Boston black cops can't pass written test ... so they get "interviews" instead.

[Jackson]

Jackson, you're a shithead. Go take your welfare check and buy some IQ points. Afros complaining about discrimination is no evidence of discrimination at all. I'm certain all job opportunities are openly posted, and written tests are highly objective. Any bias is in favor of those Afro shits, that's just how American society is.

Thank you, Amynation. Her's the information:

For months, the group has asked the department to change requirements concerning tests for promotions, or at least inform minority officers about open positions so they could apply and prepare for test. The group has said that supervisory positions continue to go to a select few “insiders” without minority officers having the chance to fairly compete for the jobs.

Minority officers eye more Boston police diversity. | Global Ministries Boston

This demonstrates that the problem could be correctly handled by just affording the minorities the same courtesy they do the whites, or "select" group. Instead, they change the entire format and waste $2million at the same time.

Was telling them about the test in a timely manner too much to ask?

Thanks for the link, Amy. Well done.

Then why did the minoritites just ask that they be informed, Mr. Credibility?

 

[tjvh]

Boston anything and everything is still about the good old boy system.
I oppose affirmative action but the facts up there tell the story.
Turf protection. "Hire Pete's boy, he is a good kid." is what is going on.
And the minorities suffer.
Just the facts.

You believe it's the minorities who suffer... Not the Taxpayers? City's expensive lesson - Buffalo News editorials - The Buffalo News

 

[AmyNation]

Life in a nation supposedly where all men were created equal is great, aint it?

Obama wants equality in school disciplinary actions, too. So the white kid who gets caught chewing gum in class gets a two week suspension, but the black kid who knifes another kid in the locker room will get a single after school detention. Its all in the numbers. Fewer whites commit serious schoolhouse infractions so the punishments meted out have to be graver for whatever infractions they commit.

Link?

Obama backs race-based school discipline policies | The Daily Caller

I'm not in favor of the new initiative, however when I researched it to see if anyone else was suggesting that it meant black students wouldn't get punished but white students would, I was shocked to find that no credible news source was making that allegation.

 

[Jackson]

Tests are more about the $$$$$ and protecting turf than determining qualifications.

Oh yeah - lets just hand out promotions randomly. Can you think at all?

In the 3 businesses I own I never "hand out" promotions.
And would never do something as stupid as test for them.
I promote based on job PERFORMANCE.
Something someone like you that says "Do you want fries with that" hundreds of times a day would know nothing about.

A cop on the beat is very different from working with prosecutors on a case. Then need to know more about the law. You cannot compare the two.

 

[Jackson]

Boston anything and everything is still about the good old boy system.
I oppose affirmative action but the facts up there tell the story.
Turf protection. "Hire Pete's boy, he is a good kid." is what is going on.
And the minorities suffer.
Just the facts.

You believe it's the minorities who suffer... Not the Taxpayers? City's expensive lesson - Buffalo News editorials - The Buffalo News

I am against Affirmative Action. Hope this news gets around and it doesn't happen again.

 

[Ariux]

Then why did the minoritites just ask that they be informed, Mr. Credibility?

All job openings are publicly posted. They're charging discrimination when the problem is their own incompetence.

 

[tjvh]

Boston anything and everything is still about the good old boy system.
I oppose affirmative action but the facts up there tell the story.
Turf protection. "Hire Pete's boy, he is a good kid." is what is going on.
And the minorities suffer.
Just the facts.

You believe it's the minorities who suffer... Not the Taxpayers? City's expensive lesson - Buffalo News editorials - The Buffalo News

I am against Affirmative Action. Hope this news gets around and it doesn't happen again.

Oh, I'm with you... That link I gave sums up the results of affirmative action quite nicely. And the Taxpayers had to foot the bill.

 

[GoneBezerk]

How stupid do you have to be to have problems with a written exam?

This isn't a MCAT, GMAT, LSAT...it's a freaking police test.

If you're too stupid to answer questions on a written test about being in the police, then you shouldn't get to carry a gun that can kill people.

 

[tjvh]

How stupid do you have to be to have problems with a written exam?

This isn't a MCAT, GMAT, LSAT...it's a freaking police test.

If you're too stupid to answer questions on a written test about being in the police, then you shouldn't get to carry a gun that can kill people.

One would think so.

 

[Jackson]

Then why did the minoritites just ask that they be informed, Mr. Credibility?

All job openings are publicly posted. They're charging discrimination when the problem is their own incompetence.

Listen Lughead, they weren't publicly posted or they wouldn't have asked for it. They didn't ask for the test to be thrown out, they didn't ask for interviews in lieu of test, they just asked to be informed of the testing ahead of time as the whites were told.

Now you show me the link where it says the test was publicly posted. Amy showed me differently.

 

[Ariux]

How stupid do you have to be to have problems with a written exam?

This isn't a MCAT, GMAT, LSAT...it's a freaking police test.

If you're too stupid to answer questions on a written test about being in the police, then you shouldn't get to carry a gun that can kill people.

I bet the police tests are written at a 6th-grade reading level, aside from police jargon.

 

[Jackson]

How stupid do you have to be to have problems with a written exam?

This isn't a MCAT, GMAT, LSAT...it's a freaking police test.

If you're too stupid to answer questions on a written test about being in the police, then you shouldn't get to carry a gun that can kill people.

I bet the police tests are written at a 6th-grade reading level, aside from police jargon.

Which means you know nothing. Look, I am against Affirmative action, I am for LE ( they screwed up) and above all I am all for fairness.

 

[GoneBezerk]

If written tests are unfair, wouldn't it be unfair to write down the job opening/description....or write down the results of who passed the exam in the end?

