Bob Costas

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    Anyone see this fool's rant on SNF last night. Ya' think he would be fired if he aired the opposite message on gun control after this tragedy in KC ?
     
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    It wouldn't be possible to air "the opposite message on gun control" unless you first aired a first message on gun control. Costas never mentioned it. Neither did Whitlock. What they did mention was gun "culture" (I prefer 'fetishism') which is (a) a dialogue this country sorely needs and (b) an entirely different thing.

    I suspect the fetishists would prefer the dialogue to stay complacently on the idea of 'control' rather than the stickier wicket of what it was actually on.
     
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    This just gives me another reason NOT to watch that Staged NFL Reality Show.
     
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    Gun ownership is a matter of public record...
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    How to Find Out If a Person Has a Registered Gun in California
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    :clap2: Good idea. It's what the Second Amendment was written for. The creators of the Bill of Rights spoke of the world they knew; they could not have imagined what technology has "advanced" (degraded) to. Not even the Minié ball had been invented yet.


    I just now noticed that the OP's signature line mentions "naïveté" -- ironic considering his misread of Costas' commentary. Bob was proven right, even prescient.
     
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    The mindless thinking that making certain guns illegal, or even harder to get, will somehow prevent their usage and tragedies that come with them. Look how good that works with drugs.
     
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    Again this is getting off the described topic, since Bob Costas said nothing at all about gun control or bans or anything of the sort.

    However, if we entertain that tangent for the moment...

    (WaPo Wonkblog)

    IOW as long as we've got the heavily-funded NRA lobby standing up for the rights of the James Holmses and Adam Lanzas (and for themselves to profit), we can depend on them to water such bills down to little more than a technicality. And as this article goes on, without the gun-removal program Australia included, it can hardly make a dent with all the assault weapons already out there (and growing due to NRA paranoia-sowing). It's like finding out Chevrolets cause cancer, therefore we won't make Chevys any more. Might be a factor in fifty years, but not a great big impact on the here and now.

    So much for the tangent on government action, but to return to the Bob Costas commentary, which was entirely about cultural attitudes, it seems clear that wrapping up a Christmas present for ourselves of a ban on whatever instruments of death we might designate, even if the list is not watered down, isn't likely to work in a vacuum, and amounts to the same kind of treating-symptom-instead-of-disease as is the flawed idea that the antidote to gun violence is more gun violence. Both of these fallacies ignore the root causes -- which is what Bob Costas was talking about. As is often pointed out, guns don't kill, people do. And people don't kill without motivation to do so.

    Every way I look at it I can't help but see the Bob Costas/Jason Whitlock commentaries being twisted into something they're not, in order to specifically avoid discussion of these root causes. For a crowd that likes to hide behind guns in a false show of force, that's a deep degree of cowardice.

    Ironically this twisting of Costas' message has been attended by calls for his "firing", i.e. silencing a voice some don't want to hear. That's in effect the same obloquy foisted on the spirit of the Constitution (see: First Amendment) as that mindless petition to get Piers Morgan deported. And equally cowardly.
     
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    Granny says too many lil' kids gettin' shot...
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    Young children are often victims of gunfire in US
    Wed, Dec 26, 2012 - Before 20 small children were massacred at school by a gunman in Newtown, Connecticut, Luke Schuster, 6, was shot to death in New Town, North Dakota. Six-year-olds John Devine Jr and Jayden Thompson were similarly killed in Kentucky and Texas.
     
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    "Sensible gun control - let's go back to one-shot pistols and muskets, the weapons technology of the day when the 2nd amendment was written"

    That would be fine if the bad guys only had access to the same hardware (which makes your point silly)
     
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    Bob Costas made the gun community look like idiots

    Guess who ended up right all along
     

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