Iceweasel
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Probably as close to a wiener as she is going to get.LOL The OP thinks she has a winner that will devastate Cruz and it's just a wiener
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Probably as close to a wiener as she is going to get.LOL The OP thinks she has a winner that will devastate Cruz and it's just a wiener
Well, I don't have a partisan flank to cover, so I can just be honest.If he broke the rules, poof, that's it, y'know?
Seems like you're the only one can either comprehend the situation or bothered to read the three short paragraphs explaining the problem Cruz has.
The others just want to divert and deflect.
Golly, what a coverup. Where's the lie?
Ted Cruz did not disclose 2012 Senate campaign loan: NY Times
Speaking to reporters on Wednesday after a campaign event in Dorchester, South Carolina, Cruz called the failure to disclose the loans to the FEC a "technical and inadvertent filing error."
"Those loans have been disclosed over and over and over again on multiple filings. If it was the case that they were not filed exactly as the FEC requires, then we'll amend the filings. But all of the information has been public and transparent for many years," he said.
Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Cruz, said Cruz had taken out the Goldman Sachs loan against his own assets and had paid off the loan in full.
Cruz and his wife, Heidi, who is on leave as a managing director at Goldman Sachs, also received a loan from Citibank for up to $500,000, but it was not clear whether that money was used in the campaign, the newspaper said.
There was no evidence the Cruzes got a break on their bank loans, which were disclosed in personal financial statements filed with the U.S. Senate, according to the newspaper.
(Writing by Eric Beech in Washington; Additional reporting by James Oliphant in Dorchester, S.C.; Editing by Peter Cooney)
Yeah I read it and actually understood it (which apparently you didn't) and he wasn't lying, he did use his own private funds and accounts; the loans were made to him PERSONALLY and were secured by his personal assets; Apparently you don't understand how bank loans work.Based on the linked story doesn't look like he "lied" about anything, he failed to disclose (not the same thing as lying) that some portion of the funds from personal loans he took out against his assets were used to fund his campaign, there's an appearance that his failure to disclose was based on the fact that he didn't want to contradict his anti-Wall Street campaign rhetoric (although there's no proof of that).Breaking: Cruz Lied About Source of Funds for 2012 Senate Race
A lot of smoke here; no fire.
Read the first paragraph. He made a statement that he was using his own private funds and accounts as a loan to his campaign. He did not. He borrowed money from his wife's employer.
You want to see what a lie actually looks like you need look no further than your own thread title; as in you worded it to intentionally deceive (which is something that the New York Times did NOT do), of course expecting honesty from a hyper-partisan robot is like expecting beef from a cabbage.
And if partisan propaganda were heroine you'd have overdosed yourself and 7 generations of your own family.If Delusion was a place, you'd be the mayor.
Feel free to go back to stroking yourself over this "story", after all it appears to be the one thing you have an actual aptitude for.
Based on the linked story doesn't look like he "lied" about anything, he failed to disclose (not the same thing as lying) that some portion of the funds from personal loans he took out against his assets were used to fund his campaign, there's an appearance that his failure to disclose was based on the fact that he didn't want to contradict his anti-Wall Street campaign rhetoric (although there's no proof of that).Breaking: Cruz Lied About Source of Funds for 2012 Senate Race
A lot of smoke here; no fire.
You posted a one sided article and went into full shrill mode. You guys that desperate?But the left yawned when it was disclosed Sanders funneled campaign money to family and friends.
This is a non story
Breaking FEC rules for revealing the source of campaign funds is a non-story? I always knew you were pretty damn stupid but you won't even READ four paragraphs before you spill bile on this board.
Sorry shrillary.Golly, what a coverup. Where's the lie?
Ted Cruz did not disclose 2012 Senate campaign loan: NY Times
Speaking to reporters on Wednesday after a campaign event in Dorchester, South Carolina, Cruz called the failure to disclose the loans to the FEC a "technical and inadvertent filing error."
