Bush's Wide Receiver versus Obama's Fast and Furious

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    The Bush Administration wide receiver--aka gunwalking operation.

    ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Obama administration Fast and Furious: Enacted under the Obama administration in 2009--and 2 years after Wide Receiver was stopped by the Bush administration in 2007.

    ATF gunwalking scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Why would the Obama administration under Eric Holder enact Fast and Furious--when they knew that wide receiver aka ATF gunwalking was halted in 2007- (under the Bush administration)-because it was a failed program? There had to be another reason for this--and the only rational conclusion anyone could come to is that by delivering semi-automatic weapons to violent Mexican drug cartels-- Obama/Holder could point a finger at all the deaths and violence in Mexico-for reason to ban these weapons for sale in the United States. Henceforth--the cover up-an 18 month congressional investigation- -and Obama issuing executive privilege on documents that have been subpoenaed by the congressional investigation into Fast and Furious--which lead to congress holding Eric Holder (Attorney General of the United States and head of the ATF) in contempt.

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    F&F was absolutely an attack on Second amendment Rights first and foremost. Prior to the White House connection pro anti gun Politicians were raging about the guns having originated in the U.S., and the Media was eating it up... A dead Border Patrol Agent later(and countless others), and then a connection to the WH was made, and overnight the Anti gun lobby, and the Media machine shut down, and now we have Holder trying vainly to defend their actions. It's one thing to have an anti gun agenda, it's quite another when Americans get killed over it. It's also Despicable for an Administration to rant about the guns "coming from America", and how it must be stopped... When it was your Administration providing them. The buck stops with Obama, and ALL the people involved need to be held accountable both for the death of Brian Terry, and putting weapons in the hands of criminals.
     
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    Agreed--One President doesn't follow the mistakes of their predecessor--without a hidden agenda.
     
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    Notice how CON$ weave their web of deceit!!! Bush's Fast and Furious was called "Project Gunrunner" not "wide receiver" and rather than being ended in 2007 it was funded in 2008 through fiscal 2010.

    Here is the part of the bill regarding the funding of "Project Gunrunner."

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    (1) INGENERAL.—The Attorney General shall,
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    of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Fire-
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    (A) assign additional agents of the Bureau
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    Again you lie, Holder discredited you.

    you believe a race baiter and notorious liar like Sharpton:
    Al Sharpton claims Fast and Furious started under Bush, suggests racism - Spokane Conservative | Examiner.com

    But Holder said:
    Holder retracts claim Bush team knew about Fast and Furious | WashingtonExaminer.com

    quit peddling that crap, that dog wont hunt on this board, you just make yourself look dumber with each post.
     
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    Yep, it's like TMN took over Ed.
     
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    I'm citing the House bill, you are citing a discredited CON$ervoFascist rag. You do know that Issa voted YEA on the 2008 bill!!!

    HR 6028 - Assistance for Mexico and Central America for Anti-Drug Programs (Merida Program) - Key Vote
    National Key Votes
    Darrell Issa voted Yea (Passage) on this legislation.
     
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    Yes, you cited the house bill which is completely worthless without citing what that project did as far as transferring guns into the hands of the cartels. How about you post something that puts the cited project on par with Fast and Furious as the OP did when citing Wide Receiver.
     
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    Well ya dummy CAN YOU READ?--Bush's started out as the ATF gunner runner project to stop guns from crossing the border--then it went to wide receiver to see if they could catch the ones buying them on the other side of the border. Read --the Wikipedia title.

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    If it passed in 2008 then a majority of Democrats must have voted for it dumb ass. Also Holder already admitted on national News Bush had no knowledge of Fast and Furious. But you keep peddling your lies.
     

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