BOEHNER/CANTOR blink on Killing Medicare

[8537]

Water is wet and the sun rises in the morning.

The hole $4Trillion in cuts didn't have legs. The dems have no honest desire to cut spending to lower the debt. They need another bill clinton at the helm

At this stage they need 5 Bill Clintons to help them and Bill Clintons that spray goo over interns dresses.....

One of the things that helped clinton was he had to deal almost constantly with a gop controlled congress.

By himself, with a dem controlled congress.....

I shudder to think what would have been done to the military then.

In Clinton's first two years with a Dem congress, Dick Cheney etal bitched about defense cuts....

Specifically, they bitched that Clinton wasn't cutting Defense enough

 

[jillian]

One of the things that helped clinton was he had to deal almost constantly with a gop controlled congress.

By himself, with a dem controlled congress.....

I shudder to think what would have been done to the military then.

yeah, he might have re-deployed them over and over and stop-gapped them when they thought they were going home ... or put them into two wars of choice...

oh wait...


that was shrub.

 

[jillian]

At this stage they need 5 Bill Clintons to help them and Bill Clintons that spray goo over interns dresses.....

One of the things that helped clinton was he had to deal almost constantly with a gop controlled congress.

By himself, with a dem controlled congress.....

I shudder to think what would have been done to the military then.

In Clinton's first two years with a Dem congress, Dick Cheney etal bitched about defense cuts....

Specifically, they bitched that Clinton wasn't cutting Defense enough

shhhh... they're on a roll. you know facts don't matter.


but he did get to whine, once again, about clinton and the intern (because we all know how important an issue that wasn't)

 

[Political Junky]

GOP may halt Medicare reform plans - McKnight's Long Term Care News

 

[The Rabbi]

One of the things that helped clinton was he had to deal almost constantly with a gop controlled congress.

By himself, with a dem controlled congress.....

I shudder to think what would have been done to the military then.

yeah, he might have re-deployed them over and over and stop-gapped them when they thought they were going home ... or put them into two wars of choice...

oh wait...


that was shrub.

Yeah. After 9/11 we should have just vowed to bring the perpetrators to justice and shot off a couple of missiles at aspirin factories. That worked so well for Clinton. Right??
And if Clinton hadn't "balanced the budget" on the backs of the military we might have actually ahd the men and equipment to do the job without stop losses.
But you are the biggest idiot partisan hack on this site and no doubt it goes over your head.

 

[8537]

One of the things that helped clinton was he had to deal almost constantly with a gop controlled congress.

By himself, with a dem controlled congress.....

I shudder to think what would have been done to the military then.

yeah, he might have re-deployed them over and over and stop-gapped them when they thought they were going home ... or put them into two wars of choice...

oh wait...


that was shrub.

Yeah. After 9/11 we should have just vowed to bring the perpetrators to justice and shot off a couple of missiles at aspirin factories. That worked so well for Clinton. Right??

it worked better than losing 3000 men in the invasion of a country not related to the perpetrators. Or invading a small Caribbean island.

And if Clinton hadn't "balanced the budget" on the backs of the military we might have actually ahd the men and equipment to do the job without stop losses.

Except Republicans wanted to cut the defense budget even more - and Republicans controlled the legislature where all spending bills originate.

But you are the biggest idiot racist partisan hack on this site and no doubt it goes over your head.

 

[The Rabbi]

Any proof for any of that?

Nah, of course not.

 

[hortysir]

Budget talks: Republicans offer to seek common ground with Democrats

By Lori Montgomery, Published: May 4
Senior Republicans conceded Wednesday that a deal is unlikely on a contentious plan to overhaul Medicare and offered to open budget talks with the White House by focusing on areas where both parties can agree, such as cutting farm subsidies.

On the eve of debt-reduction talks led by Vice President Biden, House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (Va.) said Republicans remain convinced that reining in federal retirement programs is the key to stabilizing the nation’s finances over the long term. But he said Republicans recognize they may need to look elsewhere to achieve consensus after President Obama “excoriated us” for a proposal to privatize Medicare.

Budget talks: Republicans offer to seek common ground with Democrats - The Washington Post

So they offered to seek common ground and the critics say "blink." There is just no pleasing some people.[/quote]

That's because is our modern society "bi-partisanship" has become a bad word

 

[8537]

Any proof for any of that?

Sure!

In subsequent years under Cheney the budgets proposed and the final outcomes followed patterns similar to the FY 1990 budget experience. Early in 1991 the secretary unveiled a plan to reduce military strength by the mid-1990s to 1.6 million, compared to 2.2 million when he entered office....

Over Cheney's four years as secretary of defense, encompassing budgets for fiscal years 1990-93, DoD's total obligational authority in current dollars declined from $291.3 billion to $269.9 billion. Except for FY 1991, when the TOA budget increased by 1.7 percent, the Cheney budgets showed negative real growth: -2.9 percent in 1990, -9.8 percent in 1992, and -8.1 percent in 1993. During this same period total military personnel declined by 19.4 percent, from 2.202 million in FY 1989 to 1.776 million in FY 1993. The Army took the largest cut, from 770,000 to 572,000-25.8 percent of its strength. The Air Force declined by 22.3 percent, the Navy by 14 percent, and the Marines by 9.7 percent.

SecDef Histories - Richard Cheney

 

[The Rabbi]

Any proof for any of that?

Sure!

In subsequent years under Cheney the budgets proposed and the final outcomes followed patterns similar to the FY 1990 budget experience. Early in 1991 the secretary unveiled a plan to reduce military strength by the mid-1990s to 1.6 million, compared to 2.2 million when he entered office....

Over Cheney's four years as secretary of defense, encompassing budgets for fiscal years 1990-93, DoD's total obligational authority in current dollars declined from $291.3 billion to $269.9 billion. Except for FY 1991, when the TOA budget increased by 1.7 percent, the Cheney budgets showed negative real growth: -2.9 percent in 1990, -9.8 percent in 1992, and -8.1 percent in 1993. During this same period total military personnel declined by 19.4 percent, from 2.202 million in FY 1989 to 1.776 million in FY 1993. The Army took the largest cut, from 770,000 to 572,000-25.8 percent of its strength. The Air Force declined by 22.3 percent, the Navy by 14 percent, and the Marines by 9.7 percent.

SecDef Histories - Richard Cheney

You realize that doesn't prove your point, right?
Did Clinton cut military and intelligence spending?