Bush's Wide Receiver versus Obama's Fast and Furious

[Sallow]

Notice how CON$ weave their web of deceit!!! Bush's Fast and Furious was called "Project Gunrunner" not "wide receiver" and rather than being ended in 2007 it was funded in 2008 through fiscal 2010.

You are lying... it was "wide reciever" and the guns were tracked.

No they weren't.

 

[Sallow]

According to the Wikipedia--(the online ENCYCLOPEDIA) the wide receiver program was STOPPED by the Bush administration in 2007. Fast and Furious started under the Obama administration in 2009. There was NO congressional vote on either of these programs--it was all done through the ATF--under the supervision of the Justice department.

Kenneth E. Melson was the chief director and head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in the United States.[2] He was appointed by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to head the agency on May 14, 2007.[3]
Melson has served in the United States Department of Justice as a federal prosecutor for nearly 24 years.[4] He resigned as head of the ATF after being under fire from Republicans and critics over the scandal surrounding the "Gunwalking" program of Operation Fast and Furious.[5] He was replaced by B. Todd Jones, a former Marine who has twice served as the U.S. attorney in Minnesota.
Kenneth E. Melson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which is why it's a mystery that people from the Bush administration were not included in the "hearings" :cough, cough: witchhunt:..

The BUSH JUSTICE department STOPPED THE PROGRAM you moron in 2007--because they OPENLY admitted that 450 guns were on the loose in Mexico that was a result of a failed wide receiver project. There was no investigation over it--because ALL was in the open over it--and we had a PRESIDENT who didn't try to blame someone else for it. Bush did NOT issue an executive privilege to keep any secrets and this was when Nancy Pelosi was in CHARGE of the house of representatives.

Obama/Holder come into office in 2009 and start the exact same program that the Bush Justice department stopped two years earlier and on a much more grand scale started Fast and Furious. Now ask yourself why would one President (Obama) would sign off on a project that he knew FAILED in the past--that is--without a hidden agenda attached? And the ONLY way we found out about this program was when 1 U.S. border agent was killed with one of these guns.

There's no evidence he even knew about it.

And the theory that Obama was going to use this program to "curtail" gun rights is nonsense.

If he wanted to "curtail" gun rights..there were plenty of other reasons to do so. And it would have gotten broad support.

Assault Rifles..and selling guns to crazy people and terrorists..are fucking stupid.

 

[oreo]

Which is why it's a mystery that people from the Bush administration were not included in the "hearings" :cough, cough: witchhunt:..

The BUSH JUSTICE department STOPPED THE PROGRAM you moron in 2007--because they OPENLY admitted that 450 guns were on the loose in Mexico that was a result of a failed wide receiver project. There was no investigation over it--because ALL was in the open over it--and we had a PRESIDENT who didn't try to blame someone else for it. Bush did NOT issue an executive privilege to keep any secrets and this was when Nancy Pelosi was in CHARGE of the house of representatives.

Obama/Holder come into office in 2009 and start the exact same program that the Bush Justice department stopped two years earlier and on a much more grand scale started Fast and Furious. Now ask yourself why would one President (Obama) would sign off on a project that he knew FAILED in the past--that is--without a hidden agenda attached? And the ONLY way we found out about this program was when 1 U.S. border agent was killed with one of these guns.

There's no evidence he even knew about it.

And the theory that Obama was going to use this program to "curtail" gun rights is nonsense.

If he wanted to "curtail" gun rights..there were plenty of other reasons to do so. And it would have gotten broad support.

Assault Rifles..and selling guns to crazy people and terrorists..are fucking stupid.

Obama implicated himself in this as soon as he signed of on executive privilege. Now he's either trying to cover his own ASS or that of Eric Holder's--take your pick! Documents that Eric Holder has already admitted would be VERY EMBARRASSING TO THIS ADMINISTRATION!

 

[edthecynic]

Notice how CON$ weave their web of deceit!!! Bush's Fast and Furious was called "Project Gunrunner" not "wide receiver" and rather than being ended in 2007 it was funded in 2008 through fiscal 2010.

You are lying... it was "wide reciever" and the guns were tracked.

