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New, funny as hell twist.
The idiot birthers via Orly Tits, are now claiming they found his Kenyan Birth Certificate,
Yee Haw! huh?
One problem: The document says "Republic of Kenya" on it - except...Wait for it:
Kenya was not a Republic when the "document" was signed!
!
Meanwhile, an image of an apparently fraudulent Kenyan certificate of birth circulated on the Web today from an unknown source. It alleged Obama was born in Mombasa. But a contributor at FreeRepublic.com debunked it, declaring "Busted!"
He pointed out that the background text, in Dutch, explained, in a rough translation, "This is not a government document. This is political commentary."
[/indent]So again I ask, why doesn't President Obama, the defender of transparency, just release the documentation that is being requested, instead of actively blocking it's release?
Because the state only issues COLB upon request for a birth certificate. I've shown you this several times.
Ok. Thanks.Well, as far as Obama goes, a copy that isn't 'certified' wouldn't mean squat. So I'm not sure what your point is regarding the possible issuance of long forms for genealogy. But I've seen nothing here that proves they provide "long" copies for that purpose (and sorry, the link you provide isn't loading, server down... I'll try again in a bit).It doesn't say certified copies on the genealogy request page...it just says copies.
Your argument is faulty -just because the DOH doesn't issue a certified copy of the long form as proof of birth doesn't mean they can't provide regular (non-certified) copies for other uses, such as genealogical research.
In fact we've proved that they do provide copies for genealogical research.
This would be mind-numbingly easy for the BC crowd to prove. All they need to do is find someone who was born in Hawaii (preferably in the early 60's so we'd know the form would be similar to Obama's) to request a long form of their birth certificate from the state DOH.
Then we move on to my other question. And here's someone y'all can get to prove it:
Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
Have her request a long form BC from the state DOH. That would be perfect... her children were born the day after President Obama.
Check out the link in the WND story.
Meanwhile, an image of an apparently fraudulent Kenyan certificate of birth circulated on the Web today from an unknown source. It alleged Obama was born in Mombasa. But a contributor at FreeRepublic.com debunked it, declaring "Busted!"
He pointed out that the background text, in Dutch, explained, in a rough translation, "This is not a government document. This is political commentary."
Constitution:
12 December 1963; amended as a republic 1964
Have fun fishing.[/indent]So again I ask, why doesn't President Obama, the defender of transparency, just release the documentation that is being requested, instead of actively blocking it's release?
Because the state only issues COLB upon request for a birth certificate. I've shown you this several times.
You keep saying it but it proves nothing.
I agree that the state of Hawaii only issues COLB as proof of birth.
I have proved that Obama could request a copy of his original birth certificate if he chose to do so.
Have you posted a credible link that states that if Obama sought a copy of his long form it would be refused?
If you have would you mind reposting it...I missed it.
Now for real I'm going fishing...I'll be back on tonight.
that certificate shown is the original, given to parents at birth, NOT a copy of the copy, of the original, the state holds on to....???
Ok. Thanks.
Then we move on to my other question. And here's someone y'all can get to prove it:
Unveiled! Hawaii's 1961 long-form birth certificates
Have her request a long form BC from the state DOH. That would be perfect... her children were born the day after President Obama.
that certificate shown is the original, given to parents at birth, NOT a copy of the copy, of the original, the state holds on to....???
The one the woman is holding wasn't issued to her at birth. Without clicking on the link again, I believe it says 1966 or '65. Probably the copy she got to enroll her kids in school.
Now for real I'm going fishing...I'll be back on tonight.
It didn't become a republic till some 10 months later.
"Republic of Kenya" ROFLMAO!!!!!
They are dumb as a bag of hammers
Constitution:
12 December 1963; amended as a republic 1964
http://memory.loc.gov/frd/cs/profiles/Kenya.pdf
"Kenya became independent on December 12, 1963, and the next year became a republic and joined the Commonwealth."
It didn't become a republic till some 10 months later.
"Republic of Kenya" ROFLMAO!!!!!
They are dumb as a bag of hammers
Constitution:
12 December 1963; amended as a republic 1964
http://memory.loc.gov/frd/cs/profiles/Kenya.pdf
"Kenya became independent on December 12, 1963, and the next year became a republic and joined the Commonwealth."
Oily Tits and her gang really fucked up on that one. lol.
actually, if you look at when that document was signed(it has the date at the bottom) Kenya was a republic thenNew, funny as hell twist.
The idiot birthers via Orly Tits, are now claiming they found his Kenyan Birth Certificate,
Yee Haw! huh?
One problem: The document says "Republic of Kenya" on it - except...Wait for it:
Kenya was not a Republic when the "document" was signed!
That's a photocopy or something lol. The word escapes me.ahhhhh....ty, well my original was black like that, so i presumed....?
i lost it, my copies all looked like obama's....i have lost it, SEVERAL TIMES....though i am certain they are all in a SAFE place somewhere around here!
quit laughing emma
"Republic of Kenya" ROFLMAO!!!!!
They are dumb as a bag of hammers
Constitution:
12 December 1963; amended as a republic 1964
http://memory.loc.gov/frd/cs/profiles/Kenya.pdf
"Kenya became independent on December 12, 1963, and the next year became a republic and joined the Commonwealth."
When DId Kenya declare itself as a Republic, Dive?quit laughing emma
"Republic of Kenya" ROFLMAO!!!!!
They are dumb as a bag of hammers
Constitution:
12 December 1963; amended as a republic 1964
http://memory.loc.gov/frd/cs/profiles/Kenya.pdf
"Kenya became independent on December 12, 1963, and the next year became a republic and joined the Commonwealth."
the document was signed after it became a republic
he clearly didnt READ the document too well
actually, if you look at when that document was signed(it has the date at the bottom) Kenya was a republic thenNew, funny as hell twist.
The idiot birthers via Orly Tits, are now claiming they found his Kenyan Birth Certificate,
Yee Haw! huh?
One problem: The document says "Republic of Kenya" on it - except...Wait for it:
Kenya was not a Republic when the "document" was signed!
Kenya Republic Act 1965 (c.5)Order in Council or instrument in consequence of Kenya having become a Republic, may be made so as to have effect from 12th December 1964.
But it's got foldies in it and everything!,actually, if you look at when that document was signed(it has the date at the bottom) Kenya was a republic thenNew, funny as hell twist.
The idiot birthers via Orly Tits, are now claiming they found his Kenyan Birth Certificate,
Yee Haw! huh?
One problem: The document says "Republic of Kenya" on it - except...Wait for it:
Kenya was not a Republic when the "document" was signed!
Not on February 17, 1964 they weren't.
Kenya Republic Act 1965 (c.5)Order in Council or instrument in consequence of Kenya having become a Republic, may be made so as to have effect from 12th December 1964.
Besides that, it has an awfully modern look for something that issued in '64 (and the paper is pretty crisp and clean for something 45 years old). Dan Rather, anyone?
Taitz told WND that the document came from an anonymous source who doesn't want his name known because "he's afraid for his life."