Hell, do away with writing because there are idiots that can't READ. Everything in Boston will just be word of mouth, no internet access, no newspapers, no signs, no scoreboards at Boston Garden, etc.

 

[Dissent]

Didn't realize you needed to pass a test to harass people,assault them,plant evidence on them,sexually assault them and murder them....I just figured they gave a badge to gang members and told them to get to work..

 

[Ariux]

I bet the police tests are written at a 6th-grade reading level, aside from police jargon.

Which means you know nothing.

I have five red stars that say I do know something. You don't get red stars for losing debates.

 

[Missourian]

5 years ago Governor Sonny Perdue asked me and 4 other long time private detective agency owners to write a new test for agency license applicants.
We met for 3 days in Macon, Ga. at the Ga. Secretary of State Professional Licensing Division.
And what a joke it was as they had a dude with a PHD in test writing in charge.
Now those of us in the real world know that there was also heavy pressure from my industry to make this test very hard. And why? TURF PROTECTION to limit competition.
WELL DUH.
And we ignored the 2 professional associations here and their lobbying for a very hard test.
But the net result was a complete joke because of the test writers and bureaucrats.
Same as the Boston Police Test.
Best to listen to those of us that have been around the block for decades.
Testing is one of the worst indicators of job performance in law enforcement.

I hear you, and I agree to a certain extent. But there are some things you just have to understand by rote.

Even in my industry, the dumbest trucker has to pass written test after written test. Combination vehicles, air brakes, hazardous materials, load securement...and then be recertified in most every three years.

And these tests, have real life applications.

Do you want a guy hauling chlorine gas and a pyrophoric liquid together through your neighborhood?

I sure as hell wouldn't, and understanding these concepts could be the difference between life or death, which is why it is so important that we test for comprehension.

A police supervisor decisions will also have life altering ramifications. If an applicant is unable to meet the standard knowledge threshold to pass the advancement exam, they are obviously not prepared for promotion.

 

[GoneBezerk]

Oh, so when does being ignorant of laws laid out on a written test irrelevant to a future police officer?

I didn't realize police officers didn't need basic knowledge of the law or show they can at least learn the laws they enforce before given a badge and gun.

What about understanding the difference between a felony and misdemeanor.

Different types of weapons encountered on the job. Different types of status of people arrested i.e. legal, illegal, green card, etc.

Liberals want ignorant police officers on the streets and ones with lower IQs in general because they can turn that idiot police officer's comments against them in a court case. They also feel minority police officers will be easier on minority criminals, less arrests which is their goal.

So stopping a test that weeds out dumb people and is so-called too tough for black cops is a good thing for liberals that want a dumber police force to fool and abuse in court.

5 years ago Governor Sonny Perdue asked me and 4 other long time private detective agency owners to write a new test for agency license applicants.
We met for 3 days in Macon, Ga. at the Ga. Secretary of State Professional Licensing Division.
And what a joke it was as they had a dude with a PHD in test writing in charge.
Now those of us in the real world know that there was also heavy pressure from my industry to make this test very hard. And why? TURF PROTECTION to limit competition.
WELL DUH.
And we ignored the 2 professional associations here and their lobbying for a very hard test.
But the net result was a complete joke because of the test writers and bureaucrats.
Same as the Boston Police Test.
Best to listen to those of us that have been around the block for decades.
Testing is one of the worst indicators of job performance in law enforcement.

 

[PoliticalChic]

More affirmative action. Blacks are always at the bottom of every test whether it's an IQ test or the SAT or ACT or LSAT or police test or firefighter test. They can't make it on ability .

Boston Police Department planning new promotion system to spur diversity - The Boston Globe

Police to overhaul ranking system
Globe Correspondent / August 9, 2012

Hoping to end decades of tension over the advancement of minority officers, the Boston Police Department plans to overhaul a promotion system that has been criticized for contributing to a lack of diversity in the department’s upper ranks.

Commissioner Edward F. Davis is expected to send an e-mail to officers and command staff Thursday announcing a $2.2 million initiative to *replace a written promotion *exam used statewide with a testing system that could *include interviews and other components designed to provide a broader measure of leadership and potential.

Among the department’s approx*imately two dozen captains — the highest rank determined by the promotion exam — there is one Asian and no blacks, Hispanics, or women.

the asians never count man, poor left out people.

Wasssa mattta ....

...you never hear of Charlie Chan???

 

[Unkotare]

Is there anyone who DOESN'T think a police force works most effectively if it includes a range of different races and ethnicities?

Because if we all agree that we need Asian, Black, Hispanic police as well as whites, then all we need to discuss is how best to achieve that goal.

How about we all agree that we need the best people suited for the fucking job no matter what color their fucking skin is? How about that?

 

[Missourian]

Sure

Minority officers eye more Boston police diversity. | Global Ministries Boston

Residents, officers seek more diversity in law enforcement - Boston.com

I don't see anything in these links to underpin your conclusion.

The test is standardized, it is not position specific, so the "prep time" argument is total B.S.

The applicant must pass the test to be considered for promotion...so the "they aren't informed" argument is also B.S.

But it appears that whites are told about it and can prepare...why is that? When entering into a new category of LE, a certain amount of prepatory work has to be done. There isn't training for these jobs after you get them.

I have never been a police officer, but I am an Army veteran.

I am making an assumption that the two are similar, and understand that that assumption may be in error.

That aside, when I was an E-4 Specialist (that is the Army rank above Private First Class) I found out what was required to be promoted to E-5 Seargent, and started work to meet those requirements, I maxed out my civilian education, took the military PLD course, spent extra hours at the range improving my proficiency, and studied for my review board.

No one had to tell me it would behoove me to set this goal our embark on this course...that was my responsibility...I wanted to advance.