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[Vanquish]

What's amazing to me is how suddenly, if a worker happens to work for the government, they get vilified and treated worse than a private employee...when they're hard-working individuals trying to put food on their family's plate just like anyone else. The hatred of wasteful spending has become hatred of government has become hatred of government workers who are simply citizens.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'm not trying to recall Walker. I live in California.

Ah, one of Brown's goons.

So are you a prison guard making $500,000 a year, or do you work for CalTrans? (Great job on that 5-22 interchange, only 22 years to complete!) Or are you over 40 and therefore retired with full pay?

The recall of Walker hasn't happened yet.

But the recall of the Senate did, and it shows that the union goons don't have the power they thought they did - not even with California goons joining them.

That the Democrats can pick up two seats in republican held districts shows that, in a statewide election, their chances are pretty good of recalling Walker.

Quite the opposite. Union goons from around the nation descended and couldn't even oust 3 Republicans - with two dims slated to be recalled next week.

There is literally zero chance of a successful recall of Walker.

I'm registered independent. So I'm not losing anything. It's not actually certain that the democrats are going to lose their seats either.

The polling shows them being ousted. Maybe some Franken voters will bring a few trunkloads of "lost ballots," but barring that, they are toast.

 

[Uncensored2008]

What's amazing to me is how suddenly, if a worker happens to work for the government, they get vilified and treated worse than a private employee...

Poor aristocrats, how abused they are. Only earning 130% of the pay their private sector counterparts do. Only getting 500% to 800% of the retirement benefits private workers do. Only retiring after 20 years, when the lucky private sector gets to retire at 67 years old..

Yep, our aristocracy sure has it rough, the private sector just isn't suffering enough to ensure that luxury awaits each government worker..

 

[Ali777]

I'm not trying to recall Walker. I live in California.

Ah, one of Brown's goons.

So are you a prison guard making $500,000 a year, or do you work for CalTrans? (Great job on that 5-22 interchange, only 22 years to complete!) Or are you over 40 and therefore retired with full pay?

The recall of Walker hasn't happened yet.

But the recall of the Senate did, and it shows that the union goons don't have the power they thought they did - not even with California goons joining them.

That the Democrats can pick up two seats in republican held districts shows that, in a statewide election, their chances are pretty good of recalling Walker.

Quite the opposite. Union goons from around the nation descended and couldn't even oust 3 Republicans - with two dims slated to be recalled next week.

There is literally zero chance of a successful recall of Walker.

I'm registered independent. So I'm not losing anything. It's not actually certain that the democrats are going to lose their seats either.

The polling shows them being ousted. Maybe some Franken voters will bring a few trunkloads of "lost ballots," but barring that, they are toast.

It was a choice between Brown and Meg Whitman. Didn't care for Whitman.
I notice you haven't mentioned the Tea Party folks and outside funding for those that
supported the Walker goons. The only ones that have pulled the "lost ballots" trick in Wisconsin were republicans. What polling are you talking about? I haven't seen it.

 

[Ali777]

Ya know, there's actually a thread on this topic.http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/179811-wisconsin-gop-barely-holds-on-to-senate-majority.html

 

[Vanquish]

What's amazing to me is how suddenly, if a worker happens to work for the government, they get vilified and treated worse than a private employee...

Poor aristocrats, how abused they are. Only earning 130% of the pay their private sector counterparts do. Only getting 500% to 800% of the retirement benefits private workers do. Only retiring after 20 years, when the lucky private sector gets to retire at 67 years old..

Yep, our aristocracy sure has it rough, the private sector just isn't suffering enough to ensure that luxury awaits each government worker..

Without even going into your figures, wtf?

If the reverse were true, and private-sector workers were earning 130% of what government employees do, you'd be calling it "the success of capitalism! you can't complain that people make too much money!!"

Aren't there controls on government spending? Oh yeah! That's called voting someone new in! You're vilifying the workers who don't even set their own pay!?! How is that a fair argument?

If we're going to talk about % comparisons of who makes what...how about the VAST difference in the pay of CEOs versus the rest of the workers in companies? OHHHHHH I bet you don't want to go into that discussion. You'll dismiss it and say...oh that's just the "free market"!!

Admit it...you have this stereotype of a lazy government worker, probably a minority in your mind, that's just feeding off the system and doesn't deserve their pay. That's the concept that the conservative movement has spoonfed you...and you're licking it up with gusto.