"Those loans have been disclosed over and over and over again on multiple filings. If it was the case that they were not filed exactly as the FEC requires, then we'll amend the filings. But all of the information has been public and transparent for many years," he said.
Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Cruz, said Cruz had taken out the Goldman Sachs loan against his own assets and had paid off the loan in full.
Cruz and his wife, Heidi, who is on leave as a managing director at Goldman Sachs, also received a loan from Citibank for up to $500,000, but it was not clear whether that money was used in the campaign, the newspaper said.
There was no evidence the Cruzes got a break on their bank loans, which were disclosed in personal financial statements filed with the U.S. Senate, according to the newspaper.
(Writing by Eric Beech in Washington; Additional reporting by James Oliphant in Dorchester, S.C.; Editing by Peter Cooney)
It wasn't even lying by omission, idiot. He stated prior to the investigation that he used his own assets and funds.
Don't listen to me, toad. It's the FEC that is after his ass.
Probably as close to a wiener as she is going to get.LOL The OP thinks she has a winner that will devastate Cruz and it's just a wiener
You can't read.You posted a one sided article and went into full shrill mode. You guys that desperate?But the left yawned when it was disclosed Sanders funneled campaign money to family and friends.
This is a non story
Breaking FEC rules for revealing the source of campaign funds is a non-story? I always knew you were pretty damn stupid but you won't even READ four paragraphs before you spill bile on this board.
How is the article one-sided?
Not a single one of the unibrows here has provided any facts or data countering what the NYT reported. Not one scintilla.
Get off your lazy asses, got to the FEC online and get back with somethning worth reading.
You can't read.You posted a one sided article and went into full shrill mode. You guys that desperate?But the left yawned when it was disclosed Sanders funneled campaign money to family and friends.
This is a non story
Breaking FEC rules for revealing the source of campaign funds is a non-story? I always knew you were pretty damn stupid but you won't even READ four paragraphs before you spill bile on this board.
How is the article one-sided?
Not a single one of the unibrows here has provided any facts or data countering what the NYT reported. Not one scintilla.
Get off your lazy asses, got to the FEC online and get back with somethning worth reading.
He broke FEC rules by not disclosing the source. He lied about the source.
The Tu Quoque Fallacy is the only tool the rubes have in times like these.oooooooooooooooo, breaking news. Obama won LIE of the year the left just yawned
So deflection is all you've got?
Sorry shrillary.Golly, what a coverup. Where's the lie?
Ted Cruz did not disclose 2012 Senate campaign loan: NY Times
Speaking to reporters on Wednesday after a campaign event in Dorchester, South Carolina, Cruz called the failure to disclose the loans to the FEC a "technical and inadvertent filing error."
"Those loans have been disclosed over and over and over again on multiple filings. If it was the case that they were not filed exactly as the FEC requires, then we'll amend the filings. But all of the information has been public and transparent for many years," he said.
Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Cruz, said Cruz had taken out the Goldman Sachs loan against his own assets and had paid off the loan in full.
Cruz and his wife, Heidi, who is on leave as a managing director at Goldman Sachs, also received a loan from Citibank for up to $500,000, but it was not clear whether that money was used in the campaign, the newspaper said.
There was no evidence the Cruzes got a break on their bank loans, which were disclosed in personal financial statements filed with the U.S. Senate, according to the newspaper.
(Writing by Eric Beech in Washington; Additional reporting by James Oliphant in Dorchester, S.C.; Editing by Peter Cooney)
It wasn't even lying by omission, idiot. He stated prior to the investigation that he used his own assets and funds.
Don't listen to me, toad. It's the FEC that is after his ass.
Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Cruz, said Cruz had taken out the Goldman Sachs loan against his own assets and had paid off the loan in full.
*SIGH* Apparently you lie so much you've lost the ability to discern the difference between not saying anything and lying, color me shocked.He broke FEC rules by not disclosing the source. He lied about the source.
