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[Lesh]

Bill Barr’s Very Strange Memo on Obstruction of Justice

The guy who recommended pardons for the Iran Contra criminals campaigned for the AG job TELLING Trump that he would protect him.

And of course he got the job and did exactly that

 

[Lesh]

This was written BEFORE he got the job

the first huge and striking problem with Barr’s memo is that he unjustifiably makes countless assumptions about what Mueller is doing; about Mueller’s purported “theory” of presidential criminal culpability; about Mueller’s “sweeping” and “all-encompassing” “interpretation” of the statute and Constitution; about “Mueller’s core premise”; . . . about “unprecedented” steps Mueller is proposing to take; about “Mueller’s proposed regime”; about “Mueller’s immediate target”; about Mueller’s presumed failure to “provide a standard” for what constitutes “corruptly” trying to impede proceedings; about Mueller’s “demands” that the President submit to interrogation; etc.

To read this memo, you’d think Barr were replying to a legal brief that Mueller had submitted in support of a prosecution of the President for obstruction of a federal proceeding. Yet as Barr concedes at the outset, he was “in the dark about many facts.” Indeed, he presumably was “in the dark” about virtually everything he wrote about. From all that appears, Barr was simply conjuring from whole cloth a preposterously long set of assumptions about how Special Counsel Mueller was adopting extreme and unprecedented-within-DOJ views about every pertinent question and investigatory decision—and that Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein was allowing him to do so, despite the fact that Mueller is required to “comply with the rules, regulations, procedures, practices and policies of the Department of Justice” and to “consult with appropriate offices within the Department for guidance with respect to established practices, policies and procedures of the Department.”

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Bill Barr’s Very Strange Memo on Obstruction of Justice

The guy who recommended pardons for the Iran Contra criminals campaigned for the AG job TELLING Trump that he would protect him.

And of course he got the job and did exactly that

You still mad that Reagan beat the Contras?

 

[kyzr]

Here is the 19 page Barr memo. It provides legal opinions, similar to the ones that Dershowitz issues.

Reminder: William Barr Critiqued Mueller's Obstruction Focus Before He Became AG | HuffPost

 

[Lesh]

It shows everyone that Barr had decided what he was going to say about Mueller's report before he ever saw it

 

[Lesh]

This was written BEFORE he got the job

the first huge and striking problem with Barr’s memo is that he unjustifiably makes countless assumptions about what Mueller is doing; about Mueller’s purported “theory” of presidential criminal culpability; about Mueller’s “sweeping” and “all-encompassing” “interpretation” of the statute and Constitution; about “Mueller’s core premise”; . . . about “unprecedented” steps Mueller is proposing to take; about “Mueller’s proposed regime”; about “Mueller’s immediate target”; about Mueller’s presumed failure to “provide a standard” for what constitutes “corruptly” trying to impede proceedings; about Mueller’s “demands” that the President submit to interrogation; etc.

To read this memo, you’d think Barr were replying to a legal brief that Mueller had submitted in support of a prosecution of the President for obstruction of a federal proceeding. Yet as Barr concedes at the outset, he was “in the dark about many facts.” Indeed, he presumably was “in the dark” about virtually everything he wrote about. From all that appears, Barr was simply conjuring from whole cloth a preposterously long set of assumptions about how Special Counsel Mueller was adopting extreme and unprecedented-within-DOJ views about every pertinent question and investigatory decision—and that Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein was allowing him to do so, despite the fact that Mueller is required to “comply with the rules, regulations, procedures, practices and policies of the Department of Justice” and to “consult with appropriate offices within the Department for guidance with respect to established practices, policies and procedures of the Department.”

WTF is with the strike outs?

 

[Lesh]

Indeed, it is not an exaggeration to say that Barr’s entire memo is predicated on two broad assumptions: first, that he knows Mueller’s legal theory, and second, that he understands the fact pattern Mueller is investigating. “It appears Mueller’s team is investigating a possible case of ‘obstruction’ by the President predicated substantially on his expression of hope that the Comey [sic] could eventually ‘let ... go’ of its investigation of Flynn and his action in firing Comey,” Barr writes in his second paragraph.

Neither assumption is, in our judgment, warranted. Unlike Barr, we don’t purport to know what Mueller’s obstruction theory is. It’s a subject about which one of us has been puzzling over a long period of time and in a number of articles. We also don’t purport to know what fact patterns Mueller is focusing on. But here’s a limb onto which we are prepared to venture: the reality is more complicated than the facts Barr has “assumed” for purposes of predicating nearly 20 pages of legal analysis. In fact, it’s a lot more complicated.


And Barr ended up with





Four Pages

 

[ColonelAngus]

You libs are so predictable.

Attack whomever is standing in the way of what you want.

There was no collusion, and if there is no crime, how do you obstruct justice?

Mueller was allowed to complete the report.

Your side lost. Just say you are sorry for lying.

