Biden Issues Indian Travel Ban A Year After Calling Trump’s China Travel Ban Xenophobic

Putsch Pussy Trump?

Are you in the 3rd grade?

That is childish
Just so you know---your ilk spends too much time with silly references to Biden,
so any non-complimentary reference to Trump is ok with me.
 
Who except you, gives a shit where the covid came from?
The left cares very much that china not be blamed for it
Good point. The left didn't want to follow the science, and wanted to ignore the grim reality of the Chinese Virus....so not to upset their masters in the Chinese Communist Party
Another brilliant uneducated and uninformed deduction from Struth about "grim" realities. Really??
you all supported the chinese travel ban? really? i don’t recall that
Let me refresh your memory about me. I support banning all countries until the covid is under control. I do not support Trump's reason for banning China because he was being vindictive and not productive.
The experts say it was productive...what was he being "vindictive" about? He was in the middle of working out a trade deal with China, one that benefited the USA....
Do the experts say that it was productive? Really? Trump was being vindictive due to China's negotiating tactics and their refusal to bend. He has shown that he is a vindictive guy. His tariffs did not benefit the USA. China made trade deals with some of our allies to their benefit, which gives them influence as our allies benefit. They are now competing favorably with us for world economic influence.
Inflation has taken root due to his trade wars and pandemic.
Yes the experts say it was productive: geez.....do you live under a rock?

Of course the tariffs ended up paying off...and no China didn't make other deals...in fact as a result we saw the largest Ag purchases in China-USA history because of them





Your post couldn't be more wrong...like it was a net zero on being right about anything

POOF!

Asia-Pacific Nations Sign Huge Trade Deal With China While ...



https://www.npr.org › 2020/11/17 › asia-pacific-allies-sig...
Nov 17, 2020 — China and 14 other countries have agreed to set up the trading bloc. ... RCEP unites China, Japan and South Korea in a trade deal for the first time ... RCEP arrives as the coronavirus pandemic is battering member countries' economies. ... and reduce already low tariffs among member countries over time.

Those countries are still going to make individual trade deals with the US that will not involve a super-sized court to impose foreign laws on this country

These trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.

Yes we were able to get the largest in US history Chinese deals for US products because Trump was tough on China....you are welcome

And you are paying 25% more for Chinese products and Canadian lumber, etc.
Our allies that Trump roughed up have moved toward China economically,
which serves to strengthen China's influence. Smooth move, ex-lax.
The price of American farm products is rising as much as 30% for Americans.


The tariffs with Canada have been lifted, after Trump was successful in getting rid of NAFTA and got a better deal...we are however paying a lot more of lumber since Xiden took office...all lumber

China's tariffs got us the historic purchases of American Ag...that's win....Xiden hasn't lifted them yet, because apparently they are working.

What allies?

You are correct for a change, but the tariffs were not reduced until December, 2020. They were not lifted. Canadian lumber is still expensive.
China's "historic" purchases of American agriculture have resulted in price increases of up to 30% for Americans due to a lack of productivity. Once again The blob did not consider the unintended consequences of his actions.
As far as your "what allies?" question, you should seriously consider researching the subjects that you flap about so that you get a feel for the big picture.

America is not the only country that is the target of chinese mercantilism

Australian farmers are feeling the wrath of china and you cant blame that on trump

What libs like you do not understand is that free trade with china under the guise of globalism is bad for America

"libs like me" understand that diplomacy gets you further than a kick in the ass.

Before Trump your “diplomatic” approach was greasing the skids of chinese expansion while destroying the American middle class

Trump's "tough guy, locked and loaded" approach got him nada, zilch, kaputsky,
niet.

now you are just trolling...it's been shown to you we got the largest ag purchases in US history from China because of it, and we also know, from your Dear Leader Xiden, that we got a better trade deal with Mexico and Canada because of it.

So just stop already
 
trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.
What trade deals?

Post a link to one

World's biggest trade deal signed by 15 countries—but China ...



https://fortune.com › china-free-trade-deal-asia-rcep
Nov 16, 2020 — 15 countries signed the world's biggest trade deal—but China is the ... Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. ... Still, the agreement is considered a geopolitical victory for China, since it ... Trump's protectionist withdrawal of the U.S. from global free trade agreements.

You need to do some research on your own instead of blindly following Trump's
rhetoric. This is only one of many articles about the Trump trade war follies.
Trump never analyzed the ramification of his knee-jerk decisions made by his "gut", as he put it. And he did not accept advice unless he liked it.
Did you read that link?

"Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. The new deal doesn’t cover state-owned enterprises, labor, or the environment, and it only briefly mentions controversial issues like intellectual property protections, meaning it will not result in any dramatic economic changes in the short term."

Why on Earth would we agree to anything like that with China?
 
Who except you, gives a shit where the covid came from?
The left cares very much that china not be blamed for it
Good point. The left didn't want to follow the science, and wanted to ignore the grim reality of the Chinese Virus....so not to upset their masters in the Chinese Communist Party
Another brilliant uneducated and uninformed deduction from Struth about "grim" realities. Really??
you all supported the chinese travel ban? really? i don’t recall that
Let me refresh your memory about me. I support banning all countries until the covid is under control. I do not support Trump's reason for banning China because he was being vindictive and not productive.
The experts say it was productive...what was he being "vindictive" about? He was in the middle of working out a trade deal with China, one that benefited the USA....
Do the experts say that it was productive? Really? Trump was being vindictive due to China's negotiating tactics and their refusal to bend. He has shown that he is a vindictive guy. His tariffs did not benefit the USA. China made trade deals with some of our allies to their benefit, which gives them influence as our allies benefit. They are now competing favorably with us for world economic influence.
Inflation has taken root due to his trade wars and pandemic.
Yes the experts say it was productive: geez.....do you live under a rock?

