Border Agents: Government Told Us To 'Run' From Gunmen...

[RoadVirus]

You just cannot make this stuff up.

Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

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The FEMA-administered computer course, entitled &#8220;IS-907- Active Shooter: What You Can Do,&#8221; is a 45-minute tutorial that provides guidance to all employees on how to recognize indicators of possible workplace violence and what to do should their office be invaded by gunmen and focuses around three main options; either evacuate, hide out, or in dire circumstances, take action.

Main Points of the "Active Shooter" training course
Evacuate: If there is an accessible escape path, attempt to evacuate the premises.
Hide out: If evacuation is not possible, find a place to hide where the active shooter is less likely to find you.
Take action: As a last resort, and only when your life is in imminent danger, attempt to disrupt and/or incapacitate the active shooter.

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But members of Local 2544 say they are obligated to protect the public in such a situation, whether they are on duty or not. Given the instructions, some wonder if they would be disciplined for taking down a gunman in a situation like the Fort Hood shooting or the January, 2011 case in Casa Adobes, in which a deranged gunmen shot 19 people, including Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. Six people were killed.

&#8220;It is always comforting to know that for those of us who carry a weapon when we are off-duty, if we should encounter such a situation, stop a shooter and save countless lives, we can look forward to being disciplined or fired by the Border Patrol because we should have run away to hide and then maybe thrown objects at the deranged killer instead of taking action and stopping him with a firearm,&#8221; the union local's website says.

Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen | Fox News

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~Oddball

 

[The Infidel]

 

[paulitician]

Border Patrol Union Blasts Homeland Security Instructions To 'Run Away' And 'Hide' From Gunmen

Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.

&#8220;We are now taught in an &#8216;Active Shooter&#8217; course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to &#8216;run away&#8217; and &#8216;hide&#8217;" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. &#8220;If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become &#8216;aggressive&#8217; and &#8216;throw things&#8217; at him or her. We are then advised to &#8216;call law enforcement&#8217; and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."

The FEMA-administered computer course, entitled &#8220;IS-907- Active Shooter: What You Can Do,&#8221; is a 45-minute tutorial that provides guidance to all employees on how to recognize indicators of possible workplace violence and what to do should their office be invaded by gunmen and focuses around three main options; either evacuate, hide out, or in dire circumstances, take action.

Once the course is completed, employees are urged to download additional materials including a summary booklet and pocket-sized card outlining protocol, which was also handed out to employees two months ago.

One DHS employee told FoxNews.com the instruction cards were handed out to employees six weeks ago. At the time, he assumed they were only for civilian employees, not armed law enforcement officers within the department, which oversees the U.S. Customs and Border Protection...

Read more: Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen | Fox News

 

[Charles_Main]

Now that is funny.

and Pathetic

 

[Clementine]

They get in big trouble if they try to defend themselves and shoot back at the criminals.

 

[The Infidel]

 

[The Rabbi]

I remember a report about BP agents having AR-15 long guns for patrol. But no ammunition.

Who thinks this stuff up?

 

[tinydancer]

Agent Terry was armed with the bean bag ammo when he died. Big Sis needs to pay dearly for the "bean bag" deployment.

One can't keep up with all the stupid decisions this administration has made. This has got to be in the top twenty. Bean bags vs bullets along the border fighting hardened armed criminals.

I know. Let's leave Jan out there on the border the for a week armed with bean bag ammo.

Bean Bags Fired First in Arizona Shootout Killing Border Patrol Agent

By DEVIN DWYER (@devindwyer)
March 4, 2011

U.S. Border Patrol agents caught in a violent December standoff with illegal immigrants in Arizona fired the first shots, but with bean bags not bullets, newly obtained records show.

At least one of the suspected bandits armed with AK-47 assault rifles returned fire, hitting Agent Brian Terry, who later died.

"When the suspected aliens did not drop their weapons, two Border Patrol agents deployed 'less than lethal' bean bags at the suspected aliens," FBI search warrant requests say, according to the Arizona Star newspaper, which first obtained the documents. The ammunition is designed to wound and take down targets not kill them.

"At this time, at least one of the suspected aliens fired at the Border Patrol agents. Two Border Patrol agents returned fire, one with his long gun and one with his pistol."


http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bean...g-border-agent/story?id=13057455#.T_AfbZEXFJE

 

[tinydancer]

""From the very beginning, at the funeral home when they spoke to us face to face, the Border Patrol said there were no bean bags shot. That's what they told us," Brian's stepmother, Carolyn Terry, said in an interview. "They told us that when we were out in Tucson for his memorial. There were no bean bags shot. And what's the first thing on these reports? The guys shot bean bags."

Does anyone blame the Terry family for being angry? For wanting answers? Oh I remember, the investigation into his death and Holder in contempt is because everyone is racist not because of lies, lies and more lies by so many involved.

Bean Bags Fired First in Arizona Shootout Killing Border Agent Brian Terry - ABC News

 

[old navy]

And to add salt to the wounds. Idiots like Pelosi and Obama's press secretary, whatever his name is, cannot ieven honor Agent Terry to the point of remembering his name.

Pathetic

 

[JimBowie1958]

I remember a report about BP agents having AR-15 long guns for patrol. But no ammunition.

Who thinks this stuff up?

Bureaucrats who have never been on the border and not likely any other place where bullets might be sent their way.

