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Which means that Muslims can't jump up and down and threaten to kill over novels or Danish cartoons if they do not want white, bald fuck heads to do the same thing over Islamic declarations.
Which means that Muslims can't jump up and down and threaten to kill over novels or Danish cartoons if they do not want white, bald fuck heads to do the same thing over Islamic declarations.
I actually agree with this statement...
they hope to use our fears and hates to drown our reason
The point is that the BNP manipulates this hate and fear to get people to join it's party in just the same was as Hitler manipulated people's hates and fears to get people to join his.
The point is that the BNP manipulates this hate and fear to get people to join it's party in just the same was as Hitler manipulated people's hates and fears to get people to join his.
The BNP is “manipulating people’s fear and hate.”
Oh my.
Or no shit.
Anyone that has lived in the Middle East (I have) knows that most Islamic papers pretty well do this on a regular basis, from disparaging other religious minorities, to insane conspiracy theories (the Jews committed 9 11 with the help of the Neo Cons) to the insane crap Mullahs often preach about women, let alone the real oppression women face in many Islamic countries.
Not to mention what I have already mentioned, threatening to kill novelists or cartoonists who just gave an opinion.
It would seem the BNP and many radical Muslims have much in common.
Fear and hate.
Which means that Muslims can't jump up and down and threaten to kill over novels or Danish cartoons if they do not want white, bald fuck heads to do the same thing over Islamic declarations.
I actually agree with this statement...
You may agree with the statement but the issue was the BNP being a Nazi Party and my seeing the first part of a film on Hitler last night and being reminded far too much of the BNP party.
Now the particular sentence I could remember a German journalist of the time using about them wasthey hope to use our fears and hates to drown our reason
I said that is was by these methods that the BNP were managing to get more votes, that is by the manipulation of people's fears and hates.
The point is not whether you agree with your quote. The point is that the BNP manipulates this hate and fear to get people to join it's party in just the same was as Hitler manipulated people's hates and fears to get people to join his.
I actually agree with this statement...
You may agree with the statement but the issue was the BNP being a Nazi Party and my seeing the first part of a film on Hitler last night and being reminded far too much of the BNP party.
Now the particular sentence I could remember a German journalist of the time using about them wasthey hope to use our fears and hates to drown our reason
I said that is was by these methods that the BNP were managing to get more votes, that is by the manipulation of people's fears and hates.
The point is not whether you agree with your quote. The point is that the BNP manipulates this hate and fear to get people to join it's party in just the same was as Hitler manipulated people's hates and fears to get people to join his.
The reason why I even made that comment... usually I'm on the side of the underdog, the downtrodden, the immigrants... but the quote I agreed with expressed the sentiment of those on the other side of the argument - and that side has to be taken seriously and their fears need to be addressed and dealt with... The reason why parties such as BNP are gaining ground is because those fears are not adequately addressed and usually people with those fears are just told with an air of contempt that those fears are simple xenophobia and racism.
So there... The main parties have dropped the ball.. now you're gonna be eating up the consequences.
Period.
Btw, I think that was the case in Denmark as well where the populist party entered the ruling coalition and started wreaking havoc, which turned the most liberal (towards immigrants at least) country to one of the most restrictive in Europe - if not the most restrictive.
And YOU are fuelling those bald, racists BNP fuck heads. Indeed, they are depending on you.
And YOU are fuelling those bald, racists BNP fuck heads. Indeed, they are depending on you.
Speaking up against Nazi's is encouraging them We have reached the land of double speak. If you are a Nazi just be honest.
And YOU are fuelling those bald, racists BNP fuck heads. Indeed, they are depending on you.
Speaking up against Nazi's is encouraging them We have reached the land of double speak. If you are a Nazi just be honest.
Anyone can speak up against Nazis, that is easy. What you need to do is speak up against Islamic religious fanatics.
You have some strange ideas. .
You may agree with the statement but the issue was the BNP being a Nazi Party and my seeing the first part of a film on Hitler last night and being reminded far too much of the BNP party.
Now the particular sentence I could remember a German journalist of the time using about them was
I said that is was by these methods that the BNP were managing to get more votes, that is by the manipulation of people's fears and hates.
The point is not whether you agree with your quote. The point is that the BNP manipulates this hate and fear to get people to join it's party in just the same was as Hitler manipulated people's hates and fears to get people to join his.
The reason why I even made that comment... usually I'm on the side of the underdog, the downtrodden, the immigrants... but the quote I agreed with expressed the sentiment of those on the other side of the argument - and that side has to be taken seriously and their fears need to be addressed and dealt with... The reason why parties such as BNP are gaining ground is because those fears are not adequately addressed and usually people with those fears are just told with an air of contempt that those fears are simple xenophobia and racism.
So there... The main parties have dropped the ball.. now you're gonna be eating up the consequences.
Period.
What then do you think should be being done? My guess is not so much that people here in the UK are terrified, I think it has more to do with the fact that we had not properly dealt with racism towards Muslims - most Muslims here being from Pakistan, then called Paki's now Muslims with the same disdain. In that way 9/11 was a gift to the BNP. Lots of racism already there, add to it fear - and the BNP does work at creating and magnifying that fear - there is no doubt about that.
What policy do you think is needed, why is it needed and how would it be implemented.