Of course the tariffs ended up paying off...and no China didn't make other deals...in fact as a result we saw the largest Ag purchases in China-USA history because of them





Your post couldn't be more wrong...like it was a net zero on being right about anything

POOF!

Asia-Pacific Nations Sign Huge Trade Deal With China While ...



https://www.npr.org › 2020/11/17 › asia-pacific-allies-sig...
Nov 17, 2020 — China and 14 other countries have agreed to set up the trading bloc. ... RCEP unites China, Japan and South Korea in a trade deal for the first time ... RCEP arrives as the coronavirus pandemic is battering member countries' economies. ... and reduce already low tariffs among member countries over time.

Those countries are still going to make individual trade deals with the US that will not involve a super-sized court to impose foreign laws on this country

These trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.

Yes we were able to get the largest in US history Chinese deals for US products because Trump was tough on China....you are welcome

And you are paying 25% more for Chinese products and Canadian lumber, etc.
Our allies that Trump roughed up have moved toward China economically,
which serves to strengthen China's influence. Smooth move, ex-lax.
The price of American farm products is rising as much as 30% for Americans.

Canada produces oil too and biden is push that product toward china instead of the US


The Chinese already own a significant share of Canadian oil production.

what's your point? That's ok to let them have more? I don't grasp that logic.


LOLOL I realize you don't understand about the refineries in the free trade zone.

I think you mean Foreign Trade Zones...and the only thing is except there is state and local taxes, and it deal with tanigable personal property.
 
Tariffs have not worked in the past and they are responsible for our price increases now along with the pandemic.
Tariffs are the only tool that can save American jobs

After we lowered tariffs on china millions of American jobs went to china

Consumers pay the tariffs. Brazil is thrilled to have captured the whole Chinese soybean market from the US.
Your first point is true...I love how libs became woke to the idea that corps pass taxes on to consumers...but seem to forget that when it comes to Corp income tax..

Good for Brazil...I was thrilled that the US Farmers were able to sell a record amount of soybean to China in 2020 thanks to Trump being tough on China


China to purchase record amount of U.S. soybeans in 2020​


Brazil is thrilled to have captured the whole Chinese soybean market from the US.
I bet you are as lib that constantly complains about farm subsidies which are connected to soybean exports also

You cant have it both ways


If US farmers have not export market for soybeans that they dont need soybean subsidies

Soybeans are a world staple and china is one of many countries that cannot feed itself

If they dont want our soybeans someone else does

And if no one does then we save taxpayers a lot of money in subsidies

American Soybean Farmers Crushed by US-China Trade War ...


Nov 13, 2019 · American farmers, particularly soybean farmers, have been whacked by the US-China trade war. Soybeans were a huge export from the US to China, but tariffs were imposed by Beijing on …
and the next year....2020? Please...tell us....thanks to the amazing job of Trump soybean purchases were up a record 53%...and they were expected to continue to buy record amounts:
 
Who except you, gives a shit where the covid came from?
The left cares very much that china not be blamed for it
Good point. The left didn't want to follow the science, and wanted to ignore the grim reality of the Chinese Virus....so not to upset their masters in the Chinese Communist Party
Another brilliant uneducated and uninformed deduction from Struth about "grim" realities. Really??
you all supported the chinese travel ban? really? i don’t recall that
Let me refresh your memory about me. I support banning all countries until the covid is under control. I do not support Trump's reason for banning China because he was being vindictive and not productive.
The experts say it was productive...what was he being "vindictive" about? He was in the middle of working out a trade deal with China, one that benefited the USA....
Do the experts say that it was productive? Really? Trump was being vindictive due to China's negotiating tactics and their refusal to bend. He has shown that he is a vindictive guy. His tariffs did not benefit the USA. China made trade deals with some of our allies to their benefit, which gives them influence as our allies benefit. They are now competing favorably with us for world economic influence.
Inflation has taken root due to his trade wars and pandemic.
Yes the experts say it was productive: geez.....do you live under a rock?

Of course the tariffs ended up paying off...and no China didn't make other deals...in fact as a result we saw the largest Ag purchases in China-USA history because of them





Your post couldn't be more wrong...like it was a net zero on being right about anything

POOF!

Asia-Pacific Nations Sign Huge Trade Deal With China While ...



https://www.npr.org › 2020/11/17 › asia-pacific-allies-sig...
Nov 17, 2020 — China and 14 other countries have agreed to set up the trading bloc. ... RCEP unites China, Japan and South Korea in a trade deal for the first time ... RCEP arrives as the coronavirus pandemic is battering member countries' economies. ... and reduce already low tariffs among member countries over time.

Those countries are still going to make individual trade deals with the US that will not involve a super-sized court to impose foreign laws on this country

These trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.

Yes we were able to get the largest in US history Chinese deals for US products because Trump was tough on China....you are welcome

And you are paying 25% more for Chinese products and Canadian lumber, etc.
Our allies that Trump roughed up have moved toward China economically,
which serves to strengthen China's influence. Smooth move, ex-lax.
The price of American farm products is rising as much as 30% for Americans.


The tariffs with Canada have been lifted, after Trump was successful in getting rid of NAFTA and got a better deal...we are however paying a lot more of lumber since Xiden took office...all lumber

China's tariffs got us the historic purchases of American Ag...that's win....Xiden hasn't lifted them yet, because apparently they are working.

What allies?