No point in trying to explain it to you since anything that doesn't conform with the hyper-partisan narrative you composed for yourself isn't going to penetrate the thick, logic proof shell your masters have constructed around your brain.
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Yes; that IMHO is the possible sin here, if a credible case can be made that the primary driver for the failure to disclose was to keep the Goldman and Citibank names out of the headlines in order to avoid campaign rhetoric contradictions then it calls his integrity into question. Though I seriously doubt that in and of itself is going to make a whole lot of difference in his campaign, it's no secret that Texas Ted is a cold, calculating and extremely ambitious character.Based on the linked story doesn't look like he "lied" about anything, he failed to disclose (not the same thing as lying) that some portion of the funds from personal loans he took out against his assets were used to fund his campaign, there's an appearance that his failure to disclose was based on the fact that he didn't want to contradict his anti-Wall Street campaign rhetoric (although there's no proof of that).Breaking: Cruz Lied About Source of Funds for 2012 Senate Race
A lot of smoke here; no fire.
There should be fire, we will see, cause disclosure of that fact would surely have blunted his-anti-wall street campaign.
First he wasn't even lying by omission now lying by omission is still a lie? Let us know how it works out for you. Sorry you don't have a candidate worth talking about.Sorry shrillary.Golly, what a coverup. Where's the lie?
Ted Cruz did not disclose 2012 Senate campaign loan: NY Times
Speaking to reporters on Wednesday after a campaign event in Dorchester, South Carolina, Cruz called the failure to disclose the loans to the FEC a "technical and inadvertent filing error."
"Those loans have been disclosed over and over and over again on multiple filings. If it was the case that they were not filed exactly as the FEC requires, then we'll amend the filings. But all of the information has been public and transparent for many years," he said.
Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Cruz, said Cruz had taken out the Goldman Sachs loan against his own assets and had paid off the loan in full.
Cruz and his wife, Heidi, who is on leave as a managing director at Goldman Sachs, also received a loan from Citibank for up to $500,000, but it was not clear whether that money was used in the campaign, the newspaper said.
There was no evidence the Cruzes got a break on their bank loans, which were disclosed in personal financial statements filed with the U.S. Senate, according to the newspaper.
(Writing by Eric Beech in Washington; Additional reporting by James Oliphant in Dorchester, S.C.; Editing by Peter Cooney)
It wasn't even lying by omission, idiot. He stated prior to the investigation that he used his own assets and funds.
Don't listen to me, toad. It's the FEC that is after his ass.
Catherine Frazier, a spokeswoman for Cruz, said Cruz had taken out the Goldman Sachs loan against his own assets and had paid off the loan in full.
Sorry, Sparky. Lying by omission is still a lie.
Your post title is a lie, No Pee-Pee.Ted Cruz Didn’t Disclose Loan From Goldman Sachs for His First Senate Campaign
As Ted Cruz tells it, the story of how he financed his upstart campaign for the United States Senate four years ago is an endearing example of loyalty and shared sacrifice between a married couple.
“Sweetheart, I’d like us to liquidate our entire net worth, liquid net worth, and put it into the campaign,” he says he told his wife, Heidi, who readily agreed.
But the couple’s decision to pump more than $1 million into Mr. Cruz’s successful Tea Party-darling Senate bid in Texas was made easier by a large loan from Goldman Sachs, where Mrs. Cruz works.
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......in the first half of 2012, Ted and Heidi Cruz obtained the low-interest loan from Goldman Sachs, as well as another one from Citibank. The loans totaled as much as $750,000 and eventually increased to a maximum of $1 million before being paid down later that year. There is no explanation of their purpose.
Neither loan appears in reports the Ted Cruz for Senate Committee filed with the Federal Election Commission, in which candidates are required to disclose the source of money they borrow to finance their campaigns.
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/14/us/politics/ted-cruz-wall-street-loan-senate-bid-2012.html?_r=0