Workers...private or municipal deserve the same treatment and protections. But the conservative hatred of government has turned on the workers themselves. You don't like how much they make? Go talk to your representative or your senator. The one you voted for. It's really your own fault in the end.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

AlI777 just cant let go. Kinda like the Dem's in the recall fiasco.

This message is hidden because Ali777 is on your ignore list. <---- Thats half of the posts in the last few pages....sad

 

[bodecea]

I'm not trying to recall Walker. I live in California.

Ah, one of Brown's goons.

So are you a prison guard making $500,000 a year, or do you work for CalTrans? (Great job on that 5-22 interchange, only 22 years to complete!) Or are you over 40 and therefore retired with full pay?

The recall of Walker hasn't happened yet.

But the recall of the Senate did, and it shows that the union goons don't have the power they thought they did - not even with California goons joining them.

That the Democrats can pick up two seats in republican held districts shows that, in a statewide election, their chances are pretty good of recalling Walker.

Quite the opposite. Union goons from around the nation descended and couldn't even oust 3 Republicans - with two dims slated to be recalled next week.

There is literally zero chance of a successful recall of Walker.

I'm registered independent. So I'm not losing anything. It's not actually certain that the democrats are going to lose their seats either.

The polling shows them being ousted. Maybe some Franken voters will bring a few trunkloads of "lost ballots," but barring that, they are toast.

Wow! You simply are incapable of telling the truth, are you?

Must be a sickness.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Now that this recall nonsense is about over, it's time to go after all those scumbag teachers who commited FRAUD by accepting FRAUDULENT doctors notes from FRAUDULENT doctors, in order to DEFRUAD the School district, State County, and Wisconsins citizens........Same goes for those scumbag doctors who FRAUDULENTLY provided those notes, and te corrpupt scumbag union leaders who encouraged the FRAUD!

Charge all the dirty lil' bastards!

 

[Wicked Jester]

I'm not trying to recall Walker. I live in California.

Ah, one of Brown's goons.

So are you a prison guard making $500,000 a year, or do you work for CalTrans? (Great job on that 5-22 interchange, only 22 years to complete!) Or are you over 40 and therefore retired with full pay?


But the recall of the Senate did, and it shows that the union goons don't have the power they thought they did - not even with California goons joining them.



Quite the opposite. Union goons from around the nation descended and couldn't even oust 3 Republicans - with two dims slated to be recalled next week.

There is literally zero chance of a successful recall of Walker.

I'm registered independent. So I'm not losing anything. It's not actually certain that the democrats are going to lose their seats either.

The polling shows them being ousted. Maybe some Franken voters will bring a few trunkloads of "lost ballots," but barring that, they are toast.

Wow! You simply are incapable of telling the truth, are you?

Must be a sickness.

Pffffffffft.......Yeah Bruce, you're one to talk.

Your sexual gender preference is the sickness, Clyde.

 

[bodecea]

Ah, one of Brown's goons.

So are you a prison guard making $500,000 a year, or do you work for CalTrans? (Great job on that 5-22 interchange, only 22 years to complete!) Or are you over 40 and therefore retired with full pay?


But the recall of the Senate did, and it shows that the union goons don't have the power they thought they did - not even with California goons joining them.



Quite the opposite. Union goons from around the nation descended and couldn't even oust 3 Republicans - with two dims slated to be recalled next week.

There is literally zero chance of a successful recall of Walker.



The polling shows them being ousted. Maybe some Franken voters will bring a few trunkloads of "lost ballots," but barring that, they are toast.

Wow! You simply are incapable of telling the truth, are you?

Must be a sickness.

Pffffffffft.......Yeah Bruce, you're one to talk.

Your sexual gender preference is the sickness, Clyde.

Again, you fixate on sexual preferences. Of course, maybe that's why you got in trouble with the law....don't think your Probation Officer would be so keen on your...er....continued obsessions.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Wow! You simply are incapable of telling the truth, are you?

Must be a sickness.

Pffffffffft.......Yeah Bruce, you're one to talk.

Your sexual gender preference is the sickness, Clyde.

Again, you fixate on sexual preferences. Of course, maybe that's why you got in trouble with the law....don't think your Probation Officer would be so keen on your...er....continued obsessions.

So tell us all, Butch, how did I get in trouble with the law....You're making the claim, you'd damn sure better to be able to back up such a scathing claim with facts and evidence.

Surely you have them, eh Stanley?......Or are you just lying yet again?

Keep making that claim, Butch.........

 

[bodecea]

Pffffffffft.......Yeah Bruce, you're one to talk.

Your sexual gender preference is the sickness, Clyde.