You are correct for a change, but the tariffs were not reduced until December, 2020. They were not lifted. Canadian lumber is still expensive.
China's "historic" purchases of American agriculture have resulted in price increases of up to 30% for Americans due to a lack of productivity. Once again The blob did not consider the unintended consequences of his actions.
As far as your "what allies?" question, you should seriously consider researching the subjects that you flap about so that you get a feel for the big picture.

America is not the only country that is the target of chinese mercantilism

Australian farmers are feeling the wrath of china and you cant blame that on trump

What libs like you do not understand is that free trade with china under the guise of globalism is bad for America

"libs like me" understand that diplomacy gets you further than a kick in the ass.

Before Trump your “diplomatic” approach was greasing the skids of chinese expansion while destroying the American middle class

Trump's "tough guy, locked and loaded" approach got him nada, zilch, kaputsky,
niet.

now you are just trolling...it's been shown to you we got the largest ag purchases in US history from China because of it, and we also know, from your Dear Leader Xiden, that we got a better trade deal with Mexico and Canada because of it.

So just stop already

No, Lambchop. I said that because China has bought all farm products that are available. There is now a shortage of farm products, resulting in a 30% increase in prices for Americans buying those products. Many on this site acknowledge an increase in prices at the supermarket level, and I gave you the reason. Again, do some research before flapping in the breeze. This is an unintended consequence of the blob's lack of experience in foreign affairs and reliance on his "gut" too much rather than advice from experts. The blob did not know what he did not know. He just used his "gut". We finally have a leader who "walks softly and carries a big stick". Very necessary in this day and age rather than the "locked and loaded", bull in a china shop approach.
 
trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.
What trade deals?

Post a link to one

World's biggest trade deal signed by 15 countries—but China ...



https://fortune.com › china-free-trade-deal-asia-rcep
Nov 16, 2020 — 15 countries signed the world's biggest trade deal—but China is the ... Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. ... Still, the agreement is considered a geopolitical victory for China, since it ... Trump's protectionist withdrawal of the U.S. from global free trade agreements.

You need to do some research on your own instead of blindly following Trump's
rhetoric. This is only one of many articles about the Trump trade war follies.
Trump never analyzed the ramification of his knee-jerk decisions made by his "gut", as he put it. And he did not accept advice unless he liked it.
Did you read that link?

"Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. The new deal doesn’t cover state-owned enterprises, labor, or the environment, and it only briefly mentions controversial issues like intellectual property protections, meaning it will not result in any dramatic economic changes in the short term."

Why on Earth would we agree to anything like that with China?
You are taking out of context. Look at the whole enchilada.
I can find more articles for you since you are unable to do it yourself, but why bother. The fact is that we lost the trade war and China is expanding its horizons
as it challenges us as a major influence in world economic affairs. Biden has said that we must defeat them economically and that is accomplished peacefully and without threats.
 
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Who except you, gives a shit where the covid came from?
The left cares very much that china not be blamed for it
Good point. The left didn't want to follow the science, and wanted to ignore the grim reality of the Chinese Virus....so not to upset their masters in the Chinese Communist Party
Another brilliant uneducated and uninformed deduction from Struth about "grim" realities. Really??
you all supported the chinese travel ban? really? i don’t recall that
Let me refresh your memory about me. I support banning all countries until the covid is under control. I do not support Trump's reason for banning China because he was being vindictive and not productive.
The experts say it was productive...what was he being "vindictive" about? He was in the middle of working out a trade deal with China, one that benefited the USA....
Do the experts say that it was productive? Really? Trump was being vindictive due to China's negotiating tactics and their refusal to bend. He has shown that he is a vindictive guy. His tariffs did not benefit the USA. China made trade deals with some of our allies to their benefit, which gives them influence as our allies benefit. They are now competing favorably with us for world economic influence.
Inflation has taken root due to his trade wars and pandemic.
Yes the experts say it was productive: geez.....do you live under a rock?

Of course the tariffs ended up paying off...and no China didn't make other deals...in fact as a result we saw the largest Ag purchases in China-USA history because of them





Your post couldn't be more wrong...like it was a net zero on being right about anything

POOF!

Asia-Pacific Nations Sign Huge Trade Deal With China While ...



https://www.npr.org › 2020/11/17 › asia-pacific-allies-sig...
Nov 17, 2020 — China and 14 other countries have agreed to set up the trading bloc. ... RCEP unites China, Japan and South Korea in a trade deal for the first time ... RCEP arrives as the coronavirus pandemic is battering member countries' economies. ... and reduce already low tariffs among member countries over time.

Those countries are still going to make individual trade deals with the US that will not involve a super-sized court to impose foreign laws on this country

These trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.

Yes we were able to get the largest in US history Chinese deals for US products because Trump was tough on China....you are welcome

And you are paying 25% more for Chinese products and Canadian lumber, etc.
Our allies that Trump roughed up have moved toward China economically,
which serves to strengthen China's influence. Smooth move, ex-lax.
The price of American farm products is rising as much as 30% for Americans.

Canada produces oil too and biden is push that product toward china instead of the US


The Chinese already own a significant share of Canadian oil production.

what's your point? That's ok to let them have more? I don't grasp that logic.


LOLOL I realize you don't understand about the refineries in the free trade zone.

I think you mean Foreign Trade Zones...and the only thing is except there is state and local taxes, and it deal with tanigable personal property.


If you ship oil frm Canada to refineries in Free Trade Zones and then directly overseas the US government gets no taxes. Its good for Canada and their Chinese investors.
 
