal waters. Since all Catholics and Orthodox are baptised then they are all already born again

Read this: Born Again – The Bible Way

a person is born again accepting Christ as their personal Savior.

 

[zaangalewa]

Sorry - but Christians were not forced from god to make a bible. The papan emperor - and others - liked to have a better information about what's Christian and not. So they went through their memories and notepads and tried to find out what was authentic and not. The result was the bible - a summary of the Christian faith in books and letters (and even some songs) over hundreds of years with hundreds or thousands of authors and co-authors. But the bible itselve is indeed not essential for the Christain faith - except you try to say the Christians in the first three centuries would had not been Christians. We can live inspired without bible too. Let me say: Holy books are in general overrated - specially they are not god. Books contain messages - but what's real important are the living messengers. So let me say: The authors and co-authors are essential - in their ways, how they understood, what god said to them - but it are also essential millions and more people of all times. Their lifes are written down in the book of life. And this book is still not finished nor published.

How can you be so wrong? Is it because you're an idiot. I think so.

The men who wrote the Bible

My Jewish and Catholic ancestors?

were moved to write it by the Holy Spirit. What is wrong with you? Then in the next breath, you claim a pagan emperor and others had better information of what is Christian and that the Bible is not essential to the Christian faith.

But this was the reason. The people started to write nonsense all around the Chrisains faith. Everyone wrote his own "old" stories. The bible cleared this disaster. Perhaps we can say the situaioin was without bible in this time of history nearly the same, as the situation is today with the bible in the USA.

The Bible is everything to the Christian faith next to Jesus.

There's a little more than only the bible.

Holy guacamole!!! As for the rest, you are just trolling. Shame on you for being Catholic. You do not believe in the Catholic.

No, no. I am a totally normal Catholic.

Shame, shame, shame.

Is it because you're an idiot? Of course it is.

I guess you know that a bible was in the middle ages unbelievable expensive. Costed the same what today costs a house or so. When an unkempt woman begged at the monastery of Saint Francis, they had nothing to give. So he thought seriously about to give her their bible, because it is better to give away the bible instead not to do what's written in, he said. But his brethren did not agree.

 

[Taz]

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And this from an individual who posts YouTube shorts of an old monk, views of interesting architectural elements and Latin hymns?
If you don't know what you're saved from -- perhaps you need to read more of GOD's Holy Word, and depend less upon Gregorian chants for "inspiration."

And still I do not have any idea what you like to say. Your view to bible is strange to me. I miss your background.

Example: Eve did perhaps not know that it is forbidden to take a fruit from the tree of cognition of right and wrong, of true and false, of good and evil. And I ask myselve, why god did not plant this tree into a dimension of the paradise, where Adam and Eve were not able to take a fruit from this tree. And god knew for sure what will happen - he's allknowing. So I think it was somehow the will of god to break this rule, which he (or they) gave to Adam and Eve. But why? And what means it really? Means it that death came into the world - or means it death was yet in the world, but then we were able to see the death and also the nakedness of the death, which expects us. Is this the reason why god gave clothings ... ? What could be a good question in this context. Perhaps: "What is the church? Our god given clothing?" ...

It’s because the bible makes god out to be full of shit, and enjoyed tripping up Adam and Eve.

I do not speak with you and you do not know at all what you try to speak about, Nazi.

God was a pole smoker and didn't want Adam to bang the chick.