Bush didn't just lie........

[Luddly Neddite]

The Left cant make up its mind. Bush is either the bumbling fool who can't put two sentences together or he is the evil genius who hoodwinked a majority of Congress to go along with him.

Bush jr was hoodwinked just like the Dems. He was what you would call a useful idiot. He eventually figured out that he had been lied to which is why he refused to pardon Scooter Libby.

Was about to point out the same thing. W is not intelligent or accomplished. Everything he has done was bought for him by his daddy.

What W has is a huge ego. He's exactly what the powers behind the throne needed. Cheney was president.

His daddy bought him the governorship of Texas? Wow. Thanks dad.

Actually, the family fortune was made by grandpa who, from what I've read, was not the corrupt traitors that his son and grand kids are.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Ramadi falls, insurance premiums are through the roof, turns out Hilderbeast had another separate email account, but let's start a thread about Boooosh

We'll be living with the effects of the corruption and dishonesty of the Bush dynasty for years to come. Instead of desperately trying to deflect from that fact, why don't you go start a thread about whatever you want to discuss?

 

[hortysir]

Link me the news storys of the day RW that said this?
From the same link:
And each and every time the message was the same: If we didn't wage war, Iraq was going to attack the United States homeland with its enormous arsenal of ghastly weapons

"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud"

Translation: you can't find the links from CBS,NBC,ABC,NPR,BBC,MSNBC that said this in 2002~2003

From the same link:
And each and every time the message was the same: If we didn't wage war, Iraq was going to attack the United States homeland with its enormous arsenal of ghastly weapons

8/26/02 "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends…and against us." —Cheney

We knew they had them because, as you love to point out, we sold them to him

 

[rightwinger]

9/19/02 Rumsfeld tells Congress that Saddam "has amassed large, clandestine stockpiles of chemical weapons, including VX, sarin, and mustard gas."

Which in fact he had.
You just cant win for losing, can you Nutjobber?

Sure he did....Bush just didn't want to tell anyone he had found them

 

[Luddly Neddite]

Sorry, but the progaganda boat sailed in vietnam. 50,000 american soldiers dead under lbj's adventure in the jungle.

It wasn't LBJ's but why can't we learn from Vietnam? Why can't we learn from Iraq?

Instead, we have politicians wanting to do it again.

 

[rightwinger]

Link me the news storys of the day RW that said this?
From the same link:
And each and every time the message was the same: If we didn't wage war, Iraq was going to attack the United States homeland with its enormous arsenal of ghastly weapons

"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud"

Translation: you can't find the links from CBS,NBC,ABC,NPR,BBC,MSNBC that said this in 2002~2003

From the same link:
And each and every time the message was the same: If we didn't wage war, Iraq was going to attack the United States homeland with its enormous arsenal of ghastly weapons

8/26/02 "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends…and against us." —Cheney

We knew they had them because, as you love to point out, we sold them to him

You are welcome to point out where I ever said that

Bush/Cheney were fear mongering to a post 9-11 America still in shock from the attacks
They were willing to say anything to threaten our safety

 

[rightwinger]

Ramadi falls, insurance premiums are through the roof, turns out Hilderbeast had another separate email account, but let's start a thread about Boooosh

We'll be living with the effects of the corruption and dishonesty of the Bush dynasty for years to come. Instead of desperately trying to deflect from that fact, why don't you go start a thread about whatever you want to discuss?

The key is that Republicans today have not learned from the eroors and deception of Bush. They are offering the exact same policies and are anxious to get us back into Iraq and Iran

 

[Stephanie]

I guess it's time to take the heat off Obama and Hillary.

so in comes BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
bush bush bush bush bush

RW, is such a loyal tool for the DNC

 

[rightwinger]

Well since you believe Bush lied then every intelligence agency in the world was lying right along with him.

Funny how that works. Bush's intelligence and the intelliegence of all those other agencies in all those other countries said the same thing but somehow Bush lied.

Oh wait. I forgot. Its Rightwinger. Never mind.