Who except you, gives a shit where the covid came from?
The left cares very much that china not be blamed for it
Good point. The left didn't want to follow the science, and wanted to ignore the grim reality of the Chinese Virus....so not to upset their masters in the Chinese Communist Party
Another brilliant uneducated and uninformed deduction from Struth about "grim" realities. Really??
you all supported the chinese travel ban? really? i don’t recall that
Let me refresh your memory about me. I support banning all countries until the covid is under control. I do not support Trump's reason for banning China because he was being vindictive and not productive.
The experts say it was productive...what was he being "vindictive" about? He was in the middle of working out a trade deal with China, one that benefited the USA....
Do the experts say that it was productive? Really? Trump was being vindictive due to China's negotiating tactics and their refusal to bend. He has shown that he is a vindictive guy. His tariffs did not benefit the USA. China made trade deals with some of our allies to their benefit, which gives them influence as our allies benefit. They are now competing favorably with us for world economic influence.
Inflation has taken root due to his trade wars and pandemic.
Yes the experts say it was productive: geez.....do you live under a rock?

Of course the tariffs ended up paying off...and no China didn't make other deals...in fact as a result we saw the largest Ag purchases in China-USA history because of them





Your post couldn't be more wrong...like it was a net zero on being right about anything

POOF!

Asia-Pacific Nations Sign Huge Trade Deal With China While ...



https://www.npr.org › 2020/11/17 › asia-pacific-allies-sig...
Nov 17, 2020 — China and 14 other countries have agreed to set up the trading bloc. ... RCEP unites China, Japan and South Korea in a trade deal for the first time ... RCEP arrives as the coronavirus pandemic is battering member countries' economies. ... and reduce already low tariffs among member countries over time.

Those countries are still going to make individual trade deals with the US that will not involve a super-sized court to impose foreign laws on this country

These trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.

Yes we were able to get the largest in US history Chinese deals for US products because Trump was tough on China....you are welcome

And you are paying 25% more for Chinese products and Canadian lumber, etc.
Our allies that Trump roughed up have moved toward China economically,
which serves to strengthen China's influence. Smooth move, ex-lax.
The price of American farm products is rising as much as 30% for Americans.


The tariffs with Canada have been lifted, after Trump was successful in getting rid of NAFTA and got a better deal...we are however paying a lot more of lumber since Xiden took office...all lumber

China's tariffs got us the historic purchases of American Ag...that's win....Xiden hasn't lifted them yet, because apparently they are working.

What allies?

You are correct for a change, but the tariffs were not reduced until December, 2020. They were not lifted. Canadian lumber is still expensive.
China's "historic" purchases of American agriculture have resulted in price increases of up to 30% for Americans due to a lack of productivity. Once again The blob did not consider the unintended consequences of his actions.
As far as your "what allies?" question, you should seriously consider researching the subjects that you flap about so that you get a feel for the big picture.

America is not the only country that is the target of chinese mercantilism

Australian farmers are feeling the wrath of china and you cant blame that on trump

What libs like you do not understand is that free trade with china under the guise of globalism is bad for America

"libs like me" understand that diplomacy gets you further than a kick in the ass.

Before Trump your “diplomatic” approach was greasing the skids of chinese expansion while destroying the American middle class

Trump's "tough guy, locked and loaded" approach got him nada, zilch, kaputsky,
niet.

now you are just trolling...it's been shown to you we got the largest ag purchases in US history from China because of it, and we also know, from your Dear Leader Xiden, that we got a better trade deal with Mexico and Canada because of it.

So just stop already

No, Lambchop. I said that because China has bought all farm products that are available. There is now a shortage of farm products, resulting in a 30% increase in prices for Americans buying those products. Many on this site acknowledge an increase in prices at the supermarket level, and I gave you the reason. Again, do some research before flapping in the breeze. This is an unintended consequence of the blob's lack of experience in foreign affairs and reliance on his "gut" too much rather than advice from experts. The blob did not know what he did not know. He just used his "gut". We finally have a leader who "walks softly and carries a big stick". Very necessary in this day and age rather than the "locked and loaded", bull in a china shop approach.

hahaha

ok first it was Trump screwed things up with China...then it was highlighted that actually because of his tough dealings with China we ended up with the largest purchases ever....now it's well they bought everything and now we have a shortage, and therefore that's why the cost of food has gone up....hahahah

I get it...you are fishing and trolling.

The cost of food is rising this year due to a few things...
1) the china virus and lockdowns....there were less people working and food processing plants
2) transportation due to lockdowns was slown down
3) More demand at the grocery store...people were eating more at home..thus the market respond to the demand
4) Xiden and the Dems winning, and producers planning for higher taxes.

Supply isn't an issue...farmers literally had to throw things away due to the Chinese Virus.
 
trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.
What trade deals?

Post a link to one

World's biggest trade deal signed by 15 countries—but China ...



https://fortune.com › china-free-trade-deal-asia-rcep
Nov 16, 2020 — 15 countries signed the world's biggest trade deal—but China is the ... Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. ... Still, the agreement is considered a geopolitical victory for China, since it ... Trump's protectionist withdrawal of the U.S. from global free trade agreements.

You need to do some research on your own instead of blindly following Trump's
rhetoric. This is only one of many articles about the Trump trade war follies.
Trump never analyzed the ramification of his knee-jerk decisions made by his "gut", as he put it. And he did not accept advice unless he liked it.
Did you read that link?

"Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. The new deal doesn’t cover state-owned enterprises, labor, or the environment, and it only briefly mentions controversial issues like intellectual property protections, meaning it will not result in any dramatic economic changes in the short term."

