drac
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OK, i miss understand you. Believe that piece of land belong to someone is hard to maintain unless there is some sort of historical/legal evidence to support it. And yes to some extend jews and american indians have a very similar history. Although one might argue that north american indians did not have the same form of "country" as jews did and we consider the country to be.dilloduck said:I was referring to the fact that just because a society considers a piece of land to be THEIR homeland doesn't neccessarily mean it is.
true, thier civilization is/was as real as anyone else.There were many American Indian tribes who considered various parts of "new world" to be THEIR homeland. Were they required to register this land as theirs somewhere? Thier civilization was just as real as Israels'.
No i never said "cause God said so". Jews needed a homeland, a logical decision was to establish it at the place were anicent kingdom of israel was and judaism had its roots. In addition, at that time no one else had a country established at that place.By following your logic, this land should be given back to them because God told them this land was theirs. Once they got this land back I would imagine they would ask some people to leave their land. Would those people pack up willingly and say "good luck"?
I agree that at the begining some people were forced out, but it was not official policy and majority of refuges left on they own (imho).
It was validated by history and logical necessity to protect jews as people and nation. Now they own it by desicion of the international community. Yes, force was and is needed to protect jewish state (everyone else uses force to protect thier respective countries, why deny it to jews), but it is due to "peaceful" nature of its neigboursThe land Israel claims as it's own has been "owned" by other empires for centuries. The jews claim to Israel was a homeland is only "validated" by the old testament until given to them by the UN. Now they "own" it by UN declaration and force.