Biden Withholding Humanitarian Aide To Lihiana Hawaii Residents.

[Thunk]

I'm reading unconfirmed rumors that there are THOUSANDS dead on Maui from the fires. Major cover-up is going on.

Time will tell...I guess.

 

[bodecea]

For some crazy reason the government doesn't want humanitarian aide to get to the residents on Maui.

Lying again, I see.

 

[excalibur]

 

[westwall]

Why do you post such Bullshit?

Do you think we are stupid?

We KNOW you're stupid.

 

[mudwhistle]

They are suing the hell out of the Rail Company

Meanwhile they have to dip into their savings (if they have any) and pay for a place to live while they wait 2 or 3 years for the lawsuit to make it thru court.

 

[okfine]

You get a trophy too.... stupid shit like you needs validation, and I'm here to give it.

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Is that the dick you won at a Trump rally?

 

[1srelluc]

Yep....FEMA is there to deliver the Bureaucracy and the Red-Tape.

Yep, you are not far wrong....Fed money comes with long fed strings.

In the grand scheme of things it's not even much of a disaster other than the loss of life. Hell look at the NE flash flooding this year. Easily as much damage across the region.

It remains to be seen why the loss of life was so great in HI but your answer will not come from what the feds did or didn't do on that fateful night. That's for the local and state authorities to answer to.

 

[mudwhistle]

Yep, you are not far wrong....Fed money comes with long fed strings.

In the grand scheme of things it's not even much of a disaster other than the loss of life. Hell look at the NE flash flooding this year. Easily as much damage across the region.

It remains to be seen why the loss of life was so great in HI but your answer will not come from what the feds did or didn't do on that fateful night. That's for the local and state authorities to answer to.

I visited Maui several years ago. Many of those buildings have been there since before WWII.
Lihiana is beautiful and now it looks like Germany after the war.
Meanwhile Biden says "No Comment" when asked about the deathtoll and still sends another $24 billion to his money launderer in Ukraine.

 

[1srelluc]

I visited Maui several years ago. Many of those buildings have been there since before WWII.
Lihiana is beautiful and now it looks like Germany after the war.
Meanwhile Biden says "No Comment" when asked about the deathtoll and still sends another $24 billion to his money launderer in Ukraine.

Yeah, from the look of things in "before" pics there were a shit-load of off-code firetraps in the area. Who is to blame for that?

The "after" pics more resemble Tokyo than Berlin.....Wood structures burned to their foundations.

 

[toobfreak]

We are a great country

Really? We are great at only four things now:

1. Military spending.
2. Number per capita that we arrest and imprison.
3. Most number of corrupt politicians using 'democracy' as the shield for getting rich off of their crimes.
4. A media totally complicit with hiding government corruption instead of exposing it.

 

[surada]

Where's Joe?

They don't need a presidential photo op.

 

[1srelluc]

Yeah, from the look of things in "before" pics there were a shit-load of off-code firetraps in the area. Who is to blame for that?

The "after" pics more resemble Tokyo than Berlin.....Wood structures burned to the foundations.

 

[JGalt]

They don't need a presidential photo op.

They need to at least know that this country has a leader, and this "leader" seems to be missing. He couldn't even make a public statement about the tragic event. All he could muster up was "No comment."

Where's Joe?

 

[mudwhistle]

Yeah, from the look of things in "before" pics there were a shit-load of off-code firetraps in the area. Who is to blame for that?

I guess the answer is to burn it all down and make sure all of the children are home from school when they do it.

They started out burning WWII baracks here at Ft Campbell 25 years ago and they burned so hot that you could feel the heat from 100 meters away. So they started demolishing them instead.
But they're still national landmarks. They tried preserving them, but it seems rich folks wanted to build 15 min cities there instead. They want another Singapore or something.
Oprah has been buying up acre after acre on Maui. It was reported that she had two properties in Lihiana that weren't touched by the fire.

 

[Crepitus]

For some crazy reason the government doesn't want humanitarian aide to get to the residents on Maui.

He is? What's all this then?

Here’s what we know the federal government has deployed to Hawaii in response to the wildfires so far:

• FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell traveled to Maui on Friday. She said on Thursday that FEMA was providing meals for 5,000 people for five days.
• FEMA Region 9 Administrator Bob Fenton, who has been working from Oahu, mobilized an incident response team earlier this week to help with the federal response, a White House spokesperson told CNN.
• Fenton said on Thursday that cadaver dogs from California and Washington were being brought to Maui to help in recovery efforts in affected areas in Lahaina.
• The FEMA Urban Search and Rescue team is in Lahaina and is equipped to search the interior of burned structures. As of Friday morning Eastern time, the 55 people who had been found dead were all found outside of buildings in Maui because search and rescue teams were not equipped to go into buildings.
• Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra declared a public health emergency for Hawaii on Friday, retroactive to Tuesday, which gives health care providers “more flexibility” to aid people on Medicare and Medicaid, the agency said in a release.
• HHS’s Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response also deployed an initial team to aid emergency response efforts, the release said.
• The Hawaiian National Guard mobilized Chinook helicopters to help with fire suppression and search and rescue on Maui, according to a statement from President Joe Biden.
• Biden said the Coast Guard and Navy Third Fleet were also supporting response and rescue efforts.
• The Army provided Black Hawk Helicopters to fight fires on the island of Hawaii, according to Biden.
• Pentagon spokesman Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said Thursday that more than 100 National Guard personnel had been activated to respond to the fires. “As of this morning, the National Guard has activated 134 National Guard personnel, 99 from the Army National Guard and 35 from the Air National Guard, to assist with the Hawaii wildfire response,” Ryder said. “This includes liaison support to the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency, support to local law enforcement, and two Army National Guard CH-47 Chinook helicopters to support wildfire response operations and search and recovery teams.”
• Ryder added that three other helicopters from the 25th Combat Aviation Brigade had also been deployed to assist, in addition to two MH-60R Seahawk helicopters from the Navy Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 37.
• The Coast Guard has also rescued 14 people who had gone into the ocean to take shelter from the fire and smoke on Maui, Ryder said.
• The Department of Transportation worked with commercial airlines to evacuate tourists from Maui, Biden said.
• Biden’s statement also said the Department of Interior and Agriculture Department were on standby to provide assistance after the fire recovery efforts are completed.
• Biden’s federal disaster declaration Thursday made federal funding available. That funding includes grants for things like temporary housing and home repairs, low-interest loans to cover uninsured property losses and other programs for individuals and businesses, according to a FEMA news release.
• That news release also stated that the declaration would open up federal funding to the state and eligible local governments, as well as some nonprofit organizations, for debris removal and emergency protective measures in Maui County, on a cost-sharing basis.
• The declaration also makes federal funding available for hazard mitigation measures across the state, also on a cost-sharing basis, according to the news release.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/11/politics/federal-response-to-hawaii-wildfires/index.html

