Billy Graham Purchases Ads

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    Um... yeah... it does.

    For years and years, BIlly Grahmn and people around him have called Mormonism a cult.

    Which means that they were telling Christians that the Mormons were peddling a false doctrine that could lead people into Hell and Damnation for all eternity. Forever.

    Now, to me, this is a silly argument, because there is no God or Heaven or Hell, but if you really believe that there is, this SHOULD be a big deal.

    So what really changed that suddenly, Mormonism is no longer a cult, and it is no longer misleading people into possible damnation?

    That a Mormon is the only chance you guys have of stopping Obama from getting a second term.

    That seems to me to be pretty flimsy theology. But if Theology wasn't flismy in general, I wouldn't have rejected religion 30 years ago.
     
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    To try and bring things back on course, I think the issue is that Graham has asserted for decades that Mormonism is a cult, and now that one is running for Republican presidency, he has coincidentally changed his stance on the subject. Billy Graham has been a powerful and influential spiritual leader for many decades. How is it not appropriate to question his convictions and his integrity if he is willing to overlook a decades-long religious conviction for the sake of party loyalty? how is it not appropriate to question whether or not his party loyalties outweigh his faith?

    A Mormon running for President 20 years ago would have been unheard of. I gotta hand it to him, Romney is charming the socks off of mainstream Christianity.

    p.s. I am questioning Graham's integrity, not that of Republicans.
     
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    Actually, you should probably question both.

    Mormons Running for President is nothing new. Joseph Smith (Liar, Child Molestor, Founder of Mormonism) Put his name in nomination for the presidency in 1844. Thankfully, they quickly shot him after that.

    Romney's Dad ran in 1968, until he made an idiotic statement about how the Army had "Brainwashed him" on the subject of Vietnam. (Funny, I thought being a Mormon, the brains come pre-washed.)

    Got to use up all these snide comments about Mormonism, probably won't be talking about it much after Wednesday.. Heh,heh, heh....
     
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    Glad you reminded me, Erroneous Joe....

    ...here is the thread I've dedicated to you:

    http://www.usmessageboard.com/religion-and-ethics/259427-common-sense-vs-the-bible.html



    I didn't use your title, as I didn't ask your permission...but you'll recognize your words.
     
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    I didn't think I would have to qualify the statement, but if I have to:

    A Mormon gaining the nomination of either of the two big parties would have been unheard of.
     
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    There is a great error you and Erroneous Joe make, in believing that we are dealing with a theological issue....rather than a political one.

    No one is suggesting a vote for a religious belief...merely the clear choice between the political beliefs of Romney and Obama.

    Proof?

    Sure.

    Name any religious dictum imposed by Romney as governor of Massachusetts.
    If you cannot....my premise prevails.
     
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    Honestly, I have to truly wonder, reading that drivel, if you aren't a few tacos short of a combination platter.

    You put up my argument, and then you did everything but address it...

    But since you are feeling SOOOO special, maybe I'll try to school you one more time..
     
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    Looking forward to it.
     
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    I wasn't questioning Romney, I was questioning Graham. And you're right, it is every bit a political issue. That was my point.
     
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    Are you sure?

    You did write this: "A Mormon running for President 20 years ago would have been unheard of. I gotta hand it to him, Romney is charming the socks off of mainstream Christianity."


    But....I can appreciate one trying to put daylight between their position and that of the bigot Erroneous Joe.
     
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