Biden's ATF raids Amish dairy farmer, seizes firearm stash in potential 'rogue gun retailer' bust

[1srelluc]

Damn Amish!

Two weeks ago, agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives stormed Reuben King's Leacock Township property, seizing an untold number of firearms as part of an ongoing investigation into the farmer's alleged gun retail business.

“ATF agents, as part of an ongoing investigation, executed an enforcement operation at the Cattail Foundry and seized evidence,” on Jan. 12, ATF spokesperson Robert Cucinotta announced Monday, according to Lancaster Online.

So far, no arrests have been made, and no charges have been filed in the case, as the ATF stays mum about the details.

Biden's ATF raids Amish dairy farmer, seizes firearm stash in potential 'rogue gun retailer' bust

 

[jackflash]

The ATF is but one of four federal bureaucracies that need to be terminated in my opinion.

 

[strollingbones]

so everyone can have illegal guns? that is one of the problems with 2nd adm defenders....illegal is illegal be it involving guns or not...

 

[odanny]

The ATF is but one of four federal bureaucracies that need to be terminated in my opinion.

Your opinion means nothing.

 

[DukeU]

What is illegal with what he's doing? Nothing......End of story.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

There's gotta be a joke in here somewhere, I know there is. Weapons proliferation among the Amish. What is this world coming to.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Damn Amish!

Two weeks ago, agents from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives stormed Reuben King's Leacock Township property, seizing an untold number of firearms as part of an ongoing investigation into the farmer's alleged gun retail business.

“ATF agents, as part of an ongoing investigation, executed an enforcement operation at the Cattail Foundry and seized evidence,” on Jan. 12, ATF spokesperson Robert Cucinotta announced Monday, according to Lancaster Online.

So far, no arrests have been made, and no charges have been filed in the case, as the ATF stays mum about the details.

Biden's ATF raids Amish dairy farmer, seizes firearm stash in potential 'rogue gun retailer' bust

This story is likely as true as the one you posted about the Wisconsin Assembly voting to Reclaim Wisconsin’s Electors due to fraud.

 

[1srelluc]

This story is likely as true as the one you posted about the Wisconsin Assembly voting to Reclaim Wisconsin’s Electors due to fraud.

Meh, true or not it got another rise out of you so it's worth it.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Meh, true or not it got another rise out of you so it's worth it.

Oh yeah, this is a rise for sure.

 

[Blues Man]

so everyone can have illegal guns? that is one of the problems with 2nd adm defenders....illegal is illegal be it involving guns or not...

There was nothing mentioned that any of the guns confiscated were "illegal".

Currently there is no requirement for anyone to be licensed to sell guns. In fact there is no legal definition of what constitutes being a gun retailer.

If the ATF cannot point to any statute that specifies how many guns a person can buy or sell without a FFL then this guy is going to be in the clear.

 

[Blues Man]

There was nothing mentioned that any of the guns confiscated were "illegal".

Currently there is no requirement for anyone to be licensed to sell guns. In fact there is no legal definition of what constitutes being a gun retailer other than only an FFL holder can buy directly from manufacturers.

If the ATF cannot point to any statute that specifies how many guns a person can buy or sell without a FFL then this guy is going to be in the clear.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

$250,000 fine.

Selling guns without a license.

 

[marvin martian]

seizing an untold number of firearms

How much would you bet the "untold number" is less than 20?

 

[Mac-7]

The ATF is engaging in harrassment

 

[miketx]

Black amish?

 

[progressive hunter]

so everyone can have illegal guns? that is one of the problems with 2nd adm defenders....illegal is illegal be it involving guns or not...

no such thing as an illegal gun,,

 

[M14 Shooter]

so everyone can have illegal guns? that is one of the problems with 2nd adm defenders....illegal is illegal be it involving guns or not...

There are no illegal guns - just illegal possession.
What was illegal about the guns confiscated by the ATF?

 

[1srelluc]

How much would you bet the "untold number" is less than 20?

There was a guy in my AO years ago that had a 1000+ gun collection confiscated, many historical CW pieces, he got them all back (never charged) but it looked like they tossed them in the back of a dump truck with a half load of gravel and drove them around on twenty miles of washboard road, thousands in damage. Fuck the ATF with a piece of rusty re-bar.

 

[Blues Man]

$250,000 fine.

Selling guns without a license.

There is no requirement for any licensing to sell firearms.

https://www.atf.gov/file/100871/download

What activities require a dealer’s license? Federal law does not establish a “bright-line” rule for when a federal firearms license is required. As a result, there is no specific threshold number or frequency of sales, quantity of firearms, or amount of profit or time invested that triggers the licensure requirement.

 

[Otis Mayfield]

There is no requirement for any licensing to sell firearms.

https://www.atf.gov/file/100871/download

What activities require a dealer’s license? Federal law does not establish a “bright-line” rule for when a federal firearms license is required. As a result, there is no specific threshold number or frequency of sales, quantity of firearms, or amount of profit or time invested that triggers the licensure requirement.

How do they determine a private seller from a dealer?

That's why they're arresting him. They believe he was dealing guns.