California students sue state over ineffective teachers

[Jackson]

California students sue state over ineffective teachers

California’s laws surrounding teacher tenure, dismissal, and layoffs violate the state’s constitution — specifically, students’ right to an equal opportunity to access quality education — say nine students suing the state. The trial is set to begin Jan. 27.
If they win, the effects could ripple across the country.

“I think any time that you see a genuine reform in California, you empower reformers everywhere in the country who realize if you can actually fix something like that in California, you can fix it anywhere,” said Ed Ring, executive director of the California Public Policy Center.

Plaintiffs argue that minority and poor students are most in need of effective teachers and least likely, in California, to be taught by them.

“Research has shown that inside the school building, nothing matters more than the quality of the teachers,” said Sandi Jacobs, vice president for National Council on Teacher Quality. “An effective teacher and a highly effective teacher make a really significant difference in the trajectory of their students, and the same is true in the negative capacity for an ineffective teacher.”

Other factors, like parents’ level of education, are also correlated with student performance, but as far as factors schools can control, teacher quality matters more than any other variable, she said.

California students sue state over ineffective teachers « Watchdog.org

Maybe this will get the nation talking. The students are going to sue California over the fact that they cannot learn with the teachers they allow in the system. Let's hope this takes hold all over the nation and the unions stop protecting teachers that have no business in education.

Better yet, the governors get rid of the unions altogether.

 

[JakeStarkey]

The state should sue the student's parents.

 

[aplcr0331]

The state should sue the student's parents.

I agree, minority and poor parents are horrible.

From the article: "Plaintiffs argue that minority and poor students are most in need of effective teachers and least likely, in California, to be taught by them"

 

[bodecea]

California students sue state over ineffective teachers

California’s laws surrounding teacher tenure, dismissal, and layoffs violate the state’s constitution — specifically, students’ right to an equal opportunity to access quality education — say nine students suing the state. The trial is set to begin Jan. 27.
If they win, the effects could ripple across the country.

“I think any time that you see a genuine reform in California, you empower reformers everywhere in the country who realize if you can actually fix something like that in California, you can fix it anywhere,” said Ed Ring, executive director of the California Public Policy Center.

Plaintiffs argue that minority and poor students are most in need of effective teachers and least likely, in California, to be taught by them.

“Research has shown that inside the school building, nothing matters more than the quality of the teachers,” said Sandi Jacobs, vice president for National Council on Teacher Quality. “An effective teacher and a highly effective teacher make a really significant difference in the trajectory of their students, and the same is true in the negative capacity for an ineffective teacher.”

Other factors, like parents’ level of education, are also correlated with student performance, but as far as factors schools can control, teacher quality matters more than any other variable, she said.

California students sue state over ineffective teachers « Watchdog.org

Maybe this will get the nation talking. The students are going to sue California over the fact that they cannot learn with the teachers they allow in the system. Let's hope this takes hold all over the nation and the unions stop protecting teachers that have no business in education.

Better yet, the governors get rid of the unions altogether.

It would be interesting to see this court case. The student better be prepared to prove they did everything they were required to do every single year at school and sought help but was denied whenever they had problems understanding. But if he just expected to be a passive container for knowledge to be poured into....he's toast....and hope he has to pick up the legal fees.

 

[Jackson]

California students sue state over ineffective teachers

California’s laws surrounding teacher tenure, dismissal, and layoffs violate the state’s constitution — specifically, students’ right to an equal opportunity to access quality education — say nine students suing the state. The trial is set to begin Jan. 27.
If they win, the effects could ripple across the country.

“I think any time that you see a genuine reform in California, you empower reformers everywhere in the country who realize if you can actually fix something like that in California, you can fix it anywhere,” said Ed Ring, executive director of the California Public Policy Center.

Plaintiffs argue that minority and poor students are most in need of effective teachers and least likely, in California, to be taught by them.

“Research has shown that inside the school building, nothing matters more than the quality of the teachers,” said Sandi Jacobs, vice president for National Council on Teacher Quality. “An effective teacher and a highly effective teacher make a really significant difference in the trajectory of their students, and the same is true in the negative capacity for an ineffective teacher.”