Why on Earth would we agree to anything like that with China?
You are taking out of context. Look at the whole enchilada.
what was out of context? Why would we agree to some sort of deal with China that didn't address those things?

I am sure Trump could have jumped all over that sort of deal that screwed Americans and benefitted China...but why would we? That's and Obama/Xiden sort of TPP tactic...
 
Who except you, gives a shit where the covid came from?
The left cares very much that china not be blamed for it
Good point. The left didn't want to follow the science, and wanted to ignore the grim reality of the Chinese Virus....so not to upset their masters in the Chinese Communist Party
Another brilliant uneducated and uninformed deduction from Struth about "grim" realities. Really??
you all supported the chinese travel ban? really? i don’t recall that
Let me refresh your memory about me. I support banning all countries until the covid is under control. I do not support Trump's reason for banning China because he was being vindictive and not productive.
The experts say it was productive...what was he being "vindictive" about? He was in the middle of working out a trade deal with China, one that benefited the USA....
Do the experts say that it was productive? Really? Trump was being vindictive due to China's negotiating tactics and their refusal to bend. He has shown that he is a vindictive guy. His tariffs did not benefit the USA. China made trade deals with some of our allies to their benefit, which gives them influence as our allies benefit. They are now competing favorably with us for world economic influence.
Inflation has taken root due to his trade wars and pandemic.
Yes the experts say it was productive: geez.....do you live under a rock?

Of course the tariffs ended up paying off...and no China didn't make other deals...in fact as a result we saw the largest Ag purchases in China-USA history because of them





Your post couldn't be more wrong...like it was a net zero on being right about anything

POOF!

Asia-Pacific Nations Sign Huge Trade Deal With China While ...



https://www.npr.org › 2020/11/17 › asia-pacific-allies-sig...
Nov 17, 2020 — China and 14 other countries have agreed to set up the trading bloc. ... RCEP unites China, Japan and South Korea in a trade deal for the first time ... RCEP arrives as the coronavirus pandemic is battering member countries' economies. ... and reduce already low tariffs among member countries over time.

Those countries are still going to make individual trade deals with the US that will not involve a super-sized court to impose foreign laws on this country

These trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.

Yes we were able to get the largest in US history Chinese deals for US products because Trump was tough on China....you are welcome

And you are paying 25% more for Chinese products and Canadian lumber, etc.
Our allies that Trump roughed up have moved toward China economically,
which serves to strengthen China's influence. Smooth move, ex-lax.
The price of American farm products is rising as much as 30% for Americans.


The tariffs with Canada have been lifted, after Trump was successful in getting rid of NAFTA and got a better deal...we are however paying a lot more of lumber since Xiden took office...all lumber

China's tariffs got us the historic purchases of American Ag...that's win....Xiden hasn't lifted them yet, because apparently they are working.

What allies?

You are correct for a change, but the tariffs were not reduced until December, 2020. They were not lifted. Canadian lumber is still expensive.
China's "historic" purchases of American agriculture have resulted in price increases of up to 30% for Americans due to a lack of productivity. Once again The blob did not consider the unintended consequences of his actions.
As far as your "what allies?" question, you should seriously consider researching the subjects that you flap about so that you get a feel for the big picture.

America is not the only country that is the target of chinese mercantilism

Australian farmers are feeling the wrath of china and you cant blame that on trump

What libs like you do not understand is that free trade with china under the guise of globalism is bad for America

"libs like me" understand that diplomacy gets you further than a kick in the ass.

Before Trump your “diplomatic” approach was greasing the skids of chinese expansion while destroying the American middle class

Trump's "tough guy, locked and loaded" approach got him nada, zilch, kaputsky,
niet.

now you are just trolling...it's been shown to you we got the largest ag purchases in US history from China because of it, and we also know, from your Dear Leader Xiden, that we got a better trade deal with Mexico and Canada because of it.

So just stop already

No, Lambchop. I said that because China has bought all farm products that are available. There is now a shortage of farm products, resulting in a 30% increase in prices for Americans buying those products. Many on this site acknowledge an increase in prices at the supermarket level, and I gave you the reason. Again, do some research before flapping in the breeze. This is an unintended consequence of the blob's lack of experience in foreign affairs and reliance on his "gut" too much rather than advice from experts. The blob did not know what he did not know. He just used his "gut". We finally have a leader who "walks softly and carries a big stick". Very necessary in this day and age rather than the "locked and loaded", bull in a china shop approach.

hahaha

ok first it was Trump screwed things up with China...then it was highlighted that actually because of his tough dealings with China we ended up with the largest purchases ever....now it's well they bought everything and now we have a shortage, and therefore that's why the cost of food has gone up....hahahah

I get it...you are fishing and trolling.

The cost of food is rising this year due to a few things...
1) the china virus and lockdowns....there were less people working and food processing plants
2) transportation due to lockdowns was slown down
3) More demand at the grocery store...people were eating more at home..thus the market respond to the demand
4) Xiden and the Dems winning, and producers planning for higher taxes.

Supply isn't an issue...farmers literally had to throw things away due to the Chinese Virus.

You have no clue.
 
All of these countries have discovered another outlet for their products and will use that outlet to their advantage. We are no longer the leader.
We’ll see

What they may discover is what a cruel master china will be

Because its impossible to do business with china on fair or equal terms
Impossible? There is no master here. Trump thought he was the master and he was out of his league.
Ok bob.

Your TDS is blinding you to the real threat which is china

They do intend to become your master
 
trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.
What trade deals?