And that's two days ago. Probably even more resources there now.

 

[JackOfNoTrades]

Oh, so that's it then, all Biden has to do is approve disaster aid and off to another vacation.

Trump did that for Puerto Rico when Hurricane Maria hit and you people kept criticizing away.

So what? Actually, Trump went there for a photo op....and threw paper towels to the people. That's why he was criticized.

 

[mudwhistle]

 

[surada]

They need to at least know that this country has a leader, and this "leader" seems to be missing. He couldn't even make a public statement about the tragic event. All he could muster up was "No comment."

Where's Joe?

Do you realize 90 people are dead, the burn units are full and 1000 people are missing? What can you say about such tragedy?

 

[1srelluc]

Do you realize 90 people are dead, the burn units are full and 1000 people are missing? What can you say about such tragedy?

There is shit-all to do about the dead....They are dead....That's in the hands of morticians and insurance companies now.

The missing will be recovered or accounted for (or not) by and by.

I see this as no different than other tragedies that resulted in loss of life.....The question is what went South to cause it?

There seems like a near complete lack of emergency preparedness even though the conditions on the ground showed the area to be a tinderbox from drought, old construction, and poor land management. The fact is "quaint" burns.

 

[mudwhistle]

He is? What's all this then?

Here’s what we know the federal government has deployed to Hawaii in response to the wildfires so far:

• FEMA Administrator Deanne Criswell traveled to Maui on Friday. She said on Thursday that FEMA was providing meals for 5,000 people for five days.
• FEMA Region 9 Administrator Bob Fenton, who has been working from Oahu, mobilized an incident response team earlier this week to help with the federal response, a White House spokesperson told CNN.
• Fenton said on Thursday that cadaver dogs from California and Washington were being brought to Maui to help in recovery efforts in affected areas in Lahaina.
• The FEMA Urban Search and Rescue team is in Lahaina and is equipped to search the interior of burned structures. As of Friday morning Eastern time, the 55 people who had been found dead were all found outside of buildings in Maui because search and rescue teams were not equipped to go into buildings.
• Health and Human Services Secretary Xavier Becerra declared a public health emergency for Hawaii on Friday, retroactive to Tuesday, which gives health care providers “more flexibility” to aid people on Medicare and Medicaid, the agency said in a release.
• HHS’s Administration for Strategic Preparedness and Response also deployed an initial team to aid emergency response efforts, the release said.
• The Hawaiian National Guard mobilized Chinook helicopters to help with fire suppression and search and rescue on Maui, according to a statement from President Joe Biden.
• Biden said the Coast Guard and Navy Third Fleet were also supporting response and rescue efforts.
• The Army provided Black Hawk Helicopters to fight fires on the island of Hawaii, according to Biden.
• Pentagon spokesman Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder said Thursday that more than 100 National Guard personnel had been activated to respond to the fires. “As of this morning, the National Guard has activated 134 National Guard personnel, 99 from the Army National Guard and 35 from the Air National Guard, to assist with the Hawaii wildfire response,” Ryder said. “This includes liaison support to the Hawaii Emergency Management Agency, support to local law enforcement, and two Army National Guard CH-47 Chinook helicopters to support wildfire response operations and search and recovery teams.”
• Ryder added that three other helicopters from the 25th Combat Aviation Brigade had also been deployed to assist, in addition to two MH-60R Seahawk helicopters from the Navy Helicopter Maritime Strike Squadron 37.
• The Coast Guard has also rescued 14 people who had gone into the ocean to take shelter from the fire and smoke on Maui, Ryder said.
• The Department of Transportation worked with commercial airlines to evacuate tourists from Maui, Biden said.
• Biden’s statement also said the Department of Interior and Agriculture Department were on standby to provide assistance after the fire recovery efforts are completed.
• Biden’s federal disaster declaration Thursday made federal funding available. That funding includes grants for things like temporary housing and home repairs, low-interest loans to cover uninsured property losses and other programs for individuals and businesses, according to a FEMA news release.
• That news release also stated that the declaration would open up federal funding to the state and eligible local governments, as well as some nonprofit organizations, for debris removal and emergency protective measures in Maui County, on a cost-sharing basis.
• The declaration also makes federal funding available for hazard mitigation measures across the state, also on a cost-sharing basis, according to the news release.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/11/politics/federal-response-to-hawaii-wildfires/index.html

And that's two days ago. Probably even more resources there now.

But you don't want to listen to the response that locals are seeing on the ground.
You'd rather listen to the Biden Adm.