Bush is losing the Bushies

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    WASHINGTON, May 9 — Moderate Republicans gave President Bush a blunt warning on his Iraq policy at a private White House meeting this week, telling the president that conditions needed to improve markedly by fall or more Republicans would desert him on the war.

    The White House session demonstrated the grave unease many Republicans are feeling about the war, even as they continue to stand with the president against Democratic efforts to force a withdrawal of forces through a spending measure that has been a flash point for weeks.

    Participants in the Tuesday meeting between Mr. Bush, senior administration officials and 11 members of a moderate bloc of House Republicans said the lawmakers were unusually candid with the president, telling him that public support for the war was crumbling in their swing districts.

    One told Mr. Bush that voters back home favored a withdrawal even if it meant the war was judged a loss. Representative Tom Davis told Mr. Bush that the president’s approval rating was at 5 percent in one section of his northern Virginia district.

    “It was a tough meeting in terms of people being as frank as they possibly could about their districts and their feelings about where the American people are on the war,” said Representative Ray LaHood of Illinois, who took part in the session, which lasted more than an hour in the residential section of the White House. “It was a no-holds-barred meeting.”

    Several of the Republican moderates who visited the White House have already come under political attack at home for their support of Mr. Bush and survived serious Democratic challenges in November.

    Representative Charles W. Dent of Pennsylvania, a co-chairman of the Tuesday Group, an alliance of about 30 moderate Republican lawmakers, helped arrange the meeting. He said lawmakers wanted to convey the frustration and impatience with the war they are hearing from voters. “We had a very frank conversation about the situation in Iraq,” he said. Even so, the Republicans who attended the White House session indicated that they would maintain solidarity with Mr. Bush for now by opposing the latest Democratic proposal for two-stage financing of war, which is scheduled for a vote on Thursday in the House.

    Lawmakers said Mr. Bush made no commitments, but seemed grateful for their support and said a precipitous withdrawal from Iraq could cause the sort of chaos that occurred in Southeast Asia after Americans left Vietnam. The lawmakers said that Mr. Bush and others at the meeting — including Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the political adviser Karl Rove and National Security Adviser Stephen J. Hadley — appeared to appreciate the political reality facing Republicans who will be on the ballot next year.

    “It was very healthy,” said Representative John A. Boehner of Ohio, the House Republican leader, who attended but let the moderates do most of the talking.

    “I walked away from it feeling I got a chance to make my points,” Mr. Davis said.

    The delegation included Representatives Mark Kirk of Illinois, another leader of the moderate coalition; Jim Gerlach of Pennsylvania; James T. Walsh of New York; and Jo Ann Emerson of Missouri. Mr. Kirk, Mr. Walsh and Ms. Emerson declined to discuss the meeting.

    White House officials said Mr. Bush welcomed the observations of the lawmakers. “The president encouraged the members to give unvarnished opinions and views,” said Dana Perino, a White House spokeswoman. She also noted a “persistent push” by the administration in recent days to put new pressure on the Iraqi government via a secure video conference by Mr. Bush with Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki and the surprise visit to Iraq by Vice President Dick Cheney.

    The White House on Wednesday promised a veto of the emerging House bill, which would essentially provide financing for combat operations through midsummer, but require the president to provide a series of reports on the state of the Iraqi military and the progress of the government in achieving political unity. Congress would then vote a second time in late July on releasing the rest of the money sought by the administration, or restricting its use to redeployment and more limited operations in Iraq.

    Tony Snow, the White House spokesman, said White House officials, led by Chief of Staff Joshua B. Bolten, would try to reach a compromise with Congress. Mr. Bolten met Wednesday with Senate leaders.

    While the Pentagon awaits the money, Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates told a Senate committee on Wednesday that the military continued to shift funds, terminate contracts and slow spending so troops in Iraq and Afghanistan did not run out of money. The cost-cutting measures could sustain the troops until July, he said, “if we pulled out all the stops.”
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    It's getting bad when even the Saudis won't return Dubbyuh's phone calls. Prince Bandar, these days, never seems to be available for phone calls.
     
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    Yeah but cons don't see this stuff.

    They still maintain that if everybody else in this world has written Bush off as not even a "useful" idiot anymore they're wrong and he's still right. It's simply because he's a Republican you see. It has nothing to do with any real concern they have for our country.

    Their "patriotism" is bogus. They are loyal to their squeaky little excuse for a president. They may as well be cheering for their hometown, high school football team. There's really no difference in the minds of these loosers!
     
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    You think being in the right becomes "less" right because the cause loses its popularity with the fair-weather crowd?

    And this is one conservative who would like to know just what you consider patritotic about sowing the seeds of hate and discontent parrotting the "We Hate Bush", mindless mantra?
     
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    What exactly is right about supporting a war commenced on lies to the American people which is making us less safe, spilling our brave troops blood, putting us and our children in massive debt and losing us Allies all over the world?
     
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    That's what I'm talking about!

    This is not a frigging baseball game!

    You're on the WRONG side Gunny. You're not much different than the radical fundamentalists that attacked us on 9-11. They believed they were on the "right" side too but they weren't.

    Just because you think you've got firm convictions doesn't necessarily mean your convictions are worth a shit.

    I hate Bush because I love America and all he does is destroy it a little bit every day.

    If you were a true patriot you wouldn't be so afraid to admit that.
     
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    Bush is committing genocide against traditional white America. I must say that I don't care for him or his neocon prompters.
     
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    Here here , Bush discusts me because he is doing great harm to my beloved country.

    History will tear him a new one.
     
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    Unsupported, let-wingnut rhetoric.
     
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    You hate Bush because it's what your party handbook tells you to do. Pretty poor substantiation for for hate.

    Hating as the result of being brainwashed with unsubstantiated lies into a good little parrot is NOT my idea of patriotism. A fairly warped notion you have there.
     

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