Post a link to one

World's biggest trade deal signed by 15 countries—but China ...



https://fortune.com › china-free-trade-deal-asia-rcep
Nov 16, 2020 — 15 countries signed the world's biggest trade deal—but China is the ... Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. ... Still, the agreement is considered a geopolitical victory for China, since it ... Trump's protectionist withdrawal of the U.S. from global free trade agreements.

You need to do some research on your own instead of blindly following Trump's
rhetoric. This is only one of many articles about the Trump trade war follies.
Trump never analyzed the ramification of his knee-jerk decisions made by his "gut", as he put it. And he did not accept advice unless he liked it.
Did you read that link?

"Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. The new deal doesn’t cover state-owned enterprises, labor, or the environment, and it only briefly mentions controversial issues like intellectual property protections, meaning it will not result in any dramatic economic changes in the short term."

Why on Earth would we agree to anything like that with China?
You are taking out of context. Look at the whole enchilada.
what was out of context? Why would we agree to some sort of deal with China that didn't address those things?

I am sure Trump could have jumped all over that sort of deal that screwed Americans and benefitted China...but why would we? That's and Obama/Xiden sort of TPP tactic...
Struth, sometimes your rhetoric is so stupid that it makes stupid people look smart.
 
Who except you, gives a shit where the covid came from?
The left cares very much that china not be blamed for it
Good point. The left didn't want to follow the science, and wanted to ignore the grim reality of the Chinese Virus....so not to upset their masters in the Chinese Communist Party
Another brilliant uneducated and uninformed deduction from Struth about "grim" realities. Really??
you all supported the chinese travel ban? really? i don’t recall that
Let me refresh your memory about me. I support banning all countries until the covid is under control. I do not support Trump's reason for banning China because he was being vindictive and not productive.
The experts say it was productive...what was he being "vindictive" about? He was in the middle of working out a trade deal with China, one that benefited the USA....
Do the experts say that it was productive? Really? Trump was being vindictive due to China's negotiating tactics and their refusal to bend. He has shown that he is a vindictive guy. His tariffs did not benefit the USA. China made trade deals with some of our allies to their benefit, which gives them influence as our allies benefit. They are now competing favorably with us for world economic influence.
Inflation has taken root due to his trade wars and pandemic.
Yes the experts say it was productive: geez.....do you live under a rock?

Of course the tariffs ended up paying off...and no China didn't make other deals...in fact as a result we saw the largest Ag purchases in China-USA history because of them





Your post couldn't be more wrong...like it was a net zero on being right about anything

POOF!

Asia-Pacific Nations Sign Huge Trade Deal With China While ...



https://www.npr.org › 2020/11/17 › asia-pacific-allies-sig...
Nov 17, 2020 — China and 14 other countries have agreed to set up the trading bloc. ... RCEP unites China, Japan and South Korea in a trade deal for the first time ... RCEP arrives as the coronavirus pandemic is battering member countries' economies. ... and reduce already low tariffs among member countries over time.

Those countries are still going to make individual trade deals with the US that will not involve a super-sized court to impose foreign laws on this country

These trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.

Yes we were able to get the largest in US history Chinese deals for US products because Trump was tough on China....you are welcome

And you are paying 25% more for Chinese products and Canadian lumber, etc.
Our allies that Trump roughed up have moved toward China economically,
which serves to strengthen China's influence. Smooth move, ex-lax.
The price of American farm products is rising as much as 30% for Americans.

Canada produces oil too and biden is push that product toward china instead of the US


The Chinese already own a significant share of Canadian oil production.

what's your point? That's ok to let them have more? I don't grasp that logic.


LOLOL I realize you don't understand about the refineries in the free trade zone.

I think you mean Foreign Trade Zones...and the only thing is except there is state and local taxes, and it deal with tanigable personal property.


If you ship oil frm Canada to refineries in Free Trade Zones and then directly overseas the US government gets no taxes. Its good for Canada and their Chinese investors.

1) the refinaries pay taxes
2) the employees pay taxes
3) there are more benefits to trade then just how much money the Federal Govt gets directly in taxes. I know that's a hard concept to grasp
 
Who except you, gives a shit where the covid came from?
The left cares very much that china not be blamed for it
Good point. The left didn't want to follow the science, and wanted to ignore the grim reality of the Chinese Virus....so not to upset their masters in the Chinese Communist Party
Another brilliant uneducated and uninformed deduction from Struth about "grim" realities. Really??
you all supported the chinese travel ban? really? i don’t recall that
Let me refresh your memory about me. I support banning all countries until the covid is under control. I do not support Trump's reason for banning China because he was being vindictive and not productive.
The experts say it was productive...what was he being "vindictive" about? He was in the middle of working out a trade deal with China, one that benefited the USA....
Do the experts say that it was productive? Really? Trump was being vindictive due to China's negotiating tactics and their refusal to bend. He has shown that he is a vindictive guy. His tariffs did not benefit the USA. China made trade deals with some of our allies to their benefit, which gives them influence as our allies benefit. They are now competing favorably with us for world economic influence.
Inflation has taken root due to his trade wars and pandemic.
Yes the experts say it was productive: geez.....do you live under a rock?

Of course the tariffs ended up paying off...and no China didn't make other deals...in fact as a result we saw the largest Ag purchases in China-USA history because of them





Your post couldn't be more wrong...like it was a net zero on being right about anything

POOF!

Asia-Pacific Nations Sign Huge Trade Deal With China While ...



https://www.npr.org › 2020/11/17 › asia-pacific-allies-sig...
Nov 17, 2020 — China and 14 other countries have agreed to set up the trading bloc. ... RCEP unites China, Japan and South Korea in a trade deal for the first time ... RCEP arrives as the coronavirus pandemic is battering member countries' economies. ... and reduce already low tariffs among member countries over time.