And Clinton didnt lie. Even though Clinton said exactly what Bush was saying. And plenty of other Democrats too.
It's amazing. The same things are truth by Clinton but a lie by Bush. Only liberals....

Clinton had eight years to invade Iraq....He didn't think it was necessary

He was right

 

[rightwinger]

9/28/02 Bush's address to nation: "The Iraqi regime possesses biological and chemical weapons, is rebuilding the facilities to make more, and, according to the British government, could launch a biological or chemical attack in as little as 45 minutes after the order is given."

 

[Ringel05]

Damn rightwinger, you're kidding me, right??!! It's a fucking Op-Ed piece and the fact he wrote it and you posted it at this time (reference the "successes" we've had recently in the ME) is so painfully obvious it's borderline pathetic. I might have expected this conspiracy bull shit from Dot Com or Luddy but not you.
The polarization continues apace......

 

[deltex1]

Fear mongering was much more effective

George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.

What the Bush administration launched in 2002 and 2003 may have been the most comprehensive, sophisticated, and misleading campaign of government propaganda in American history. Spend too much time in the weeds, and you risk missing the hysterical tenor of the whole campaign.

In the summer of 2002, the administration established something called the White House Iraq Group, through which Karl Rove and other communication strategists like Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin coordinated with policy officials to sell the public on the threat from Iraq in order to justify war. "The script had been finalized with great care over the summer," White House press secretary Scott McClellan later wrote, for a "campaign to convince Americans that war with Iraq was inevitable and necessary."
In that campaign, intelligence wasn't something to be understood and assessed by the administration in making their decisions, it was a propaganda tool to lead the public to the conclusion that the administration wanted. Again and again we saw a similar pattern: An allegation would bubble up from somewhere, some in the intelligence community would say that it could be true but others would say it was either speculation or outright baloney, but before you knew it the president or someone else was presenting it to the public as settled fact.





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If Bush is stupid and he lied to Hillary and Hillary believed him....what does that make Hillary?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Sorry, but the progaganda boat sailed in vietnam. 50,000 american soldiers dead under lbj's adventure in the jungle.

It wasn't LBJ's but why can't we learn from Vietnam? Why can't we learn from Iraq?

Instead, we have politicians wanting to do it again.

yup, Obama should of learned from nam, never cut and Run, We are still in Germany, we are still in Japan, we are still in South Korea today 2015

 

[eots]

Well since you believe Bush lied then every intelligence agency in the world was lying right along with him.

Funny how that works. Bush's intelligence and the intelliegence of all those other agencies in all those other countries said the same thing but somehow Bush lied.

Oh wait. I forgot. Its Rightwinger. Never mind.

Memo confirms Bush and Blair knew claims Iraq had WMDs were lies
By Paul Bond
26 June 2009
A confidential memo obtained by the Observer, detailing a meeting between President George W. Bush and Prime Minister Tony Blair, confirms their determination to press ahead with the invasion of Iraq in 2003 without any evidence of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) and without United Nations approval.

The five-page memo, written by Blair’s foreign policy adviser Sir David Manning, is dated January 31, 2003, some two months before the invasion began. It records the thinking of Bush and Blair as it became increasingly obvious that United Nations weapons inspectors would not find the advanced weaponry, including a nuclear capability, that both leaders were using to justify military action.
Memo confirms Bush and Blair knew claims Iraq had WMDs were lies - World Socialist Web Site

 

[deltex1]

Fear mongering was much more effective

George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.

What the Bush administration launched in 2002 and 2003 may have been the most comprehensive, sophisticated, and misleading campaign of government propaganda in American history. Spend too much time in the weeds, and you risk missing the hysterical tenor of the whole campaign.

In the summer of 2002, the administration established something called the White House Iraq Group, through which Karl Rove and other communication strategists like Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin coordinated with policy officials to sell the public on the threat from Iraq in order to justify war. "The script had been finalized with great care over the summer," White House press secretary Scott McClellan later wrote, for a "campaign to convince Americans that war with Iraq was inevitable and necessary."
In that campaign, intelligence wasn't something to be understood and assessed by the administration in making their decisions, it was a propaganda tool to lead the public to the conclusion that the administration wanted. Again and again we saw a similar pattern: An allegation would bubble up from somewhere, some in the intelligence community would say that it could be true but others would say it was either speculation or outright baloney, but before you knew it the president or someone else was presenting it to the public as settled fact.