Again, you fixate on sexual preferences. Of course, maybe that's why you got in trouble with the law....don't think your Probation Officer would be so keen on your...er....continued obsessions.

So tell us all, Butch, how did I get in trouble with the law....You're making the claim, you'd damn sure better to be able to back up such a scathing claim with facts and evidence.

Surely you have them, eh Stanley?......Or are you just lying yet again?

Keep making that claim, Butch.........

Did you say something intelligent, Parolee? Not yet, it would appear.

 

[Wicked Jester]

Again, you fixate on sexual preferences. Of course, maybe that's why you got in trouble with the law....don't think your Probation Officer would be so keen on your...er....continued obsessions.

So tell us all, Butch, how did I get in trouble with the law....You're making the claim, you'd damn sure better to be able to back up such a scathing claim with facts and evidence.

Surely you have them, eh Stanley?......Or are you just lying yet again?

Keep making that claim, Butch.........

Did you say something intelligent, Parolee? Not yet, it would appear.

Are you going to identify that skank in your avatar, who ACTUALLY served, Homer?

'cause that is one ugly broad, ala Rachell Mancow, Cletus.

 

[bodecea]

So tell us all, Butch, how did I get in trouble with the law....You're making the claim, you'd damn sure better to be able to back up such a scathing claim with facts and evidence.

Surely you have them, eh Stanley?......Or are you just lying yet again?

Keep making that claim, Butch.........

Did you say something intelligent, Parolee? Not yet, it would appear.

Are you going to identify that skank in your avatar, who ACTUALLY served, Homer?

'cause that is one ugly broad, ala Rachell Mancow, Cletus.

Ah, you know that recidivism is common in those of you just let out of the slammer. Best not let your Parole Officer see the trend your posts are taking......again.

 

[Uncensored2008]

If the reverse were true, and private-sector workers were earning 130% of what government employees do, you'd be calling it "the success of capitalism! you can't complain that people make too much money!!"

So are you beaming that this is the "success of socialism?" And that people can't loot too much money?

Aren't there controls on government spending?

Controls like "Yo, da goodfellas gots a propositions for ya, you vote us obscene salaries and absurd perqs, we deliver the Union vote and trash your opponents.."

You're vilifying the workers who don't even set their own pay!?!

Innocent lambs, all the little Robert Rizzo's at the public trough only want what's fair..

How is that a fair argument?

The Lords and Ladies of the public aristocracy are suffering, the peasants just aren't sacrificing enough to ensure that they live the opulent lives they deserve by merit of being government.

Over 12,000 of California's retired aristocrats make more than $100,000 from taxpayer funded pensions. Mind you, the average state "worker" retires at less than 55 years of age, 12 years younger than the general public.

Top Ten Most Outrageous Government Pensions - Greg Hengler

If we're going to talk about % comparisons of who makes what...how about the VAST difference in the pay of CEOs versus the rest of the workers in companies?

Last I checked, those weren't coming from taxes. (Save the looters at Goldman Sachs, Chase, GE and GM in the fascist scheme Dear Leader created.)

You're like a little kid caught stealing my tomatoes who argues "You don't have a problem with Mrs. Chang eating as many tomatoes as she wants." That's because Mrs. Chang buys her own tomatoes instead of stealing them out of my garden.

Admit it...you have this stereotype of a lazy government worker, probably a minority in your mind, that's just feeding off the system and doesn't deserve their pay.

And you have the TV version of the diligent and selfless superhero barely scraping by...

Your stereotype is much further from reality than the one you assigned to me.

I ride the train to work. It's very convenient for me to do so. I live 42 miles from work and Southern California traffic is some of the worst in the nation. I pay $279 a month for a pass - unless they raised it again today, which they might have. Most of the people I ride with are government workers. For one thing, they ride free, for another, they need not worry about being stuck at work - they are 9-5 with no exceptions. State and LA County workers live in absolute luxury, they make enough that those 10 weeks of vacation each year are well used. The federal workers don't do quit as well.

Workers...private or municipal deserve the same treatment and protections.

So you support reducing the salaries and benefits of government workers to those enjoyed by the general public?

Go talk to your representative or your senator. The one you voted for. It's really your own fault in the end.

The corrupt unions elected these fucks, who work 100% for the corrupt unions.

We have a government of, for and by the government worker. The rest of us are a peasant class who exist purely to support the government workers - our government masters.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Wow! You simply are incapable of telling the truth, are you?

Must be a sickness.

Wow, you're stupid as a fucking tree stump - must be retardation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/14/business/14retirees.html?pagewanted=all