Those countries are still going to make individual trade deals with the US that will not involve a super-sized court to impose foreign laws on this country

These trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.

Yes we were able to get the largest in US history Chinese deals for US products because Trump was tough on China....you are welcome

And you are paying 25% more for Chinese products and Canadian lumber, etc.
Our allies that Trump roughed up have moved toward China economically,
which serves to strengthen China's influence. Smooth move, ex-lax.
The price of American farm products is rising as much as 30% for Americans.


The tariffs with Canada have been lifted, after Trump was successful in getting rid of NAFTA and got a better deal...we are however paying a lot more of lumber since Xiden took office...all lumber

China's tariffs got us the historic purchases of American Ag...that's win....Xiden hasn't lifted them yet, because apparently they are working.

What allies?

You are correct for a change, but the tariffs were not reduced until December, 2020. They were not lifted. Canadian lumber is still expensive.
China's "historic" purchases of American agriculture have resulted in price increases of up to 30% for Americans due to a lack of productivity. Once again The blob did not consider the unintended consequences of his actions.
As far as your "what allies?" question, you should seriously consider researching the subjects that you flap about so that you get a feel for the big picture.

America is not the only country that is the target of chinese mercantilism

Australian farmers are feeling the wrath of china and you cant blame that on trump

What libs like you do not understand is that free trade with china under the guise of globalism is bad for America

"libs like me" understand that diplomacy gets you further than a kick in the ass.

Before Trump your “diplomatic” approach was greasing the skids of chinese expansion while destroying the American middle class

Trump's "tough guy, locked and loaded" approach got him nada, zilch, kaputsky,
niet.

now you are just trolling...it's been shown to you we got the largest ag purchases in US history from China because of it, and we also know, from your Dear Leader Xiden, that we got a better trade deal with Mexico and Canada because of it.

So just stop already

No, Lambchop. I said that because China has bought all farm products that are available. There is now a shortage of farm products, resulting in a 30% increase in prices for Americans buying those products. Many on this site acknowledge an increase in prices at the supermarket level, and I gave you the reason. Again, do some research before flapping in the breeze. This is an unintended consequence of the blob's lack of experience in foreign affairs and reliance on his "gut" too much rather than advice from experts. The blob did not know what he did not know. He just used his "gut". We finally have a leader who "walks softly and carries a big stick". Very necessary in this day and age rather than the "locked and loaded", bull in a china shop approach.

hahaha

ok first it was Trump screwed things up with China...then it was highlighted that actually because of his tough dealings with China we ended up with the largest purchases ever....now it's well they bought everything and now we have a shortage, and therefore that's why the cost of food has gone up....hahahah

I get it...you are fishing and trolling.

The cost of food is rising this year due to a few things...
1) the china virus and lockdowns....there were less people working and food processing plants
2) transportation due to lockdowns was slown down
3) More demand at the grocery store...people were eating more at home..thus the market respond to the demand
4) Xiden and the Dems winning, and producers planning for higher taxes.

Supply isn't an issue...farmers literally had to throw things away due to the Chinese Virus.

You have no clue.

no, it's pretty obvious you are trolling....and grasping at straws
 
All of these countries have discovered another outlet for their products and will use that outlet to their advantage. We are no longer the leader.
We’ll see

What they may discover is what a cruel master china will be

Because its impossible to do business with china on fair or equal terms
Impossible? There is no master here. Trump thought he was the master and he was out of his league.
Ok bob.

Your TDS is blinding you to the real threat which is china

They do intend to become your master
Of course, I know that China is an economic threat and I support diplomacy rather than the bull in a china shop approach.
 
trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.
What trade deals?

Post a link to one

World's biggest trade deal signed by 15 countries—but China ...



https://fortune.com › china-free-trade-deal-asia-rcep
Nov 16, 2020 — 15 countries signed the world's biggest trade deal—but China is the ... Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. ... Still, the agreement is considered a geopolitical victory for China, since it ... Trump's protectionist withdrawal of the U.S. from global free trade agreements.

You need to do some research on your own instead of blindly following Trump's
rhetoric. This is only one of many articles about the Trump trade war follies.
Trump never analyzed the ramification of his knee-jerk decisions made by his "gut", as he put it. And he did not accept advice unless he liked it.
Did you read that link?

"Many RCEP constituents already have trade agreements with one another. The new deal doesn’t cover state-owned enterprises, labor, or the environment, and it only briefly mentions controversial issues like intellectual property protections, meaning it will not result in any dramatic economic changes in the short term."

Why on Earth would we agree to anything like that with China?
You are taking out of context. Look at the whole enchilada.
what was out of context? Why would we agree to some sort of deal with China that didn't address those things?

I am sure Trump could have jumped all over that sort of deal that screwed Americans and benefitted China...but why would we? That's and Obama/Xiden sort of TPP tactic...
Struth, sometimes your rhetoric is so stupid that it makes stupid people look smart.
says the clown that wants a trade deal with China that doesn't address things like the enviroment, their human rights abuses, unfair labor practices and stealing of IP....and exempts all their freakin' state owned companies! hahahh
 
Just so you know---your ilk spends too much time with silly references to Biden,
I try to limit my silly references to biden

Having been on both sides of the fence through several presidents I dont think it serves any useful purpose
 
Who except you, gives a shit where the covid came from?
The left cares very much that china not be blamed for it
Good point. The left didn't want to follow the science, and wanted to ignore the grim reality of the Chinese Virus....so not to upset their masters in the Chinese Communist Party
Another brilliant uneducated and uninformed deduction from Struth about "grim" realities. Really??
you all supported the chinese travel ban? really? i don’t recall that
Let me refresh your memory about me. I support banning all countries until the covid is under control. I do not support Trump's reason for banning China because he was being vindictive and not productive.
The experts say it was productive...what was he being "vindictive" about? He was in the middle of working out a trade deal with China, one that benefited the USA....
Do the experts say that it was productive? Really? Trump was being vindictive due to China's negotiating tactics and their refusal to bend. He has shown that he is a vindictive guy. His tariffs did not benefit the USA. China made trade deals with some of our allies to their benefit, which gives them influence as our allies benefit. They are now competing favorably with us for world economic influence.
Inflation has taken root due to his trade wars and pandemic.
Yes the experts say it was productive: geez.....do you live under a rock?

