Bush is losing the Bushies

[red states rule]

why keep asking the same question if you already think you know the answer?

Sorry if I am mixing facts into the debate

 

[maineman]

"they do not have the guts to do it - and they know they will be voted out in Nov 08"

that is what is called an OPINION. there are no FACTS there.

 

[red states rule]

"they do not have the guts to do it - and they know they will be voted out in Nov 08"

that is what is called an OPINION. there are no FACTS there.

Opinion based on the current polls, the inaction of the Dems, and common sense

 

[maineman]

Opinion based on the current polls, the inaction of the Dems, and common sense

not facts....

you said you were sorry you were mixing facts into the debate, but you were only expressing your opinion.... and your opinion is not fact.

 

[red states rule]

not facts....

you said you were sorry you were mixing facts into the debate, but you were only expressing your opinion.... and your opinion is not fact.

So the 37.5% rating for Dems is not fact?

 

[maineman]

So the 37.5% rating for Dems is not fact?

of course it is not... it is not a rating for democrats, but a rating of congress..which is made up of nearly equal amounts of both parties.


but your statement that I took issue to and that you then said you were sorry for mixing in facts about...was not a factual statement. do try and keep up with the conversation

 

[red states rule]

of course it is not... it is not a rating for democrats, but a rating of congress..which is made up of nearly equal amounts of both parties.


but your statement that I took issue to and that you then said you were sorry for mixing in facts about...was not a factual statement. do try and keep up with the conversation

Nice spin

The Dems are running both Houses and the voters are not impressed with them

 

[maineman]

Nice spin

The Dems are running both Houses and the voters are not impressed with them

voters loved the funding bill


it had the withdrawl deadlines.....

sucks to be a bushie these days, eh?

 

[maineman]

and it isn't spin...the poll asked how people viewed congress...not how they viewed the democrats leading congress.

 

[red states rule]

voters loved the funding bill


it had the withdrawl deadlines.....

sucks to be a bushie these days, eh?

The surrendner bill is going nowhere

and neither are the Dems

http://www.usmessageboard.com/showthread.php?t=48575

 

[maineman]

the funding bill was vetoed...the people still support the democrat's funding bill.

 

[red states rule]

the funding bill was vetoed...the people still support the democrat's funding bill.

The voters support a funding bill - not the Dems surrender bill

 

[maineman]

The voters support a funding bill - not the Dems surrender bill

FACT: the voters supported the funding bill passed by congress and vetoed by the president. THAT bill funded the troops and set non-binding deadlines for troop withdrawal. AND THE VOTERS SUPPORTED THAT BILL AND DID NOT APPROVE OF THE PRESIDENT'S VETO.

 

[red states rule]

FACT: the voters supported the funding bill passed by congress and vetoed by the president. THAT bill funded the troops and set non-binding deadlines for troop withdrawal. AND THE VOTERS SUPPORTED THAT BILL AND DID NOT APPROVE OF THE PRESIDENT'S VETO.

Then one would think Dems would be doing better in the polls

They are not

 

[CSM]

the funding bill was vetoed...the people still support the democrat's funding bill.

Not this "people"....It was obvious to me that the Dems presented this bill as a political ploy. They knew damn well Bush would veto it because of the pork it contained and I do believe the Dems wanted it that way. Now they can say "Well, Bush doesn't support the troops!"....the billl could have contained provisions for making Ted Kennedy "Queen of the Universe" and the Dems still would have presented it knowing Bush would veto....their intent (imo) was to create this exact scenario at the expense of funding the troops.

 

[red states rule]

Not this "people"....It was obvious to me that the Dems presented this bill as a political ploy. They knew damn well Bush would veto it because of the pork it contained and I do believe the Dems wanted it that way. Now they can say "Well, Bush doesn't support the troops!"....the billl could have contained provisions for making Ted Kennedy "Queen of the Universe" and the Dems still would have presented it knowing Bush would veto....their intent (imo) was to create this exact scenario at the expense of funding the troops.

and they have wasted four months while the troops are in harms way

 

[maineman]

Then one would think Dems would be doing better in the polls

They are not

no....one would think that on this issue, the people support the democrats..... and in general, are dissatisfied with the inability of congress to get stuff done.

 

[maineman]

and they have wasted four months while the troops are in harms way

and fully funded during that time.

 

[red states rule]

and fully funded during that time.

Not so

The Defense Dept is trying to scrape up money for operations as we speak

 

[CSM]

and fully funded during that time.

Exactly. Which is why I think the whole thing is a political ploy and nothing more.