Btw, I think that was the case in Denmark as well where the populist party entered the ruling coalition and started wreaking havoc, which turned the most liberal (towards immigrants at least) country to one of the most restrictive in Europe - if not the most restrictive.
What is going on with these fascist groups in Europe is very concerning and like you say very surprising.
Europe however has always managed to hold onto a steady base of Nazi fascist groups. Clearly they were on the ball to take the opportunity when the cartoon thing came up.
Here in the UK Nazi parties have not had much luck. Please tell me what you think the need is that has not been done and how it should be done.
Speaking up against Nazi's is encouraging them We have reached the land of double speak. If you are a Nazi just be honest.
Anyone can speak up against Nazis, that is easy. What you need to do is speak up against Islamic religious fanatics.
You have some strange ideas. Did you see what the title of this thread is. Lord preserve us from those who come on a forum believing that interjecting into threads their own bias and then believing that anyone who does not share the same prejudice as them has no crediibility. May I suggest Stormfront. You will find plenty with your opinions there.
For the meantime this thread is about BNP Britains Nazi Party.
Anyone can speak up against Nazis, that is easy. What you need to do is speak up against Islamic religious fanatics.
You have some strange ideas. Did you see what the title of this thread is. Lord preserve us from those who come on a forum believing that interjecting into threads their own bias and then believing that anyone who does not share the same prejudice as them has no crediibility. May I suggest Stormfront. You will find plenty with your opinions there.
For the meantime this thread is about BNP Britains Nazi Party.
I believe a post about the dangers of militant Islam is probably to be expected in a thread about the BNP. You may not like it but it is, after all, a related subject.
This Islam issue has been front and center for some time now. Indeed, the current lead article on the BNP's website is about the danger of allowing a Muslim country to join the EU.
You have some strange ideas. Did you see what the title of this thread is. Lord preserve us from those who come on a forum believing that interjecting into threads their own bias and then believing that anyone who does not share the same prejudice as them has no crediibility. May I suggest Stormfront. You will find plenty with your opinions there.
For the meantime this thread is about BNP Britains Nazi Party.
I believe a post about the dangers of militant Islam is probably to be expected in a thread about the BNP. You may not like it but it is, after all, a related subject.
This Islam issue has been front and center for some time now. Indeed, the current lead article on the BNP's website is about the danger of allowing a Muslim country to join the EU.
If you wish to promote the BNP then that is of course your right.
I was simply interested whether anyone had seen the Channel 4 program on Hitler and the similarities I found to his way of working.
This thread is about the BNP Britain's Nazi party for that reason it would be nice just for a short while to be free of BNP propaganda.
The reason why I even made that comment... usually I'm on the side of the underdog, the downtrodden, the immigrants... but the quote I agreed with expressed the sentiment of those on the other side of the argument - and that side has to be taken seriously and their fears need to be addressed and dealt with... The reason why parties such as BNP are gaining ground is because those fears are not adequately addressed and usually people with those fears are just told with an air of contempt that those fears are simple xenophobia and racism.
So there... The main parties have dropped the ball.. now you're gonna be eating up the consequences.
Period.
What then do you think should be being done? My guess is not so much that people here in the UK are terrified, I think it has more to do with the fact that we had not properly dealt with racism towards Muslims - most Muslims here being from Pakistan, then called Paki's now Muslims with the same disdain. In that way 9/11 was a gift to the BNP. Lots of racism already there, add to it fear - and the BNP does work at creating and magnifying that fear - there is no doubt about that.
What policy do you think is needed, why is it needed and how would it be implemented.
Btw, I think that was the case in Denmark as well where the populist party entered the ruling coalition and started wreaking havoc, which turned the most liberal (towards immigrants at least) country to one of the most restrictive in Europe - if not the most restrictive.
What is going on with these fascist groups in Europe is very concerning and like you say very surprising.
Europe however has always managed to hold onto a steady base of Nazi fascist groups. Clearly they were on the ball to take the opportunity when the cartoon thing came up.
Here in the UK Nazi parties have not had much luck. Please tell me what you think the need is that has not been done and how it should be done.
Honestly, I wish I had an answer for you... One of the arguments is that the major parties should try to address fears of those that would possibly vote for parties such as BNP... how? Possibly by launching some media campaign that promotes understanding between immigrants and the British population... a bit of positive propaganda, educational programmes that deal with inter-cultural understanding, etc. I don't know exactly the situation in Britain, so I can't speak directly to what British parties are doing... but it has to steal the wind from BNP's sails so to speak... Now, it won't be able to prevent all the voters voting for BNP, because there are some true racists and xenophobes among them, but people who are not that, just reacting to what they perceive as scary, etc...
Another dimension is actually working with immigrants and making sure they know what is expected of them when they enter GB. In Sweden, one party wants every immigrant that decides to live in Sweden to sign some sort of 'social contract' where they are told that they will be given freedom of expression, religion, and all that, but in return, they are expected to follow strictly and passionately Swedish laws, etc.
Yet another dimension is having better control of immigration... now that's a tough one. You have to persuade people that there are tough measures applied to immigration....and maybe add a little one or two to prove that they are doing something about immigration in that way as well.
It is war for hearts and minds really... (cliche but true)