Of course the tariffs ended up paying off...and no China didn't make other deals...in fact as a result we saw the largest Ag purchases in China-USA history because of them





Your post couldn't be more wrong...like it was a net zero on being right about anything

POOF!

Asia-Pacific Nations Sign Huge Trade Deal With China While ...



https://www.npr.org › 2020/11/17 › asia-pacific-allies-sig...
Nov 17, 2020 — China and 14 other countries have agreed to set up the trading bloc. ... RCEP unites China, Japan and South Korea in a trade deal for the first time ... RCEP arrives as the coronavirus pandemic is battering member countries' economies. ... and reduce already low tariffs among member countries over time.

Those countries are still going to make individual trade deals with the US that will not involve a super-sized court to impose foreign laws on this country

These trade deals were made with China et. al due to Trump's bullying tactics.

Yes we were able to get the largest in US history Chinese deals for US products because Trump was tough on China....you are welcome

And you are paying 25% more for Chinese products and Canadian lumber, etc.
Our allies that Trump roughed up have moved toward China economically,
which serves to strengthen China's influence. Smooth move, ex-lax.
The price of American farm products is rising as much as 30% for Americans.


The tariffs with Canada have been lifted, after Trump was successful in getting rid of NAFTA and got a better deal...we are however paying a lot more of lumber since Xiden took office...all lumber

China's tariffs got us the historic purchases of American Ag...that's win....Xiden hasn't lifted them yet, because apparently they are working.

What allies?

You are correct for a change, but the tariffs were not reduced until December, 2020. They were not lifted. Canadian lumber is still expensive.
China's "historic" purchases of American agriculture have resulted in price increases of up to 30% for Americans due to a lack of productivity. Once again The blob did not consider the unintended consequences of his actions.
As far as your "what allies?" question, you should seriously consider researching the subjects that you flap about so that you get a feel for the big picture.

America is not the only country that is the target of chinese mercantilism

Australian farmers are feeling the wrath of china and you cant blame that on trump

What libs like you do not understand is that free trade with china under the guise of globalism is bad for America

"libs like me" understand that diplomacy gets you further than a kick in the ass.

Before Trump your “diplomatic” approach was greasing the skids of chinese expansion while destroying the American middle class

Trump's "tough guy, locked and loaded" approach got him nada, zilch, kaputsky,
niet.

now you are just trolling...it's been shown to you we got the largest ag purchases in US history from China because of it, and we also know, from your Dear Leader Xiden, that we got a better trade deal with Mexico and Canada because of it.

So just stop already

No, Lambchop. I said that because China has bought all farm products that are available. There is now a shortage of farm products, resulting in a 30% increase in prices for Americans buying those products. Many on this site acknowledge an increase in prices at the supermarket level, and I gave you the reason. Again, do some research before flapping in the breeze. This is an unintended consequence of the blob's lack of experience in foreign affairs and reliance on his "gut" too much rather than advice from experts. The blob did not know what he did not know. He just used his "gut". We finally have a leader who "walks softly and carries a big stick". Very necessary in this day and age rather than the "locked and loaded", bull in a china shop approach.

hahaha

ok first it was Trump screwed things up with China...then it was highlighted that actually because of his tough dealings with China we ended up with the largest purchases ever....now it's well they bought everything and now we have a shortage, and therefore that's why the cost of food has gone up....hahahah

I get it...you are fishing and trolling.

The cost of food is rising this year due to a few things...
1) the china virus and lockdowns....there were less people working and food processing plants
2) transportation due to lockdowns was slown down
3) More demand at the grocery store...people were eating more at home..thus the market respond to the demand
4) Xiden and the Dems winning, and producers planning for higher taxes.

Supply isn't an issue...farmers literally had to throw things away due to the Chinese Virus.


Trump liked to shoot from the hip.. He rarely (or never) knew anything about the subject.

India is in the throws of a horrible Covid surge.

 
All of these countries have discovered another outlet for their products and will use that outlet to their advantage. We are no longer the leader.
We’ll see

What they may discover is what a cruel master china will be

Because its impossible to do business with china on fair or equal terms
Impossible? There is no master here. Trump thought he was the master and he was out of his league.
Ok bob.

Your TDS is blinding you to the real threat which is china

They do intend to become your master
Of course, I know that China is an economic threat and I support diplomacy rather than the bull in a china shop approach.
No you don't...you just provided us with an example of a trade deal that China got with other nations....a horrible deal....that's the sort of thing you apparently support. That's bending over backwards and taking it up the butt from China...like Xiden and Obama did with the TPP.

The Trump Admin actually used diplomatic measures, and the tools we had available to leverage China and got record deals.

When that was highlighted to you...you then turned around and blamed Trump for allowing the deals, which you claimed is causing the price of groceries to rise...

Go back under your bridge
 

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