 

[tinydancer]

And to add salt to the wounds. Idiots like Pelosi and Obama's press secretary, whatever his name is, cannot ieven honor Agent Terry to the point of remembering his name.

Pathetic

Pathetic for true. Pelosi and Carney, two very high ranking Democrats not being able to address the deceased agent by his name is appalling.

 

[old navy]

And to add salt to the wounds. Idiots like Pelosi and Obama's press secretary, whatever his name is, cannot ieven honor Agent Terry to the point of remembering his name.

Pathetic

Pathetic for true. Pelosi and Carney, two very high ranking Democrats not being able to address the deceased agent by his name is appalling.

Carney, that's his name. He's a dweeb but having to spin the lies from Team Obama must be mind-numbing.

 

[WillowTree]

Border Patrol Union Blasts Homeland Security Instructions To 'Run Away' And 'Hide' From Gunmen

Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.

“We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and ‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."

The FEMA-administered computer course, entitled “IS-907- Active Shooter: What You Can Do,” is a 45-minute tutorial that provides guidance to all employees on how to recognize indicators of possible workplace violence and what to do should their office be invaded by gunmen and focuses around three main options; either evacuate, hide out, or in dire circumstances, take action.

Once the course is completed, employees are urged to download additional materials including a summary booklet and pocket-sized card outlining protocol, which was also handed out to employees two months ago.

One DHS employee told FoxNews.com the instruction cards were handed out to employees six weeks ago. At the time, he assumed they were only for civilian employees, not armed law enforcement officers within the department, which oversees the U.S. Customs and Border Protection...

Read more: Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen | Fox News

That's really GOOD advice since all Janet will give the border patrol is rubber bullets.. Eric gives the drug cartels AK 47"s.. that's how much they love the illegals.

 

[WillowTree]

I remember a report about BP agents having AR-15 long guns for patrol. But no ammunition.

Who thinks this stuff up?

Janet dew.

 

[Katzndogz]

And to add salt to the wounds. Idiots like Pelosi and Obama's press secretary, whatever his name is, cannot ieven honor Agent Terry to the point of remembering his name.

Pathetic

Pathetic for true. Pelosi and Carney, two very high ranking Democrats not being able to address the deceased agent by his name is appalling.

Why should they? After all they got up and walked out rather than find out what happened. Is Brian Terry were black and holder white, they wouldn't have done that.

 

[Intense]

Border Patrol Union Blasts Homeland Security Instructions To 'Run Away' And 'Hide' From Gunmen

Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

It's one thing to tell civilian employees to cower under a desk if a gunman starts spraying fire in a confined area, say members of Tucson Local 2544/National Border Patrol Council, but to give armed law enforcement professionals the same advice is downright insulting. The instructions from DHS come in the form of pamphlets and a mandatory computer tutorial.

“We are now taught in an ‘Active Shooter’ course that if we encounter a shooter in a public place we are to ‘run away’ and ‘hide’" union leader Brandon Judd wrote on the website of 3,300-member union local. “If we are cornered by such a shooter we are to (only as a last resort) become ‘aggressive’ and ‘throw things’ at him or her. We are then advised to ‘call law enforcement’ and wait for their arrival (presumably, while more innocent victims are slaughtered)."

The FEMA-administered computer course, entitled “IS-907- Active Shooter: What You Can Do,” is a 45-minute tutorial that provides guidance to all employees on how to recognize indicators of possible workplace violence and what to do should their office be invaded by gunmen and focuses around three main options; either evacuate, hide out, or in dire circumstances, take action.

Once the course is completed, employees are urged to download additional materials including a summary booklet and pocket-sized card outlining protocol, which was also handed out to employees two months ago.

One DHS employee told FoxNews.com the instruction cards were handed out to employees six weeks ago. At the time, he assumed they were only for civilian employees, not armed law enforcement officers within the department, which oversees the U.S. Customs and Border Protection...

Read more: Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen | Fox News

Hope and Change/Run and Hide. Maybe we have the makings of a New Country Song Here.

 

[WillowTree]

And to add salt to the wounds. Idiots like Pelosi and Obama's press secretary, whatever his name is, cannot ieven honor Agent Terry to the point of remembering his name.

Pathetic

Pathetic for true. Pelosi and Carney, two very high ranking Democrats not being able to address the deceased agent by his name is appalling.

Why should they? After all they got up and walked out rather than find out what happened. Is Brian Terry were black and holder white, they wouldn't have done that.

I watched that when it happened. the entire cbc and most of the rest of the democrats stormed out with a "fuck you Terry's" you'll never know what happened to you son.

 

[RoadVirus]

Border Patrol Union Blasts Homeland Security Instructions To 'Run Away' And 'Hide' From Gunmen

Border Patrol agents in Arizona are blasting their bosses for telling them, along with all other Department of Homeland Security employees, to run and hide if they encounter an "active shooter."

Read more: Border Patrol union blasts Homeland Security instructions to 'run away' and 'hide' from gunmen | Fox News

It's sad. Very sad. Obama's turning us into a nation of poor, welfare-sucking cowards. He needs to be sent to the unemployment line in November.

 

[Ringel05]

Whoever came up with that needs to be reassigned to the "hottest" part of the boarder and left with only the pamphlet to defend themselves with.