Other factors, like parents’ level of education, are also correlated with student performance, but as far as factors schools can control, teacher quality matters more than any other variable, she said.

California students sue state over ineffective teachers « Watchdog.org

Maybe this will get the nation talking. The students are going to sue California over the fact that they cannot learn with the teachers they allow in the system. Let's hope this takes hold all over the nation and the unions stop protecting teachers that have no business in education.

Better yet, the governors get rid of the unions altogether.

It would be interesting to see this court case. The student better be prepared to prove they did everything they were required to do every single year at school and sought help but was denied whenever they had problems understanding. But if he just expected to be a passive container for knowledge to be poured into....he's toast....and hope he has to pick up the legal fees.

Like a poster said, it will be interesting to see this in court....Jan. 27th.

 

[martybegan]

California students sue state over ineffective teachers

California’s laws surrounding teacher tenure, dismissal, and layoffs violate the state’s constitution — specifically, students’ right to an equal opportunity to access quality education — say nine students suing the state. The trial is set to begin Jan. 27.
If they win, the effects could ripple across the country.

“I think any time that you see a genuine reform in California, you empower reformers everywhere in the country who realize if you can actually fix something like that in California, you can fix it anywhere,” said Ed Ring, executive director of the California Public Policy Center.

Plaintiffs argue that minority and poor students are most in need of effective teachers and least likely, in California, to be taught by them.

“Research has shown that inside the school building, nothing matters more than the quality of the teachers,” said Sandi Jacobs, vice president for National Council on Teacher Quality. “An effective teacher and a highly effective teacher make a really significant difference in the trajectory of their students, and the same is true in the negative capacity for an ineffective teacher.”

Other factors, like parents’ level of education, are also correlated with student performance, but as far as factors schools can control, teacher quality matters more than any other variable, she said.

California students sue state over ineffective teachers « Watchdog.org

Maybe this will get the nation talking. The students are going to sue California over the fact that they cannot learn with the teachers they allow in the system. Let's hope this takes hold all over the nation and the unions stop protecting teachers that have no business in education.

Better yet, the governors get rid of the unions altogether.

It would be interesting to see this court case. The student better be prepared to prove they did everything they were required to do every single year at school and sought help but was denied whenever they had problems understanding. But if he just expected to be a passive container for knowledge to be poured into....he's toast....and hope he has to pick up the legal fees.

The schools are providing a service that is paid for by the people of the State. Why should the student have to show maxiumum effort to accuse some teachers of providing minimal effort?

I would hope those behind the lawsuit picked the proper students, but you never know.

And yes, while the parents deserve some of the blame, they ARE paying the State to educate thier children.

 

[regent]

Could bring up another law suit, with teachers suing parents.
One of the problems is that good teachers are wanted by good schools and good teachers tend to select those good0 schools. Districts have tried inducements such as combat pay and other things to get good teachers into schools that are not so good but again good teachers want schools where they can teach not spend time trying to keep control.
Another problem, if a good teacher is assigned to a bad school, they might not only leave the district and leave teaching, and a number do.
People tend to think of schools as similar to the schools they attended as students and solutions in those remembered schools can often be quite easy.

 

[Samson]

The state should sue the student's parents.

Parents should sue the state legislature for which they voted.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

One thing is for sure...we will see the unions fighting this tooth and nail...but probably not involve themselves in this case.
Afterwards....wait and see there will be a move to write legislation to make teachers exempt from lawsuits.
You can take that to the bank.

 

[Samson]

One thing is for sure...we will see the unions fighting this tooth and nail...but probably not involve themselves in this case.
Afterwards....wait and see there will be a move to write legislation to make teachers exempt from lawsuits.
You can take that to the bank.

The lawsuit is not against teachers.

Plaintiffs ask this Court to declare the "Challenged Statutes" unconstitutional on their face and as-applied and to permanently enjoin their enforcement.

Essentially the suit is asking the courts to overturn laws that conflict with the state's constitution. The plainitiffs argue that laws that protect incompetancy in teaching are against the law!

Jerry Brown (D) is a defendant.

There is no doubt Teacher Unions will actively engage the public to support continuance of the challenged statues.

 

[keyboardwarrior]

good for education ...