Bush to Veto Bill Expanding Children's Health Coverage

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    WASHINGTON, July 14 — The White House said on Saturday that President Bush would veto a bipartisan plan to expand the Children’s Health Insurance Program, drafted over the last six months by senior members of the Senate Finance Committee.

    The vow puts Mr. Bush at odds with the Democratic majority in Congress, with a substantial number of Republican lawmakers and with many governors of both parties, who want to expand the popular program to cover some of the nation’s eight million uninsured children.


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    The article states that the program would be funded by a tax increase on tobacco products, and two reasons why Bush may veto the bill:

    1) It may cause some non-poor children to drop private coverage in favor of the government plan;

    2) the bill does not contain some tax changes regarding health insurance that would make it more affordable.

    This seems like one of those situations where Bush should compromise. His party no longer controls the congress, so it seems a little ballsy to veto a bill with some measure of bi-partisan support for these reasons.

    Besides, it would be a much needed win for him to be able to sign a bill expanding children's health coverage.
     
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    he was willing to fund it, but not as much as the democrats want it.

    We need to cut government entitlements, not expand them.

    Children are not owed health care, its the parents responsibility not the governments to take care of that.
     
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    Nobody is owed health care unless we decide otherwise.

    Children differ from adults in that there health care options are completely out of their hands. They cannot buy insurance, and if there parents are unable or unwilling to provide insurance for them, they risk missing the routine care that can identify and treat health issues early on. Not all entitlements are bad, and not all entitlements are created equally. I think I am okay with health insurance for children.
     
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    Yes, and if parents fall onto hard times, then it is their own fault and the child suffers for it. If they have jobs that do not pay health care or pay them enough for them to afford private health insurance, then it is also their faults. If they fall through the cracks, our reply is to be: Too bad. Good-bye.

    Does the paragraph above conform to your position?
     
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    I doubt that I could have said it better, myself.
     
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    Why, thank you very much.
     
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    This was a completely bipartisan bill, with many republicans supporting it. Even Republican governors want to expand CHIP.

    If Bush can find ten billion dollars a month to spend in Iraq, he can damn well find money for american children who don't have health insurance.

    You wouldn't happen to be one of the last remaining 28 percenter dead-enders, who still defend Bush, would you? :D
     
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    Is it the Bill itself the President objects to? Or is there some unmentioned pork attached to it?
     
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    You're not just another shirll voicebox full of unsubstantiated allegations and or presenting opinions as fact, are you?

    If your "28%" number is accurate, then the two-thirds required to override a Presidential veto is in the bag, isn't it?

    So what's the problem?
     
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    The only information that I have about this comes from the article. It didn't mention pork, but did mention the two reasons in the original post as the basis for his opposition to the bill.

    I feel that Bush must acknowledge that with a democratic legislature, the legislation won't look exactly the way he might desire, but if he is in favor of expanding CHIPs (which he says he is), his concerns are not worth the veto. It seems like a reasonably important bill. He should sign it, declare that this is representative of his desire for bipartisanship, and grab part of the victory for himself. It is an important issue, and everyone can claim a win. As a bonus for the average citizen, our government will have actually accomplished something for once.
     

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