BREAKING: Federal court bans cops using tasers or causing pain unless thug is "threat to others"

[bucs90]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

Good...

 

[bucs90]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

Good...

Ok.

You're going to serve a warrant for grand larceny. Guy has stolen 50 cars and breaks into homes while families are on vacation.

He sees you coming. Latches himself around a pole in a corner of the building.

You have to arrest him.

However...you are now forbidden from causing him any pain. And cameras are rolling.

How you do it?

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Get ready for the crime rate to explode.

 

[bucs90]

Get ready for the crime rate to explode.

Seriously. That's the standard now set by federal court. Unless they are an "immediate threat"....you cannot cause them any pain in arrest. Absolutely insane.....lawyers are going to sue the nation's cities and counties into bankruptcy!

Every dirt bag is gonna cry "Ouch! That hurts!!" as soon as the cops touch them. AND in the wake of the Freddy Gray shotstorm....EVERY one of those will be taken straight to the ER to get a doctor to evaluate them.

This nation is going to have to have a serious wake up call about the realities of crime and policing.

 

[bucs90]

The case hinges around the taser.

But the courts ruling was that the PAIN was unconstitutional....not the tool.

Which means....anything which causes pain will be illegal during an arrest. Guess how many fake claims of "That hurts!" we will have now?

 

[WildBillKelsoe]

Get ready for the crime rate to explode.

Seriously. That's the standard now set by federal court. Unless they are an "immediate threat"....you cannot cause them any pain in arrest. Absolutely insane.....lawyers are going to sue the nation's cities and counties into bankruptcy!

Every dirt bag is gonna cry "Ouch! That hurts!!" as soon as the cops touch them. AND in the wake of the Freddy Gray shotstorm....EVERY one of those will be taken straight to the ER to get a doctor to evaluate them.

This nation is going to have to have a serious wake up call about the realities of crime and policing.

We need our guns now, more than ever.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

TASER use restricted in 5 states by U.S. 4th Circuit Court of Appeals

A MAJOR court ruling just occurred. Fellow cops and lawyers will know why it's big. Others might.

In short....federal 4th circuit just ruled cops cannot use a taser on anyone resisting arrest UNLESS the resistance is an "immediate threat to others or the officer". If not....the "PAIN" is unconstitutional. Not the tool. The pain (important distinction the court accidentally made).

Came from a mental whacko hugging a pole being detained by court order. He wouldn't let go. Cops gazed him. He later dies (not from the taser) but family sued anyway.

COURT RULED......THE PAIN....not the device...caused a violation of his rights. NOT the taser...just the pain. So....if cops in the future use a pressure point technique to get compliance....guess what? There's now a ruling that causing pain is unconstitutional...UNLESS they are an immediate threat.

So....if you're under arrest.....hug a pole. Cops can't taze you. Can't pressure point you. Can't do anything that causes pain. Period.



If Eric Garner was tazed....he'd probably be alive today.

But NOW......cops are gonna have to fight them. BUT....only in a way that doesn't cause any pain. Because the 4th Circuit Federal Court ruled that if you A) Resist arrest and B) But aren't threatening anyone else.....cops can not cause you any pain. To do so is now illegal.

Holy fucking wow. Mission impossible.

Good...

Ok.

You're going to serve a warrant for grand larceny. Guy has stolen 50 cars and breaks into homes while families are on vacation.

He sees you coming. Latches himself around a pole in a corner of the building.

You have to arrest him.

However...you are now forbidden from causing him any pain. And cameras are rolling.

How you do it?

You wait. You talk. You use your head instead of a weapon.

 

[depotoo]

Does that mean they better shoot for an instant kill to keep pain at bay?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Get ready for the crime rate to explode.

Utter BS.

 

[bucs90]

Get ready for the crime rate to explode.

Seriously. That's the standard now set by federal court. Unless they are an "immediate threat"....you cannot cause them any pain in arrest. Absolutely insane.....lawyers are going to sue the nation's cities and counties into bankruptcy!

Every dirt bag is gonna cry "Ouch! That hurts!!" as soon as the cops touch them. AND in the wake of the Freddy Gray shotstorm....EVERY one of those will be taken straight to the ER to get a doctor to evaluate them.

This nation is going to have to have a serious wake up call about the realities of crime and policing.

We need our guns now, more than ever.

Yep.

I'm stunned by this ruling.

If a thug is threatening the cop or anyone else....causing pain while arresting is ok.

ALL other situations....he cannot be caused to feel pain during the arrest or its now illegal!!!

Imagine....a thug steals your TV and cops chase him. He is running. Cops grab him and tackle him....and he says he feels pain now. That is now technically illegal.

 

[bucs90]

Get ready for the crime rate to explode.

Utter BS.

You never answered my question. You cant can you?

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Does that mean they better shoot for an instant kill to keep pain at bay?

They should be doing that already, if required.

 

[BULLDOG]

Get ready for the crime rate to explode.

Seriously. That's the standard now set by federal court. Unless they are an "immediate threat"....you cannot cause them any pain in arrest. Absolutely insane.....lawyers are going to sue the nation's cities and counties into bankruptcy!

Every dirt bag is gonna cry "Ouch! That hurts!!" as soon as the cops touch them. AND in the wake of the Freddy Gray shotstorm....EVERY one of those will be taken straight to the ER to get a doctor to evaluate them.

This nation is going to have to have a serious wake up call about the realities of crime and policing.

If the cops would have played by the rules to start with instead of abusing their authority, this would have never happened. They unnecessarily pushed people until they had to push back.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

Get ready for the crime rate to explode.

Utter BS.

You never answered my question. You cant can you?

Read the thread, dumbass.

 

[P F Tinmore]

The Taser has always been an instrument of torture.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

The Taser has always been an instrument of torture.

Also not true.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Does that mean they better shoot for an instant kill to keep pain at bay?

One in the dome and the ghetto thug wont feel a thing....

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

The Taser has always been an instrument of torture.

What about repeated blows with a nightstick or six cell Mag Light?

 

[MikeK]

I agree there is an implicit error in the language of this ruling. But it undoubtedly will soon be corrected by adding the word, unnecessary.

This ruling is the direct result of conduct on the part of sadistic goons whose police authority has been a means by which they exercise their perverse enjoyment of administering pain to others by one method or another. For some the TASER has become the functional equivalent of a whip, a ball-gag, nipple-clips, etc.

The misconduct of these degenerates has now resulted in the imposition of an extreme inconvenience on all cops, including those who were not inclined to use excessive and/or unnecessary force.