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Do you recall what happened on 911? Had Obama been president he would have appointed a committee to study Muslim anger. Gfy

 

[eots]

Fear mongering was much more effective

George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.

What the Bush administration launched in 2002 and 2003 may have been the most comprehensive, sophisticated, and misleading campaign of government propaganda in American history. Spend too much time in the weeds, and you risk missing the hysterical tenor of the whole campaign.

In the summer of 2002, the administration established something called the White House Iraq Group, through which Karl Rove and other communication strategists like Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin coordinated with policy officials to sell the public on the threat from Iraq in order to justify war. "The script had been finalized with great care over the summer," White House press secretary Scott McClellan later wrote, for a "campaign to convince Americans that war with Iraq was inevitable and necessary."
In that campaign, intelligence wasn't something to be understood and assessed by the administration in making their decisions, it was a propaganda tool to lead the public to the conclusion that the administration wanted. Again and again we saw a similar pattern: An allegation would bubble up from somewhere, some in the intelligence community would say that it could be true but others would say it was either speculation or outright baloney, but before you knew it the president or someone else was presenting it to the public as settled fact.





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If Bush is stupid and he lied to Hillary and Hillary believed him....what does that make Hillary?

Same shit coin different side..

 

[Wildman]

8/26/02 "There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction. There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends…and against us." —Cheney

Cheney: "i believed this because the most honorable Bubba Cliton told me so".

 

[rightwinger]

Damn rightwinger, you're kidding me, right??!! It's a fucking Op-Ed piece and the fact he wrote it and you posted it at this time (reference the "successes" we've had recently in the ME) is so painfully obvious it's borderline pathetic. I might have expected this conspiracy bull shit from Dot Com or Luddy but not you.
The polarization continues apace......

It is a very well written op-ed piece and he is right

 

[rightwinger]

Fear mongering was much more effective

George W. Bush didn t just lie about the Iraq War. What he did was much worse.

What the Bush administration launched in 2002 and 2003 may have been the most comprehensive, sophisticated, and misleading campaign of government propaganda in American history. Spend too much time in the weeds, and you risk missing the hysterical tenor of the whole campaign.

In the summer of 2002, the administration established something called the White House Iraq Group, through which Karl Rove and other communication strategists like Karen Hughes and Mary Matalin coordinated with policy officials to sell the public on the threat from Iraq in order to justify war. "The script had been finalized with great care over the summer," White House press secretary Scott McClellan later wrote, for a "campaign to convince Americans that war with Iraq was inevitable and necessary."
In that campaign, intelligence wasn't something to be understood and assessed by the administration in making their decisions, it was a propaganda tool to lead the public to the conclusion that the administration wanted. Again and again we saw a similar pattern: An allegation would bubble up from somewhere, some in the intelligence community would say that it could be true but others would say it was either speculation or outright baloney, but before you knew it the president or someone else was presenting it to the public as settled fact.





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Do you recall what happened on 911? Had Obama been president he would have appointed a committee to study Muslim anger. Gfy

After 9-11, Bush received unprecidented support both at home and around the world. It is doubtful that Republicans would have provided Obama the same courtesy

 

[rightwinger]

Sorry, but the progaganda boat sailed in vietnam. 50,000 american soldiers dead under lbj's adventure in the jungle.

It wasn't LBJ's but why can't we learn from Vietnam? Why can't we learn from Iraq?

Instead, we have politicians wanting to do it again.

yup, Obama should of learned from nam, never cut and Run, We are still in Germany, we are still in Japan, we are still in South Korea today 2015

Hard to believe we still have idiots who advocate remaining in Vietnam longer than we did

Wasn't 60,000 dead enough?