 

[Oddball]

It shows everyone that Barr had decided what he was going to say about Mueller's report before he ever saw it

If what he has said about it isn't true, Mueller would have said something by now.

Seriously, you have to be trying to be as big a dope as you are demonstrating.

 

[kyzr]

Mueller declared very clearly that there was no collusion.
Rudy says that without an underlying crime there can be no obstruction, so I have no clue what the dems are still whining about
Giuliani: "Impossible To Obstruct Justice If There's No Underlying Crime"

 

[Lesh]

Mueller was allowed to complete the report.

Well isn't that nice of Trump ...to "allow" the investigation to continue.

Unfortunately an investigation that we have yet to see the results of...because Barr is HIDING it from the American people

 

[Lesh]

Mueller declared very clearly that there was no collusion.

Mueller has made no such declaration. BARR has. Let me know when you find Mueller saying that

Rudy says that without an underlying crime there can be no obstruction, so I have no clue what the dems are still whining about

Ghouliani says?

Oh well there ya go. Unfortunately he is full of shit. Has never heard of Scooter Libby or Martha Stewart? I'd be willing to bet he got more than a few convictions for obstruction with "no underlying crime" being prosecuted when he was a prosecutor. He's a friggin shill.

 

[Claudette]

You libs are so predictable.

Attack whomever is standing in the way of what you want.

There was no collusion, and if there is no crime, how do you obstruct justice?

Mueller was allowed to complete the report.

Your side lost. Just say you are sorry for lying.

They really do enjoy beating a dead horse.

They were all so sure that Mueller's report would convict Trump and when it didn't they lost what little mind they have.

Gotta love dead horse beaters.

 

[kyzr]

Mueller declared very clearly that there was no collusion.

Mueller has made no such declaration. BARR has. Let me know when you find Mueller saying that

Rudy says that without an underlying crime there can be no obstruction, so I have no clue what the dems are still whining about

Ghouliani says?

Oh well there ya go. Unfortunately he is full of shit. Has never heard of Scooter Libby or Martha Stewart? I'd be willing to bet he got more than a few convictions for obstruction with "no underlying crime" being prosecuted when he was a prosecutor. He's a friggin shill.

Here is the link to Barr's letter:
https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/d... to House and Senate Judiciary Committees.pdf

Here is a cut from the Barr letter that quotes the Mueller Report. It clearly says "no collusion" in the last two sentences.

 

[whitehall]

Who were the "Iran-Contra criminals"? I don't recall a trial or conviction.

 

[Edgetho]

There was a House Investigation, a Senate investigation, an FBI investigation, a Special Prosecutor investigation and a relentless Media Investigation -- ALL of whom found -- NOTHING!!!

And yet, here we are with our resident scumbag trying to tell you how guilty Trump is of -- Anything. Everything.

Somebody put this fucking idiot out of his misery. Seriously.

He's a troll

 

[toobfreak]

It shows everyone that Barr had decided what he was going to say about Mueller's report before he ever saw it

You mean kinda like how Obama commented that there'd be no corruption found, not even a smidgen, in the IRS scandal while the investigation was still ongoing and not even finished?

Or do you mean like how AG Loretta Lynch met privately aboard Bill Clintons plane to talk to him secretly while his wife Hillary was under investigation, er, ah, a "matter" for federal felonies?

OK, now I understand.

 

[toobfreak]

Indeed, it is not an exaggeration to say that Barr’s entire memo is predicated on two broad assumptions: first, that he knows Mueller’s legal theory, and second, that he understands the fact pattern Mueller is investigating. “It appears Mueller’s team is investigating a possible case of ‘obstruction’ by the President predicated substantially on his expression of hope that the Comey [sic] could eventually ‘let ... go’ of its investigation of Flynn and his action in firing Comey,” Barr writes in his second paragraph. Neither assumption is, in our judgment, warranted. Unlike Barr, we don’t purport to know what Mueller’s obstruction theory is. It’s a subject about which one of us has been puzzling over a long period of time and in a number of articles. We also don’t purport to know what fact patterns Mueller is focusing on. But here’s a limb onto which we are prepared to venture: the reality is more complicated than the facts Barr has “assumed” for purposes of predicating nearly 20 pages of legal analysis. In fact, it’s a lot more complicated. And Barr ended up with Four Pages

There there, son. Maybe you'll get the big bad boogie man next time.

 

[Lesh]

You libs are so predictable.

Attack whomever is standing in the way of what you want.

There was no collusion, and if there is no crime, how do you obstruct justice?

Mueller was allowed to complete the report.

Your side lost. Just say you are sorry for lying.

They really do enjoy beating a dead horse.

They were all so sure that Mueller's report would convict Trump and when it didn't they lost what little mind they have.

Gotta love dead horse beaters.

This “dead horse” is far from dead. Have you read the Report?

No?

Barr is sitting in it?

Oh