No they weren't and the phony excuse they gave was the perps removed the trackers, which begs the question, how did they know they were there to remove? More likely that the crooked Republicans billed the taxpayer for the trackers and pocketed them, ala KBR.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Notice how CON$ weave their web of deceit!!! Bush's Fast and Furious was called "Project Gunrunner" not "wide receiver" and rather than being ended in 2007 it was funded in 2008 through fiscal 2010.

You are lying... it was "wide reciever" and the guns were tracked.

No they weren't and the phony excuse they gave was the perps removed the trackers, which begs the question, how did they know they were there to remove? More likely that the crooked Republicans billed the taxpayer for the trackers and pocketed them, ala KBR.

Yeah I can really see the Republicans pocketing the whole five hundred bucks the chips cost.

 

[The Infidel]

Notice how CON$ weave their web of deceit!!! Bush's Fast and Furious was called "Project Gunrunner" not "wide receiver" and rather than being ended in 2007 it was funded in 2008 through fiscal 2010.

You are lying... it was "wide reciever" and the guns were tracked.

No they weren't and the phony excuse they gave was the perps removed the trackers, which begs the question, how did they know they were there to remove? More likely that the crooked Republicans billed the taxpayer for the trackers and pocketed them, ala KBR.

Stop lying you prick..!

 

[RetiredGySgt]

If it passed in 2008 then a majority of Democrats must have voted for it dumb ass. Also Holder already admitted on national News Bush had no knowledge of Fast and Furious. But you keep peddling your lies.

According to the Wikipedia--(the online ENCYCLOPEDIA) the wide receiver program was STOPPED by the Bush administration in 2007. Fast and Furious started under the Obama administration in 2009. There was NO congressional vote on either of these programs--it was all done through the ATF--under the supervision of the Justice department.

2009–2011: Operation Fast and Furious

On October 26, 2009, a teleconference was held at the Department of Justice in Washington, D.C. to discuss U.S. strategy for combating Mexican drug cartels. Participating in the meeting were Deputy Attorney General David W. Ogden, Assistant Attorney General Lanny A. Breuer, ATF Director Kenneth E. Melson, Drug Enforcement Administration (DEA) Administrator Michele Leonhart, Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation Robert Mueller and the top federal prosecutors in the Southwestern border states. They decided on a strategy to identify and eliminate entire arms trafficking networks rather than low-level buyers.[3][27][28] Those at the meeting did not suggest using the "gunwalking" tactic, but ATF supervisors would soon use it in an attempt to achieve the desired goals.[29] The effort, beginning in November, would come to be called Operation Fast and Furious for the successful film franchise, because some of the suspects under investigation operated out of an auto repair store and street raced.[3]

ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Kenneth E. Melson was the chief director and head of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) in the United States.[2] He was appointed by Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to head the agency on May 14, 2007.[3]
Melson has served in the United States Department of Justice as a federal prosecutor for nearly 24 years.[4] He resigned as head of the ATF after being under fire from Republicans and critics over the scandal surrounding the "Gunwalking" program of Operation Fast and Furious.[5] He was replaced by B. Todd Jones, a former Marine who has twice served as the U.S. attorney in Minnesota.
Kenneth E. Melson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Which is why it's a mystery that people from the Bush administration were not included in the "hearings" :cough, cough: witchhunt:..

Nothing you just posted addresses why we would want to compare anything Congress voted on to Fast and Furious. Which is what I asked for. Further your link and quote indicates that what ever was done was done after Obama was President, after Holder WAS MADE ATTORNEY GENERAL.

As to who appointed anyone to a position, it does not matter since Obama or Holder could have removed him and appointed someone else.

Further the argument made by Holder has been no one outside of Arizona knew about Fast and Furious.

 

[The T]

You are lying... it was "wide reciever" and the guns were tracked.

No they weren't and the phony excuse they gave was the perps removed the trackers, which begs the question, how did they know they were there to remove? More likely that the crooked Republicans billed the taxpayer for the trackers and pocketed them, ala KBR.

Stop lying you prick..!

Prick? I'd slam Edith larger than that...but that's me. First thing ya gotta do is get his nose out of Soros' Ass.